Suicide

[HannahA]

suicide is a sin and after you do it, you have no chance to live again to enjoy the life God has given to you, i think you know where you will end up
why do you have such thoughts?
you can share here about what has happened to you and we'll sincerely pray for you
1 Corinthians 10:13

 

[blue_ladybug]

This is not true. Only God knows why people entertain thoughts of suicide, and He judges their heart set accordingly. Whether or not suiciders go to hell or heaven, is NOT for us to speculate on.. God knows the pain of suicide, and He knows the pain that those who commit it are in. He knows who can handle the pain and who can't. He knows if they're doing it because the pain is too great, or if they're doing it simply because they feel like God ripped them off and they don't care where they end up.

suicide is a sin and after you do it, you have no chance to live again to enjoy the life God has given to you, i think you know where you will end up
why do you have such thoughts?
you can share here about what has happened to you and we'll sincerely pray for you
1 Corinthians 10:13

 

[PennEd]

suicide is a sin and after you do it, you have no chance to live again to enjoy the life God has given to you, i think you know where you will end up
why do you have such thoughts?
you can share here about what has happened to you and we'll sincerely pray for you
1 Corinthians 10:13

Suicide is certainly a sin. But so is smoking, drinking, excessive eating, and fornication, amongst many other sins.
The smoker can get cancer, the drinker liver disease and maybe death by accident, the over eater heart disease, the fornicator a killer sex disease. All of which could be classified as a slow suicide since we know those things are sin, and bad for us.
Jesus came to pay for all of our sins, except rejecting Him.
The desire to kill oneself is certainly a mental disease, just like the other sins may have both physical and mental problems associated with them.

I am in NO WAY giving an ok to commit murder upon yourself. Merely pointing out that suicide is not a guaranteed eternity absent of God.

 

[Grock89]

This is not true. Only God knows why people entertain thoughts of suicide, and He judges their heart set accordingly. Whether or not suiciders go to hell or heaven, is NOT for us to speculate on.. God knows the pain of suicide, and He knows the pain that those who commit it are in. He knows who can handle the pain and who can't. He knows if they're doing it because the pain is too great, or if they're doing it simply because they feel like God ripped them off and they don't care where they end up.

I agree with u so much blu ladybug...ive entertained such thoughts once or twice at very dark dark points of mylife..I never judge people suffering from depression to the point of suicidal thought.they have their story to tell just that some don't have the strength to tell the story or live through that story......God did create us different n some people need physical hope n help to go thru situations...but the support isn't around not everyone is strong in faith at that point in their life....hence need the strength from a second third party.....but judging them harshly is not the support needed ..because at that time the persons faith is at it's lowest his/her hope is at its lowest last thing they need is someone judging them or smthng as though there crazy....they need a renewal through physical presence which is me n u....n not just prayer ...they need real physical n emotional support...

 

[tourist]

Hi all.

Just wondering if I took my own life, would I go to hell?

Cheers

Andy

Lady Blue has offered a wise estimation in her posts.

 

[Grock89]

suicide is a sin and after you do it, you have no chance to live again to enjoy the life God has given to you, i think you know where you will end up
why do you have such thoughts?
you can share here about what has happened to you and we'll sincerely pray for you
1 Corinthians 10:13

yes but it's not a guarantee of eternal damnation....

 

[Bladerunner]

Hi all.

Just wondering if I took my own life, would I go to hell?

Cheers

Andy

Billy...let put it this way.....Jesus tells us ;

John 8:22..."Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come."

To make the picture a little sharper, There are only TWO places your eternal soul can go when your mortal Body dies and Jesus in the verse above just told you; you willnot being going with HIM if you commit SUICIDE.

It is of course your free-will and your choice.

 

[PennEd]

Billy...let put it this way.....Jesus tells us ;

John 8:22..."Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come."

To make the picture a little sharper, There are only TWO places your eternal soul can go when your mortal Body dies and Jesus in the verse above just told you; you willnot being going with HIM if you commit SUICIDE.

It is of course your free-will and your choice.

How could you have possibly come to that conclusion using that verse?

First off, IT WASNT JESUS THAT SAID THAT IT WAS THE PHARISEES. And how does that verse relate to eternal separation from God?

 

[blue_ladybug]

Umm, when Jesus said "where I go, you cannot come", He meant that when He departed this world, that the people He was talking to could not go with Him at that particular time..

