Suicidal? PLEASE read

[eyesonly]

I committed suicide when i was 19 (see nde/saved testimony condensed) and i want all those who are thinking of suicide to hear me for what i speak is the truth and if you have not been down this road i ask for no religious rhetoric please.

Suicide is not a sin, it is a disease. You will not go to hell, God does not punish the sick and diseased. Suicide is the final act of mercy for individual as their souls are already dead before the act occurs.

No one can imagine or understand the torment a soul is going through to get one to the point of taking their own life.

However, i want all those who are at that point or heading down that path to hear my words, from someone who has done it and been on the other side.

Though you won't go to hell, you will likely be in the middle state between heaven and hell for what may be an eternity because your spirit will not pass on until it rectifies itself and what it has done.

If you can't come to terms now with whatever it is you are going through in this physical body and mind, you WILL NOT have the strength to do it when you are in the spirit state.

And you will feel the EXACT same as you do right now, but likely for eternity.

God may have pity on you and intercede, but do you really want to take that chance. You are talking about dealing with your feelings until you are maybe 60 or 70, vs dealing with them for eternity.

Now you know the story and the choice is yours. Personally, 70yrs in this pathetic thing we call life, is not even a blink of an eye to the eternity of love and peace that awaits us for sticking out the term of our natural lives.

Choose well and feel free to pm me is you need to.

God bless

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Sorry , I've BEEN down the path of suicide as a non believer, and believer, suicide has nothing to do with psycholoy or sickness OR BEING A DISEASE... and being medicated to 'fix ' it. Suicide is 'sin'.. it truly is.. God Has the "key's to Hades and thanatos 'death'... Jesus has these... If your HIS. He will not allow you to do that.. even if your brought to the point to where there is no Hope. the Indwelling Holy Ghost will 'keep' you from taking your life.. Do you realize who has the 'keys' to physical death itself? Christ has them NOW.. someobody committing suicide has been allowed to do that.. nobody dies physically today without Christ authorizing it or knowing about it... HE IS SOVEREIGN..... if they are God's He will keep them from doing that.. HE IS ABLE.. most today and those in 'christian circles' will try to carnalize suicide with their medical/psychological techniques so they can 'medicate' the person to fix the disease.. its a a disease alright, sin.. plain and simple... this fits in perfectly with the role of the Harlot of Rev 17 and its FORCE and pressure to mold and conform many into that coming Image of man, as they force many to be medicated (sorcery-witchcraft- works of the flesh) Galatians------> these who will follow the man of sin to perdition... indeed! sorry as a person who has experienced suicide on both sides of Salvation, 'knowing' full well the Devourer had Petitioned for my soul, creating circumstances that brought me to that lowly point, but GOD WAS GREATER .. He stood there and helped me.. indeed.. Suicide is SIN.. plain and simple..

 

[jb]

Suicide is SIN..

What "plain and simple" ****!

 

[Blain]

I know taking ones life is a sin but is it a sin that takes you straight to hell? I believe it was the catholics who say this but I don't know how true it is. I attempted suicide once but was to wimpy to go through with it. I feared of going to hell but in my tears as I was trying to kill myself I begged God to forgive me however i ended up not being to do it.

 

[tourist]

I know taking ones life is a sin but is it a sin that takes you straight to hell? I believe it was the catholics who say this but I don't know how true it is. I attempted suicide once but was to wimpy to go through with it. I feared of going to hell but in my tears as I was trying to kill myself I begged God to forgive me however i ended up not being to do it.

If you ever find yourself with thoughts like that again please call someone right away. I don't believe that it is necessarily a sin that will take you straight to hell as God understands the human condition and what pain and agony or depression that led to such an act.

 

[Jason0047]

Suicide is self murder;
And John says that no murderer has eternal life abiding within them (See 1 John 3).

 

[atwhatcost]

Sorry, but I recommend anyone reading that not believe it. There was no base to it, but personal opinion.

Does it land a person in hell? Honestly, I have no idea. I can go off with what I think, but there is no base for that either.

It's a disease? Really? So is drug addiction, sexual addiction, alcohol addiction, kleptomania, and just about every other sin out there. Just because some shrinks get paid to make people feel better about themselves, doesn't make it true.

But, who cares? It's suicide. I remember it well. I hurt beyond what I could endure and was fully aware God has put his people through much more than anyone could ever bear. I'm a coward. I couldn't imagine a very long life in that much pain, and doctors weren't treating the pain for fear it would mask the cause.

No doubt it was selfish. No doubt the only thing that kept me going was a promise to hubby that God helped me keep moment by moment.

But, would I go to hell if I offed myself? With that much pain, I wasn't entirely sure I cared.

