STUDYING GALATIANS 1 - WHAT'S THE TRUE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST

[dcontroversal]

This is exactly the bewitching enticement designed to pedal to the vain thinking of men and bring them back into bondage.

There is a way that men think is right but it is the way that leads to death

Proverbs 14: KJV
12 "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

AMEN bro and you know I agree.......for sure....!

The thing missed by the "workers for" is simple.....WE AS SINFUL MEN cannot do anything that pleases GOD.....WE AS A LIVING sacrifice allow CHRIST to work thru us...IT IS JESUS doing the works...that is why works do not save and or keep saved....

HE IS THE ONE DOING THE WORK THRU US.......and exactly why OUR WORKS do no facilitate and or keep salvation

 

[slave]

The only answer I can give is to follow the Holy Spirit and read the Bible over and over until it all comes together.

The proverbial "IT"... Smile. I agree with your comments, Context is important indeed! And yet we are not the masters of it's inference.The Holy Spirit is a result of our right relationship to God that does guide us, but we must always keep the horse before the cart. God must transform us, we are not at liberty to transform His Truths. We need to guard our hearts and minds, against the subtle nuances of Satan's backdoor attacks, not to sin us up, but to Spiritualize us (in a manner begetting an angel of light) away from the Fathers care thru masquerading the right for us to be our own gods in relationship to God. But, we will never be a God! And we will always be the Fruit of Spiritual Authority. God gifts us with Christ-likeness, thru being born again, the alternative is death.


At first you may see clearly what God's will is -- the severance of a friendship, the breaking off of a business relationship, or something else you feel is distinctly God's will for you to do. But God's Word shows me that I am never to act on the impulse of that feeling. If I did I would cause difficult situations to arise which would take years to untangle. I must wait for God's timing and He will do it without any heartache or disappointment. When it is the question of the providential will of God, I must wait for God to move.

"Lord, why can I not follow You now?" John 13:37. Peter did not wait for God. He predicted in his own mind where the test would come, and it came where he did not expect it. "I will lay down my life for Your sake." Peter's statement was honest but ignorant. "Jesus answered him, '....the rooster shall not crow 'till you have denied Me three times'" John 13:38. This was said with a deeper knowledge of Peter than Peter had of himself. He could not follow Jesus because he did not know himself or his own capabilities well enough. Natural devotion may be enough to attract us to Jesus, to make us feel His irresistible charm, but it will never make us disciples. Natural devotion will deny Jesus, always falling short of what it means to truly follow Him.

 

[slave]

All context starts and ends with the revelation of the risen Christ Himself. All scripture must be filtered through the finished work of Christ in order to get the context needed when reading all scripture and this means the Lord's words too.

Jesus told the rich young ruler to keep the commandments to have eternal life but is that how we are saved today? No, Jesus used the Law to expose the ruler's need for a Savior because he loved money and had actually broken the 1st commandment.

Here is a scripture that says that if anyone who has ever sinned against God will be blotted out of the book. This means that all of us have been blotted out of God's book for who has not ever sinned? No one.

Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.


This is a true statement but it is not the ultimate statement of truth because what Christ did on the cross and resurrection trumps this truth.

Everything in the bible is truly stated but not everything is a statement of ultimate truth.

We are as reliant on the Holy Spirit to reveal Christ in the scriptures to us as Mary was reliant on the Holy Spirit to conceive Jesus in her womb.

Jesus places the question plainly before me: Is He going to help Himself to My life, or am I taken up with my conception of what I am going to do? God is responsible for my life, and the one great keynote is reckless reliance upon Him.

 

[Grace777x70]

Jesus places the question plainly before me: Is He going to help Himself to My life, or am I taken up with my conception of what I am going to do? God is responsible for my life, and the one great keynote is reckless reliance upon Him.

Amen...without Him we can do nothing. For we have died and our life is hidden with Christ in God. Col. 3:3

 

[slave]

AMEN bro and you know I agree.......for sure....!

The thing missed by the "workers for" is simple.....WE AS SINFUL MEN cannot do anything that pleases GOD.....WE AS A LIVING sacrifice allow CHRIST to work thru us...IT IS JESUS doing the works...that is why works do not save and or keep saved....

