space, the final frontier......the next worm can opening thread

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first of all, before i pose my next questionable topic, i just want everyone to know, that i'm not trying to stir up s*** on any of these threads i've posted. they're legitimate questions and concerns i've pondered all my life. just to let you know though that i have absolutely no doubt about the creation of the heaven and earth, mankind and all that is about life was by none other than God and i totally believe in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. i just like to hear other's points of view with the possibility of broadening my knowledge and deepening my walk with Christ.....
with that being said....on to the next subject............
what does everybody think about the possibility of life somewhere else in this infinite universe? now i'm not talking about all these UFO stories and such, but i just find it rather hard to believe that we are the ONLY life form in this entire infinite universe...i mean really....it's just unfathomable to think that we are. the life forms in question may not have human form. who knows? thats why the galaxies are so far apart so that there would be no possible means of contact. just a thought.
 
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Well, The Bible does not mention it. God created everything .We see there is a lot of diversity on earth alone. Maybe outside this solar system this is more ? . But it isn't written because I guess its not important at this time ...........


You said also : "now i'm not talking about all these UFO stories and such,"

.. But your not talking about that here, right , ...
 
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Could there be life on other planets, maybe. Would they want us contacting them or want to contact us, I don't know. Only God knows, but sadly some humans just want some communication with aliens not realizing that if they put their faith in Christ they can communicate with God through prayer even if they cannot see him or get a sound byte of a message.
 
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nathan3 said:
Well, The Bible does not mention it. God created everything .We see there is a lot of diversity on earth alone. Maybe outside this solar system this is more ? . But it isn't written because I guess its not important at this time ...........


You said also : "now i'm not talking about all these UFO stories and such,"

.. But your not talking about that here, right , ...
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right. thats what why im saying why God made the galaxies so far apart. i dont think anybody or thing could be advanced enough to travel that far through the universe, except for God himself of course. but seriously,...i dont know, ya know?
 
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If there is a Creator I would Imagine he would fill the Entire Cosmos with Different Kinds of Life.

Indeed it is well accepted by Scientists that Intelligent life Exists on other Planets.
Many of our Founding fathers were Scientists, and quite good ones at that.(Benjamin Franklin for example) Many of them Studied Space and many Believed in Life on other Planets...One founding father even recorded the first "UFO" across the Moon ( though his name slips my memory)

It is my Opinion that the Universe is Filled with many Different planets of Different sizes of Species. Earth for Example is a small Planet when Compared to others in the Universe. Who knows maybe we ourselves on this planet are a 'Cell' if you will ,in a larger Macrocosm of Life...


These other Planets in my Opinion would be similar to life on earth, Many would be Water Worlds...many with lush Vegetation and Trees. Though some could also be quite "alien" I think life is somewhat similar everywhere in the Universe. But of course also unique just as Species vary greatly just depending on which Continent you go to on Earth.

Also I think other Planets Indeed have Intelligent Beings like Humans living on them. In fact Humans might be lowly when Compared to the Other Higher beings in this Universe...The Bible even speaks of "Sons of God"...The Nephilim, which were the Giants...Also called The Rephaim, Sons of Anakim in the bible...Which obviously were not Human, but one would assume Humanoid since they were apparently able to Produce Offspring with "The daughters of men."


In fact the Story of Genesis itself may be a story of Higher beings Creating man.

Genesis does indeed say
"Let US make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness."
Seeing as the Hebrew word for "God" in that passage is ELOHIM, Which can be PLURAL in meaning...Thus the Reason Genesis uses US and OUR, Instead of Singular.


When you take this into account the Nephilim can also be called "The Sons of the GODS."
 