My advice if anyone reads this who is suicidal: Don't get your comfort from the Internet. That's rather like crossing a lake on thin ice. You might make it. You probably won't.

God really does put us through more than we can handle. It's not punishment. It's to remind us we make it through any of this through his strength, not our strength. If you don't have someone to turn to (and you really do, but your mind is muddled), read When God Weeps. It's written by a woman who jumped into water head first and rose back up to the surface as a quadriplegic. Then she asked the obvious question, "Why me, God?" And then she and her friend spent the next 6 months learning the answer through the Bible. If anyone knows despair, it's her. She got answers though.

 

[Jackson123]

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[Jackson123]

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[eyesonly]

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Thank you. It is our self internal hell that souls of suicide will have to try and deal with. Unless you have actually been to that realm, you can never truly understand.

My message on this thread is simply for those who are wanting to leave this world now by their own hands. I, nor anyone else has the power to stop them.

By reading the new testament Christ can give them the wisdom and understanding they will need to stay here and tough it out.
Only Christ can do this through his words, not by others quoting this or that passage or personal opinions from those who have never
experienced the other side.

I only want them to know that i was there, and what is waiting for them, in hopes that one person might give life another chance.

God Bless

 

[eyesonly]

Sorry, but I recommend anyone reading that not believe it. There was no base to it, but personal opinion.
.

The base to it is actual personal experience and existence on the other side. You are right that it is not my personal opinion,
because it is my personal truth.
I will pray that the Lord guides you to his truth and understanding of grace and love.

God bless

 

[eyesonly]

Suicide is self murder;
And John says that no murderer has eternal life abiding within them (See 1 John 3).

That is the worlds definition of suicide sir, not God's. Suicide is a physical response to the death of the spirit. One cannot murder oneself if they are already dead.

Condemnation can not help nor save anyone,

Only love and understanding through the grace given to us from God by way of the sacrifice and resurrection of his son Christ Jesus can we help and save someone.

God bless

 

[jsr1221]

Sorry , I've BEEN down the path of suicide as a non believer, and believer, suicide has nothing to do with psycholoy or sickness OR BEING A DISEASE... and being medicated to 'fix ' it. Suicide is 'sin'.. it truly is.. God Has the "key's to Hades and thanatos 'death'... Jesus has these... If your HIS. He will not allow you to do that.. even if your brought to the point to where there is no Hope. the Indwelling Holy Ghost will 'keep' you from taking your life.. Do you realize who has the 'keys' to physical death itself? Christ has them NOW.. someobody committing suicide has been allowed to do that.. nobody dies physically today without Christ authorizing it or knowing about it... HE IS SOVEREIGN..... if they are God's He will keep them from doing that.. HE IS ABLE.. most today and those in 'christian circles' will try to carnalize suicide with their medical/psychological techniques so they can 'medicate' the person to fix the disease.. its a a disease alright, sin.. plain and simple... this fits in perfectly with the role of the Harlot of Rev 17 and its FORCE and pressure to mold and conform many into that coming Image of man, as they force many to be medicated (sorcery-witchcraft- works of the flesh) Galatians------> these who will follow the man of sin to perdition... indeed! sorry as a person who has experienced suicide on both sides of Salvation, 'knowing' full well the Devourer had Petitioned for my soul, creating circumstances that brought me to that lowly point, but GOD WAS GREATER .. He stood there and helped me.. indeed.. Suicide is SIN.. plain and simple..

Suicide and mental health (i.e., depression) go hand in hand. 9 times out of 10, someone that isn't depressed just doesn't wake up one morning and decides to kill him/herself.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Suicide and mental health (i.e., depression) go hand in hand. 9 times out of 10, someone that isn't depressed just doesn't wake up one morning and decides to kill him/herself.

this has nothing to do with Mental health. .noooooo.. believe me I have been thru the Charade of charismatic christian witchcraft-sorcery methods to 'cure depression'.... its destructive and of the dragon.. some of your largest pentecostal denominations use this method of 'witchcraft' to fix depression .. Suicide is SIN.. it truly is.. Why God allows some to take their life? Dont know you'll have to Ask Him, I know He did not allow Me to to it.. He was there .. HOLDING BACK THE DEVOURER.. indeed... Judas Iscariot he committed suicide, why did God allow him to do that? Some would even say he is Heaven today.. noooooooooo, man pulls God down to his/her level and tells Him how to act. even with Suicide... 'witchcraft-sorcery' charismatic in nature using pharmaceuticals is how they 'cure' depression today .. Saints Can be truly Depressed, but ITS the LORD WHO LIFTS and holds THEM UP.. not medication and psychiatry in the name of the LORD.. that is FALSE, DESTRUCTIVE and will eventually find itself in Gehenna fire!