HE IS THE ONE DOING THE WORK THRU US.......and exactly why OUR WORKS do no facilitate and or keep salvation

There is no question that God is the reason thru Jesus Christ, that makes me a Real New Creation. But you stop short in the testimony of it being "REAL." My life is not a "religious experience", all the strongholds in my old man that the world system once held over me is gone, and all that comes from my real experience of dying to the right to myself, and in being totally dependent on God - results in MY REALNESS in my transformed life. I now live not for a better me, but a new me transformed by God thru Jesus Christ thru the Holy Spirit. "Working for?"........who works for things already accomplished in Christ? But EQUALLY, who doesn't work at the things our New Master makes clear for us to do in His intentions and Purposes? Are we not obligated? Are we not actually a New Man Ourselves? Does the Word not say we are no longer our own, but boughten at a price? Now that would be horrific it God's Character was anything short of love and life, but my New Life is that of Himself, which is my way, my truth, and my life. For He is the only Way, and Truth, and Life. Our Good Works shows the fruit of our faith in Him who will event them. ""WE AS SINFUL MEN" is not, nor can ever be, the premise to my New Creation in Christ Jesus, otherwise I am not truly in Christ.

 

[slave]

AMEN bro and you know I agree.......for sure....!

The thing missed by the "workers for" is simple.....WE AS SINFUL MEN cannot do anything that pleases GOD.....WE AS A LIVING sacrifice allow CHRIST to work thru us...IT IS JESUS doing the works...that is why works do not save and or keep saved....

HE IS THE ONE DOING THE WORK THRU US.......and exactly why OUR WORKS do no facilitate and or keep salvation

Hebrews 5:12King James Version (KJV)

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

.....God does delight in His Children, because our transformation IS REAL THRU FAITH! As we remain in Him and His Words remain in us.

 

[slave]

Hebrews 5:12King James Version (KJV)

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

.....God does delight in His Children, because our transformation IS REAL THRU FAITH! As we remain in Him and His Words remain in us.

[h=1]Hebrews 5:12The Voice (VOICE)[/h]12" By this time, you ought to be teachers yourselves, yet I feel like you want me to reteach you the most basic things that God wants you to know. It’s almost like you’re a baby again, coddled at your mother’s breast, nursing, not ready for solid food."

The only way we are going to overcome the world as Jesus overcame it is by experimental sanctification. We are to live in heavenly places in Christ Jesus while on this earth and among worldly people. That is the glorious discipline of the sanctified life.

 

[so-jesus-e-deus]

Has anyone here studied Galatians?

I'm going to read the scriptures and see what the word really says about what the gospel is.

The true gospel is one in which we are led to be guided personally by Jesus Christ, instead of following empty rituals that no profit brings to the body, mind, feeling or spirit (Colossians 2: 16-23). In the true gospel, instead of seeking earthly prosperity, we seek Jesus to have space in us to manifest all that he lived when he was here in the flesh (Galatians 2:20).

• “He has saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk, even as walked. (1John 2: 6)

In the true gospel, we are free of sinning against the neighbor (1John 5.3).

• "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." (1John 4: 9)

 

[slave]

Amen...without Him we can do nothing. For we have died and our life is hidden with Christ in God. Col. 3:3

*Perhaps we are, but let's be clear that we are on the same page: Without Him ....we are very capable of doing any of a number of things, but there is one thing we cannot imitate: we cannot imitate being full of the Holy Ghost (Spirit). But when you say: "we have died..." we need to include the understand that God renews our Spirit to Himself, as well as our bodies thru obedient living (holiness). We have not, literally, died physically, but have, instead, died to the right to ourselves, and our bodies have been therefore revived thru obedience to His Lordship.

Col. 3:3 references the mark of the Holy Spirit in a man's life to mean that he has gone to his own funeral and the thought of himself never enters. Therefore, our bodies are reconciled to give voice to the commands of our new commander in Spirit, as we become re-aligned with God properly resulting in our bodies also being reconciled into purity bearing fruit unto righteousness. We are not Christ Jesus once more, for this would be impossible to be a stainless man, but we are to live the life He lived once more, empowered by He Himself as we stay hidden in Christ, able to remain pure.