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trukin said:
i just like to hear other's points of view with the possibility of broadening my knowledge and deepening my walk with Christ.....
with that being said....on to the next subject............
what does everybody think about the possibility of life somewhere else in this infinite universe?
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I'll be straight with you. Subjects like the ones you bring up ...'Eve's daughters, dinosaurs, ET's and such are not the ingredients of ''broadening my knowledge and deepening my walk with Christ.....''.
They may be good food for the chickens, as chickens love worms, but not very healthy for sheep. You are free to ask what you want but those types of questions aren't what builds our faith...they are good conversation starters
 
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I'll be straight with you. Subjects like the ones you bring up ...'Eve's daughters, dinosaurs, ET's and such are not the ingredients of ''broadening my knowledge and deepening my walk with Christ.....''.
They may be good food for the chickens, as chickens love worms, but not very healthy for sheep. You are free to ask what you want but those types of questions aren't what builds our faith...they are good conversation starters
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actually, "i'll be straight with you". ANYTHING i try to learn about our lives history and possibilities strenghens and broadens my knowledge and deepens my walk with Christ. you should not judge me because of the questions i ask. i am just a very analytical person and like to broaden my knowledge on a wide range of subjects. it doesnt mean i believe in them or live by them, i just like to know if it applies to the natural order of things. that has been my struggle my whole life is that too many christians and other faiths and denominations are too close minded and dont want to hear any variation that would contradict their faith. as i said, i am a true believer and a born again christian and believe that Christ died for our sins that the only way to heaven is through him.
i believe everything in the bible is true to it's meaning and dont doubt any of it. i am not trying to change the meaning or anything else. i just believe that there is a little more to what is written. there is the fact that there IS missing books and scripture and/or scrolls.
just understand, i dont pose these questions and start threads just for "conversation starters". i just want to know what other people's opinions are on the subjects and for some it may shed light on some that may not understand the things themselves and can find out more on the subject to be able to prove or disprove of the matter.
 
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trukin...keeping it real......

I have often wondered that myself.....billions and billions of planets......

All I know is that one day we will find out......

Maybe I will be standing next to a blog of green slim......

Who knows......
 
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Insufficient Data again. If there is life, I don't believe it's crown of His creation. The is where God decided to put man and to give us His son to display His love. Thus if man exist on other planets, would Jesus have to do the same thing there? Are the sinless people? Did some God broadcasted His work here on earth to all the universe?

Your can of worms just opens up more cans of worms, I just say probably not, but how would I know for sure...
 
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My good friend at the U of I, Champaign-Urbana, Illinois is an astrophysicist. Up to and after my conversion to Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit, we would discuss just about everything. After I had been convinced of Jesus Christ, Yeshua, and drawn to Him by the Father, the subject of the universe was a topic of one of our conversations.

It seemed reasonable to me to understand that the more mankind discovers about the universe and the farther he is able to visit, be it human or mechanical visits, the larger the universe would be discovered to be.

Not only was this perception correct, very recently astrophysicists have theorized it is quite possible the universe is but one of many universes.

Now, my mind is not such as to be able to theorize such things, but my faith in our Father being Almighty is. My thinking then, 1969, was mankind will never be able to actually prove anything about the creation of all that is or its true nature because the Maker of all that is will not give the creature the satisfaction of ever finding limits to His ability. There probably is a finite limit somwhere, but our Savior will return long before man ever finds it, and all that is will pass away with a loud noise, the elements themselves will be dissolved (melted), and there will be a new Heaven and a new earth.

Believe our God. Read the Word and believe it. If you do not have this faith, ask for it, and He will surely give it to you, as long as you believe Jesus, Yeshua, amen.
 
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So, ok Driver, here is what I think.Why not, only God his self knows for sure, but I think there is. Any way, when we stand befor our Lord and Master,then he will tell us everthing, for now ,I don't think we would or could understand very much of it. Keep safe
 
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I don't see why not. Space is pretty huge. :) There's more than plenty of room for other life.

It's probably none of our business to know about that stuff right now, but my faith is not threatened in the slightest by the idea of intelligent life in outer space.
 
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It seems many folks get confused because they like it. Taking a lesson from the great woman, Mary, I am aware our Lord created "the worlds" so like Mary, I keep this knowledge to myself. Do I know exactly what that means? No! Do I need to know so badly I ignore the salvation of Jesus Christ, never!
For those who do not yet believe what I do, here is a quote from the Word that will cause your heads to continue to spin:


Heb 1:2
 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

It is very odd how many will jump at the theories of man, yet balk at the explanation from the Maker of all that is, including man........is this the pot explaining things to the Potter? Those who believe themselves capable will certainly have their opportunity.