 

[eyesonly]

this has nothing to do with Mental health. .noooooo.. believe me I have been thru the Charade of charismatic christian witchcraft-sorcery methods to 'cure depression'.... its destructive and of the dragon.. some of your largest pentecostal denominations use this method of 'witchcraft' to fix depression .. Suicide is SIN.. it truly is.. Why God allows some to take their life? Dont know you'll have to Ask Him, I know He did not allow Me to to it.. He was there .. HOLDING BACK THE DEVOURER.. indeed... Judas Iscariot he committed suicide, why did God allow him to do that? Some would even say he is Heaven today.. noooooooooo, man pulls God down to his/her level and tells Him how to act. even with Suicide... 'witchcraft-sorcery' charismatic in nature using pharmaceuticals is how they 'cure' depression today .. Saints Can be truly Depressed, but ITS the LORD WHO LIFTS and holds THEM UP.. not medication and psychiatry in the name of the LORD.. that is FALSE, DESTRUCTIVE and will eventually find itself in Gehenna fire!

Sounds like you are still fighting the dragon brother. We are here to listen and help. A lot of the terminology you are using causes me to worry that you have been lured into a cult group.

I, for one, was not advocating medications and/or psychiatry. I believe they do have their place for the physical aspects, but the only thing that is going to truly help the spirit is the word and grace of God as written in the new testament.

Because of my NDE, several years ago before i was saved, i was on a site dealing with mentally ill people, trying to help but mostly listening to them and in hearing their stories and subsequent treatments i received a revelation in the form of a pun or joke if you will. here it is.

What do you call a psychiatrist who actually heals people................UNEMPLOYED!

It would be something to see a psychiatrist who is also a Christian in the fullness with the word. Because there is no greater healer than Christ Jesus.

God bless

 

[jsr1221]

this has nothing to do with Mental health. .noooooo.. believe me I have been thru the Charade of charismatic christian witchcraft-sorcery methods to 'cure depression'.... its destructive and of the dragon.. some of your largest pentecostal denominations use this method of 'witchcraft' to fix depression .. Suicide is SIN.. it truly is.. Why God allows some to take their life? Dont know you'll have to Ask Him, I know He did not allow Me to to it.. He was there .. HOLDING BACK THE DEVOURER.. indeed... Judas Iscariot he committed suicide, why did God allow him to do that? Some would even say he is Heaven today.. noooooooooo, man pulls God down to his/her level and tells Him how to act. even with Suicide... 'witchcraft-sorcery' charismatic in nature using pharmaceuticals is how they 'cure' depression today .. Saints Can be truly Depressed, but ITS the LORD WHO LIFTS and holds THEM UP.. not medication and psychiatry in the name of the LORD.. that is FALSE, DESTRUCTIVE and will eventually find itself in Gehenna fire!

I'm with eyes only. I haven't seen anyone advocating use of medications. I mean we even have a natural health forum on this site. I think that says a lot about the majority here. I think it's also safe to say that we all agree the Lord is our true guide and medicine. Although I have never attempted, I've so badly wanted to commit suicide and have thought about it numerous of times. But it always remained there. Thoughts. Never have they progressed to actions. I know that is not because of me or by my strength. That is the Lord that has helped me through it.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Sounds like you are still fighting the dragon brother. We are here to listen and help. A lot of the terminology you are using causes me to worry that you have been lured into a cult group.

I, for one, was not advocating medications and/or psychiatry. I believe they do have their place for the physical aspects, but the only thing that is going to truly help the spirit is the word and grace of God as written in the new testament.

Because of my NDE, several years ago before i was saved, i was on a site dealing with mentally ill people, trying to help but mostly listening to them and in hearing their stories and subsequent treatments i received a revelation in the form of a pun or joke if you will. here it is.

What do you call a psychiatrist who actually heals people................UNEMPLOYED!

It would be something to see a psychiatrist who is also a Christian in the fullness with the word. Because there is no greater healer than Christ Jesus.

God bless

Sorry the Great Physican has already healed and Saved me... SOUNDS LIKE YOU need to be Genuinely Regenerated from Heaven, because what you teach and preach about suicide is ERROR.. been down the road of christian psychologists and pharmacists and all those associated with 'charismatic christian witchcraft' sounds like you are player in the field, and you more than likely will be absorbed and be a big player in the Harlot of Revelation 17 that will 'medicate' the masses with their behavior control medications... judging by what you teach and preach. but hey Im not surprised, for even satan himself is transformed into a minister, teacher, disciple of christ... doesnt suprise, DO YOU REALIZE THAT those who practice sorcery, witchcraft, the use of behavior medication to 'mold somebody' into a man made image will be in the Lake of Fire, Gehenna fire? yep.. they will.... and Paul addressed this same thing in Galatians, works of the flesh, witchcraft, sorcery.... yep.. you practice the works of the flesh, even if you dress it up in the Word of God. satan is purdy cunning.. been thru that with him before.. here is the RESULT of rebellion of those who practice sorcery witchcraft in the LORD...--------->

--->Blessed are they that do His Commandments, that they may have Right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the Gates into the City.