 

[slave]

The true gospel is one in which we are led to be guided personally by Jesus Christ, instead of following empty rituals that no profit brings to the body, mind, feeling or spirit (Colossians 2: 16-23). In the true gospel, instead of seeking earthly prosperity, we seek Jesus to have space in us to manifest all that he lived when he was here in the flesh (Galatians 2:20).

• “He has saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk, even as walked. (1John 2: 6)

In the true gospel, we are free of sinning against the neighbor (1John 5.3).

• "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him." (1John 4: 9)

*In the True Gospel we are made innocent, and can choose not to sin against thy neighbor, if we remain in Christ. It's not automatic, but it will be the result as we enter into the process of His finishing work concluding in holiness as our relationship remains right with God, thru Jesus Christ. Amen!

 

[slave]

All context starts and ends with the revelation of the risen Christ Himself. All scripture must be filtered through the finished work of Christ in order to get the context needed when reading all scripture and this means the Lord's words too.

Jesus told the rich young ruler to keep the commandments to have eternal life but is that how we are saved today? No, Jesus used the Law to expose the ruler's need for a Savior because he loved money and had actually broken the 1st commandment.

Here is a scripture that says that if anyone who has ever sinned against God will be blotted out of the book. This means that all of us have been blotted out of God's book for who has not ever sinned? No one.

Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.


This is a true statement but it is not the ultimate statement of truth because what Christ did on the cross and resurrection trumps this truth.

Everything in the bible is truly stated but not everything is a statement of ultimate truth.

We are as reliant on the Holy Spirit to reveal Christ in the scriptures to us as Mary was reliant on the Holy Spirit to conceive Jesus in her womb.

"All context starts and ends with us being found in Christ Jesus.........period!"

 

[Adstar]

The false gospel was and still is mostly the Works salvation gospel.. Denying the effectivness of a persons faith in the atonement of Jesus and promoting the belief that one maintains their own salvation status by ceasing to sin and doing the law..

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Has anyone here studied Galatians?

I'm doing a study on it now and boy is Paul hot under the collar. He's furious in fact.

The problem that's happening is that the Galatians in chapter 1 verse 6 are quickly deserting Jesus who called them by the grace of Christ for a different gospel. Paul was amazed that they did such a thing. They began right, but were quickly being led astray.

Paul goes on to say that it's not really another gospel, but it's a distortion of the gospel of Christ. There are some who are among them that are disturbing the true faith the Galatians have in Christ.

Paul says - let those be cursed - whether an angel from heaven, any man and even Paul himself if they preach a gospel that is contrary to the true gospel. That's pretty heavy!

~ One of our study questions ~
Do you present the biblical gospel to others and what distortions of the gospel are you finding out there in the world?

I can think of a couple, but I wanted more input as I study and answer the questions being asked. I'm not out there in social settings or in public much because of health issues so I need some of your experiences with this if you don't mind sharing.

~ Another question ~
How might I be distorting the gospel? That's a personal question, but can you think of ways the gospel is being distorted by your own actions or words?

That question caught me off guard. I'm going to consider it and contemplate on it for a while. I'm going to read the scriptures and see what the word really says about what the gospel is.

All input is welcome and thanks!

I keep hearing that the muslims worship the same God we do because there is only one God. But I heard it from the mouth of my own mother the other day and I was dumbfounded. Upon a bit of questioning, she said they were worshiping the same God but just didn't know it yet. I asked how that can be considering they think Jesus was not God but as always she just got mad at me. And she was already mad at me because a few days before I said I did not agree that palm reading was a valid science.
So that's the big one I keep hearing when I'm out and about, that the muslims worship the same God we do.

As for how I distort the gospel, I do so everytime I claim to follow Him and recommend Him to others and then show by my actions that I am a liar and am not following Him. I make them think it's all just made up nonsense. Nonbelievers actually sometimes know the things Jesus said (and sometimes they say Jesus said such and such and it is not anything He said at all), but if they know some of what He said and see you not doing what He said, you are distorting the gospel and misrepresenting yourself as following Him. Why would they care to consider your recommendation if you are just like everyone else and maybe even worse? Unbelievers can more readily see our hypocrisies than we can sometimes.