The scriptures - that is the Apostles, yes even Jesus - preach that a disciple
can lose their salvation.
John 6:[SUP]38 [/SUP]For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.[SUP]
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And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.[SUP]40 [/SUP]And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
That is why the epistles are written to the Churches, the body of Christ, on
how to keep the faith, how to live, what doctrines are false and detrimental,
the necessity to be children of light, the exhorting to be overcomers, the
work of Satan to devour and rob disciples of their salvation.
Yes, Christians of all persuasions give up; throw the towel in; fall away;
retreat back into the world; become sinners again.
There are many warnings to all of this in the scriptures.
But in any case this is NOT the thread for a debate on OSAS.
The fact that you link salvation to Pentecostal laying on of hands for other believers to receive the Holy Spirit and tongues, is why I link this topic in teaching about tongues to be used privately in the same category as teaching Romans Catholicism.
It should be troubling to all non-tongue speakers how the tongue speakers do not get on your case for saying that. They strive against those who speak against tongues, but do little to address the heresy that has come with tongues.
It should be no wonder why non-tongue speakers do not want to have anything to do with it as tongues privately is linked to apostasy that denies Him and our resting place in Christ Jesus when we had come to & believed in Him the first time when we were saved at the initial calling of the gospel.
So keep holding the Holy Spirit and tongues out of reach of professing believers such as me, because I am not going to believe you not one bit.
1 Corinthians 1:[SUP]14 [/SUP]I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;[SUP] 15 [/SUP]Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.[SUP]16 [/SUP]And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.[SUP]17 [/SUP]For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.[SUP]18 [/SUP]For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God....[SUP]21 [/SUP]For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Since water baptism does not save, then the laying on of hands by a Pentecostal cannot save. It is believing the gospel is how any one is saved as all the epistles to the churches testify which you do not see from your doctrines derived from Acts.
Ephesians 1:[SUP]11 [/SUP]In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:[SUP] 12 [/SUP]That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.[SUP] 13 [/SUP]In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,[SUP] 14 [/SUP]Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.[SUP] 15 [/SUP]Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
I do not see any emphasis of laying on of hands for that promise of the Holy Spirit to come; it was trusting the Lord in believing in Him is how we are saved in how we had received the promise of the sanctification of the Spirit.
2 Thessalonians 2:[SUP]13 [/SUP]But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:[SUP] 14 [/SUP]Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
What you teach is not the tradition nor the gospel taught to the churches. What you teach was derived from assumptions on events that happened in the Book of Acts, and that is why it opposes the scripture in the epistles, brother. So repent.
