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Why do people do this, now that you have a label on them, does this mean you can judge them according to that label?
I don't even know what that means "Unitarian" yet I believe The Sacrifice of Jesus Christ is far more reaching than we can imagine. I also believe that through His Sacrifice it will save all mankind too.
Now I suppose you will label me and judge me according to that word too?
I see this all the time, and it should not be this way.
God Bless
C
I'm not judging the guy at all. How can I when I don't even know the guy?
Also, by no means what so ever was I attempting to be derogatory. All I did was point out what his beliefs are commonly referred to doctrinally since he himself admitted that he was not familiar enough with doctrine as a whole to know what it is that he believes from a doctrinal stand point.
By referring to his doctrinal position as Unitarian, it is no different than saying that another may hold to a Baptist, Lutheran, Calvinist or a Pentecostal perspective. Again, I was not trying to be derogatory but rather, I was attempting to both clarify and simplify his beliefs that it is more recognizable to himself and to the majority.
Also, by no means what so ever was I attempting to be derogatory. All I did was point out what his beliefs are commonly referred to doctrinally since he himself admitted that he was not familiar enough with doctrine as a whole to know what it is that he believes from a doctrinal stand point.
By referring to his doctrinal position as Unitarian, it is no different than saying that another may hold to a Baptist, Lutheran, Calvinist or a Pentecostal perspective. Again, I was not trying to be derogatory but rather, I was attempting to both clarify and simplify his beliefs that it is more recognizable to himself and to the majority.
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But who are you to do that?
Don't you realize by doing so you have just grouped him in a category with which he told you he knows nothing about, same as me. Why? Just because we believe that all will be saved, that makes us unitarians?
That's like saying because I am a muslim, I can't possibly be saved by Jesus Christ, don't you see this?
Paul wrote about this too.....all it does is divide the body, please stop the division, and let's love one another as brother and sisters should, and worship The one True God and His Son whom He sent.
1Co 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
1Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
1Co 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
Back then it was Paul, Apollos, Cephas etc... today it's thousands of labels ...Stop the labeling!!!!Please
Stop the Division.
Please
I was attempting to both clarify and simplify his beliefs that it is more recognizable to himself and to the majority. End Quote:
But who are you to do that?
Don't you realize by doing so you have just grouped him in a category with which he told you he knows nothing about, same as me. Why? Just because we believe that all will be saved, that makes us unitarians?
That's like saying because I am a muslim, I can't possibly be saved by Jesus Christ, don't you see this?
Paul wrote about this too.....all it does is divide the body, please stop the division, and let's love one another as brother and sisters should, and worship The one True God and His Son whom He sent.
1Co 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
1Co 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
1Co 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
Back then it was Paul, Apollos, Cephas etc... today it's thousands of labels ...Stop the labeling!!!!Please
Stop the Division.
Please
C
No one is attempting to "label" people but rather to identify questionable doctrine. There's a huge difference. My posts are not intended to be a personal attack on anyone nor should they be interpreted as such.
I'm a firm believer that we can judge doctrine in the same manner that the Bible instructs us to judge people who attempt to preach / teach (and it does indeed instruct us to judge) and that's according to the fruit. I don't know any of you on a personal level thus it is impossible for me to judge you personally. However, if I can identify one's doctrine and research the fruit there of, it helps me better understand your perspective and explain my own.
I'm a firm believer that we can judge doctrine in the same manner that the Bible instructs us to judge people who attempt to preach / teach (and it does indeed instruct us to judge) and that's according to the fruit. I don't know any of you on a personal level thus it is impossible for me to judge you personally. However, if I can identify one's doctrine and research the fruit there of, it helps me better understand your perspective and explain my own.
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So basically you're saying that it is the fruit of the flesh that all men will be saved, and the fruit of the Spirit that all men will not be saved?
And sure you judge her personally! Doctrines don't go to hell, we do!
In whatever doctrine you teach, you see yourself saved correct?
IS SHE SAVED? This is a yes or no question (please no only god can judge but then speak for Him hiding behind verses).
And sure you judge her personally! Doctrines don't go to hell, we do!
In whatever doctrine you teach, you see yourself saved correct?
IS SHE SAVED? This is a yes or no question (please no only god can judge but then speak for Him hiding behind verses).
C
*shaking head*
How and when have I judged her? I haven't said anything about her but was merely speaking to her. Where you are getting the notion that I have somehow questioned her or anyone else's salvation is beyond me.
Anyways, when people start to jump to their own conclusions and make far fetched accusations, that's my cue to depart the conversation. All it takes is one bad apple to bring ruin to the entire bushel and I'd rather avoid contact.
How and when have I judged her? I haven't said anything about her but was merely speaking to her. Where you are getting the notion that I have somehow questioned her or anyone else's salvation is beyond me.
Anyways, when people start to jump to their own conclusions and make far fetched accusations, that's my cue to depart the conversation. All it takes is one bad apple to bring ruin to the entire bushel and I'd rather avoid contact.
*shaking head*
How and when have I judged her? I haven't said anything about her but was merely speaking to her. Where you are getting the notion that I have somehow questioned her or anyone else's salvation is beyond me.
Anyways, when people start to jump to their own conclusions and make far fetched accusations, that's my cue to depart the conversation. All it takes is one bad apple to bring ruin to the entire bushel and I'd rather avoid contact.
How and when have I judged her? I haven't said anything about her but was merely speaking to her. Where you are getting the notion that I have somehow questioned her or anyone else's salvation is beyond me.
Anyways, when people start to jump to their own conclusions and make far fetched accusations, that's my cue to depart the conversation. All it takes is one bad apple to bring ruin to the entire bushel and I'd rather avoid contact.