----> For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Revelation 22

where is this Without? that is Gehenna fire.. indeed... I dont have to see a psychiatrist, no.. been down that road with the tares-weeds and so called christian psychologists and all their poison they use to 'mold and conform'.. I dont need that.. He's already Healed me.. this His Word, I will tell you what you NEED though , is BE REBORN from on High, and quit teaching error mixed with pharmaceutical medication (withcraft-sorcery) in your supposed 'lord' which is an imposter! You need to REPENT of this!

 

[jsr1221]

Sorry the Great Physican has already healed and Saved me... SOUNDS LIKE YOU need to be Genuinely Regenerated from Heaven, because what you teach and preach about suicide is ERROR.. been down the road of christian psychologists and pharmacists and all those associated with 'charismatic christian witchcraft' sounds like you are player in the field, and you more than likely will be absorbed and be a big player in the Harlot of Revelation 17 that will 'medicate' the masses with their behavior control medications... judging by what you teach and preach. but hey Im not surprised, for even satan himself is transformed into a minister, teacher, disciple of christ... doesnt suprise, DO YOU REALIZE THAT those who practice sorcery, witchcraft, the use of behavior medication to 'mold somebody' into a man made image will be in the Lake of Fire, Gehenna fire? yep.. they will.... and Paul addressed this same thing in Galatians, works of the flesh, witchcraft, sorcery.... yep.. you practice the works of the flesh, even if you dress it up in the Word of God. satan is purdy cunning.. been thru that with him before.. here is the RESULT of rebellion of those who practice sorcery witchcraft in the LORD...--------->

--->Blessed are they that do His Commandments, that they may have Right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the Gates into the City.

----> For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Revelation 22

where is this Without? that is Gehenna fire.. indeed... I dont have to see a psychiatrist, no.. been down that road with the tares-weeds and so called christian psychologists and all their poison they use to 'mold and conform'.. I dont need that.. He's already Healed me.. this His Word, I will tell you what you NEED though , is BE REBORN from on High, and quit teaching error mixed with pharmaceutical medication (withcraft-sorcery) in your supposed 'lord' which is an imposter! You need to REPENT of this!

Again.... Where has anyone encouraged the use of said medications?

 

[Bowhunter2394]

and as far as your idea of me 'fighting the dragon"... no did that about 18 years ago.. sorry.. the Word tells me I have OVERCOME him.. sorry. nice try though.. your use of witchcraft sorcery in the LORD and promoting it is SIN, rebellion.. thats very easy to see..

*I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known Him that is from the Beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the Wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father. I John 2


*And they overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb, and by the Word of their Testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Revelation 12

Indeed!

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Again.... Where has anyone encouraged the use of said medications?

telling someobody to see a 'christian psychologist' will LEAD TO THE USE of pharmaceutical behavior medication.. thats the open door.. GOD HEALS THRU HIS WORD, He Sanctifies His Own thru His Word, thy Word is Truth... especially when it comes to the issues of true depression that God's People will go thru at times, but its GOD THAT HOLDS THEM UP AND CARRIES THEM THRU THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT, not poison drugs put into the individual to mold and conform, that clinical psychologists prescribe whether christian or pagan, that is witchcraft-sorcery and it will be the platform the the Whore of Revelation 17 will use to deceive the 'masses' when the open door is allowed for them do this, this Daniels 70th week.. God WILL NOT LET ONE OF HIS OWN kill himself, because if He did, He would be denying Himself, and make Himself out to be a liar.. those that commit suicide, God allows that to happen, they were never His to begin with... perfect example is Judas Iscariot, a devil, but a disciple of Jesus, the son of perdition, that is NOT HEAVEN.. but loss , damnation, Gehenna fire! very simple... the use of pharmaceutical medication PRESCRIBED by psychologists, whether christian or pagan, to mold and conform people into an image is witchcraft, the whole planet will be under that 'spell' in Daniels 70th week, its time to wake up people.... those who practice the works of the flesh, will NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN! AND sorcerers are FOUND OUTSIDE THE WALLS OF THE NEW JERUSALEM, THAT IS gehenna fire! where the devil and his angels are.!!