SOUL SLEEP DOCTRINE
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Here is an article entitled: "The State of the Dead" from EXADVENTIST Outreach - The State of the Dead
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I didnt read the full post, but you are right, there is no soul sleep .. Sleep is just a euphemism in the bible for death. Its used often in the OT, for the good and wicked.
But, it can also be a figure of speech for spiritual deception. The Greek gives good clue in the NT for which is which ; for the most part .
If you use a strong concordance , there were two greek words often used ..One means to compose oneself for sleep, or rest, voluntarily .
The other is involuntary sleep; meaning death .
In Daniel, that verse you cited, is spiritual deception or in a poor spiritually mortal state ; is what is indicated .
... Its like passage is found in 1 Corinthians 15: 52- 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
The subject matter is the same as
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
When you sleep in the dust of the earth, you're said to be spiritually dead. Since the passage is talking about the return of Christ, you have to be cognoscente of what caused the spiritually dead state ( meaning to have a mortal soul in the context ) just prior, in the 6th Trump of Satans tribulation .. Apostasy ..
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Again ; ( spiritually dead , is taught with the figurative language ; for those that sleep in the dust of the earth ) .
No one sleeps literally in the earth at death.. Christ showed us the Truth of life and death when He resurrected immediately after death. Then three days later His physical body transfiguring along with Him.
Acts 7:60 This is the Greek koimaomai = to fall asleep (unintentionally). Hence is used of death, as it is involuntary while katheudo is voluntary. Except maybe 4 places in scripture.
1 Co 11:30 Even though i think this uses the Greek for koimaomai sleep, the passage is talking in a spiritual sense.
1 Co 15:51 Again koimaomai unintentionall and is speaking of literal death. Paul simply saying, if you're living at the return of the real Christ, then you'll not die a normal death, you'll be changed . Their physical resurrection is initiated instantly at that time . This is even mentioned again in 1Th 4:17 ( we which are alive and remain unto the return of Christ ) ..
1Th 4:13 Again literal death koimaomai .
Have a merry Christmas ..
But, it can also be a figure of speech for spiritual deception. The Greek gives good clue in the NT for which is which ; for the most part .
If you use a strong concordance , there were two greek words often used ..One means to compose oneself for sleep, or rest, voluntarily .
The other is involuntary sleep; meaning death .
In Daniel, that verse you cited, is spiritual deception or in a poor spiritually mortal state ; is what is indicated .
... Its like passage is found in 1 Corinthians 15: 52- 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
The subject matter is the same as
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
When you sleep in the dust of the earth, you're said to be spiritually dead. Since the passage is talking about the return of Christ, you have to be cognoscente of what caused the spiritually dead state ( meaning to have a mortal soul in the context ) just prior, in the 6th Trump of Satans tribulation .. Apostasy ..
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Again ; ( spiritually dead , is taught with the figurative language ; for those that sleep in the dust of the earth ) .
No one sleeps literally in the earth at death.. Christ showed us the Truth of life and death when He resurrected immediately after death. Then three days later His physical body transfiguring along with Him.
Acts 7:60 This is the Greek koimaomai = to fall asleep (unintentionally). Hence is used of death, as it is involuntary while katheudo is voluntary. Except maybe 4 places in scripture.
1 Co 11:30 Even though i think this uses the Greek for koimaomai sleep, the passage is talking in a spiritual sense.
1 Co 15:51 Again koimaomai unintentionall and is speaking of literal death. Paul simply saying, if you're living at the return of the real Christ, then you'll not die a normal death, you'll be changed . Their physical resurrection is initiated instantly at that time . This is even mentioned again in 1Th 4:17 ( we which are alive and remain unto the return of Christ ) ..
1Th 4:13 Again literal death koimaomai .
Have a merry Christmas ..
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The language can be tricky if you're not totally familiar with what the Bible teaches... Thats how most of these divisions happen over simply not reading the Bible with some degree of understanding .
I could have explained this a lot better But again if you dont know what a euphemism is, or concepts of speech like that, you're going to find a lot of the bible difficult to understand .
Especially when it teaches things we're not totally familiar with, like how life after death works.
When you die you're instantly with God; on either side of a divide Christ said, if bad you've Not reached eternal life they are said to be dead or mortal ( of the state of the soul );
if good they're said to obtained eternal life.
The dead in Rev 20, again in figures of speech, much like Daniel, and 1 Cor 15:52; the dead are raised already into their resurrected body. But they have not resurrected into eternal life in rev 20.
Its really simple if you start from scratch, without people telling you stuff. because most often people are totally confused .
I could have explained this a lot better But again if you dont know what a euphemism is, or concepts of speech like that, you're going to find a lot of the bible difficult to understand .
Especially when it teaches things we're not totally familiar with, like how life after death works.
When you die you're instantly with God; on either side of a divide Christ said, if bad you've Not reached eternal life they are said to be dead or mortal ( of the state of the soul );
if good they're said to obtained eternal life.
The dead in Rev 20, again in figures of speech, much like Daniel, and 1 Cor 15:52; the dead are raised already into their resurrected body. But they have not resurrected into eternal life in rev 20.
Its really simple if you start from scratch, without people telling you stuff. because most often people are totally confused .
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I have to make a correction for the last paragraph ; on my first Post.
1Th 4:17 ( we which are alive and remain unto the return of Christ ) ..
This should have been, in reference to caught up "into the air ".
is the equivalent for the change in that passage i compared it to .
If you do a greek word study, why stop at sleep ? Do one for air
Definition that is key to the subjet : aēr : """ to breathe unconsciously, that is, respire ""
Merry Christmas again . good day..
1Th 4:17 ( we which are alive and remain unto the return of Christ ) ..
This should have been, in reference to caught up "into the air ".
is the equivalent for the change in that passage i compared it to .
If you do a greek word study, why stop at sleep ? Do one for air
Definition that is key to the subjet : aēr : """ to breathe unconsciously, that is, respire ""
Merry Christmas again . good day..
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To: shrume
Hey people that think God is the God of the dead, and claim to be a believer, id ask belief in what ? Not sure what you'd be reading ... A atheist is the only ones i hear constantly say stuff like, the dead are not alive ....
THAT IS BAD ... Because no one dies, until after the Great white Throne Judgment of God.
I'll let God decide who lives and dies.... And all we have to do is listen to God and His Christ.
But believe what you want .Im not anyone's judge.
Hey people that think God is the God of the dead, and claim to be a believer, id ask belief in what ? Not sure what you'd be reading ... A atheist is the only ones i hear constantly say stuff like, the dead are not alive ....
THAT IS BAD ... Because no one dies, until after the Great white Throne Judgment of God.
I'll let God decide who lives and dies.... And all we have to do is listen to God and His Christ.
But believe what you want .Im not anyone's judge.