 
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willfollowsGod said:
Could there be life on other planets, maybe. Would they want us contacting them or want to contact us, I don't know. Only God knows, but sadly some humans just want some communication with aliens not realizing that if they put their faith in Christ they can communicate with God through prayer even if they cannot see him or get a sound byte of a message.
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Why do people who believe in life on other planets just assume they are more intelligent than us? Let's just image that there is life on other planets....they would in all likelyhood be monitoring us. If they were more intelligent they would stay wayyyyyyyyy clear of us.

Alien 1..."Any sign of intelligent life on the 3rd planet?"
Alien 2..."Yes, there is life. Intelligent? Lemme get back to you on that one."
 
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trukin said:
actually, "i'll be straight with you". ANYTHING i try to learn about our lives history and possibilities strenghens and broadens my knowledge and deepens my walk with Christ. you should not judge me because of the questions i ask. i am just a very analytical person and like to broaden my knowledge on a wide range of subjects. it doesnt mean i believe in them or live by them, i just like to know if it applies to the natural order of things. that has been my struggle my whole life is that too many christians and other faiths and denominations are too close minded and dont want to hear any variation that would contradict their faith. as i said, i am a true believer and a born again christian and believe that Christ died for our sins that the only way to heaven is through him.
i believe everything in the bible is true to it's meaning and dont doubt any of it. i am not trying to change the meaning or anything else. i just believe that there is a little more to what is written. there is the fact that there IS missing books and scripture and/or scrolls.
just understand, i dont pose these questions and start threads just for "conversation starters". i just want to know what other people's opinions are on the subjects and for some it may shed light on some that may not understand the things themselves and can find out more on the subject to be able to prove or disprove of the matter.
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i believe God in His Providence has given us ALL that is needul for salvation and growth in His Word.(2Timothy 3:15-17}. Your questions had been tantalizing for 'knowledge' but of little benefit for growth. Growth comes through a deeper and deeper grasp of God's love for us at Calvary which we don't begin to scratch it's depths because often we get wrapped up in the minors. But it is your rig to hammer down in any truck stop you wish.
 
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i believe God in His Providence has given us ALL that is needul for salvation and growth in His Word.(2Timothy 3:15-17}. Your questions had been tantalizing for 'knowledge' but of little benefit for growth. Growth comes through a deeper and deeper grasp of God's love for us at Calvary which we don't begin to scratch it's depths because often we get wrapped up in the minors. But it is your rig to hammer down in any truck stop you wish.
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i'll repost this, cuz it goes back to creation and that is pretty important.
if we believe what He said about His Creation, more Glory for Him!

Galileo Was Wrong < click
 
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zone said:
i'll repost this, cuz it goes back to creation and that is pretty important.
if we believe what He said about His Creation, more Glory for Him!

Galileo Was Wrong < click
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Biblically,we know all revolves around the Son. Nah nah nah nah nah:p
 
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Here's a question for ya:

Does the Earth really rotate upon an axis at something like a 1000mph? If so, how is it that I can jump in the air and land in the same spot I stood before jumping?
 
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trukin said:
first of all, before i pose my next questionable topic, i just want everyone to know, that i'm not trying to stir up s*** on any of these threads i've posted. they're legitimate questions and concerns i've pondered all my life. just to let you know though that i have absolutely no doubt about the creation of the heaven and earth, mankind and all that is about life was by none other than God and i totally believe in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. i just like to hear other's points of view with the possibility of broadening my knowledge and deepening my walk with Christ.....
with that being said....on to the next subject............
what does everybody think about the possibility of life somewhere else in this infinite universe? now i'm not talking about all these UFO stories and such, but i just find it rather hard to believe that we are the ONLY life form in this entire infinite universe...i mean really....it's just unfathomable to think that we are. the life forms in question may not have human form. who knows? thats why the galaxies are so far apart so that there would be no possible means of contact. just a thought.
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The Universe is finite....it had a beginning and it will have an end.

It seems pretty clear from scripture that the entire purpose of physical creation is as a staging arena for the conquest of evil.

God no longer created after making mankind...and the next time that He creates will be for the New heavens and New Earth - which will be Heaven for the ones that make it there.

There is no reason to believe that there is physical life anywhere else in the universe....it was created for us.
 
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