Billy...let put it this way.....Jesus tells us ;

John 8:22..."Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come."

To make the picture a little sharper, There are only TWO places your eternal soul can go when your mortal Body dies and Jesus in the verse above just told you; you willnot being going with HIM if you commit SUICIDE.

It is of course your free-will and your choice.

 

[1ofthem]

I'm not God so I don't know for sure...All I can say is if you kill yourself, I don't see how you could repent of that seeing you are dead. I am not completely sure how God's mercy works in cases like that so I really can't judge with surety. In my opinion though, it is dangerous grounds. I really don't think it is something anyone should attempt to test.

I have much experience in the mental health field and have seen many folks who were suicidal and many reported that the only reason that they did not commit suicide is because they didn't want to wake up in hell. They realized they didn't want to attempt to trade bad circumstances for potentially worse circumstances so it is a deterrent to suicide in many cases.

 

[star]

Hi all.

Just wondering if I took my own life, would I go to hell?

Cheers

Please allow me to speak my piece about this subject.

1. Suicide is an act of someone not in the complete possession of their thought process; mentally or emotionally.
2. Suicide is horrible but in my book not a sin.
3. Suicide is the last resort to someone who feels there is absolutely no way out of the box they believe they are in.


How can I speak with such authority? Because my step daughter took her own life 6 years ago and left her only son and family in complete devastation; something she never would have chosen to do if she had been in her right mind.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I'm sorry, Star. God bless you..

Please allow me to speak my piece about this subject.

1. Suicide is an act of someone not in the complete possession of their thought process; mentally or emotionally.
2. Suicide is horrible but in my book not a sin.
3. Suicide is the last resort to someone who feels there is absolutely no way out of the box they believe they are in.


How can I speak with such authority? Because my step daughter took her own life 6 years ago and left her only son and family in complete devastation; something she never would have chosen to do if she had been in her right mind.

 

[star]

As well, who are we to be the authority over what is in someone's heart; saved or not saved, go to hell or not go to hell.

Yes, this subject is highly sensitive to me.

 

[star]

I'm sorry, Star. God bless you..



Thank you.

 

[MichaelOwen]

As well, who are we to be the authority over what is in someone's heart; saved or not saved, go to hell or not go to hell.

Yes, this subject is highly sensitive to me.

I'm very sorry for your loss ma'am. God bless you

 

[blue_ladybug]

I truly believe that on judgement day, God will give us one last chance to repent.. Because no matter what, we're ALL going to die with unrepented sin.. And I agree, this subject is highly sensitive to me as well..

As well, who are we to be the authority over what is in someone's heart; saved or not saved, go to hell or not go to hell.

Yes, this subject is highly sensitive to me.

 

[star]

I'm very sorry for your loss ma'am. God bless you

Thank you.

 

[mj007]

When someone is in a positive mind set, their opportunities and choices seem more infinite. But as one becomes depressed, low, negative, the opportunities and choice seem less - compressed perspective. The critical point of this is when one gets to such a compressed perspective, that they think there are only two options left, continue suffering in survival, or be dead. However this compressing and expanding of awareness is a rollercoaster. We all go up and down, but it depends how high that rollercoaster is, and how shallow the troughs, as to our ability to be level minded and positive most of the time.

Here is the answer I got, when I asked God about feeling low.

"The flesh has only the purpose of death and destruction. You are not of the body, you are of the spirit. This is why you are eternal, and your body ends in death and destruction. Is it not true? Do you really think it is over when the end comes? And how you think about this falsity, brings this perception to all things that come to you from spirit, which then becomes to you, as if from your mind and not spirit. Every thought that comes from spirit, then ends in death and destruction because you took the spirit it came from which is eternal, pure, true, and made it the source of your mind which is of your body. And as any thought you create, can easily perish, when a thought from spirit comes, and you thought you created it (and therefore can dismiss it), it too also perishes.

When the light is there in your perception, things can manifest so quickly to give reason to it. Thoughts that come from yourself, are not coming to you from spirit. All light comes from spirit. Anything which is dimmer comes from the flesh. The brighter light is a more ordered function and singularity. Therefore the dimmer light is in greater dysfunction or division. And what are the opposites of function and singularity? Death and destruction, otherwise known as decay. Death is a beginning-end perception. You can see why the thought of death has no function. It is its own device. The infinite loop. The place you do not find answers. But somehow can lead back to itself, that death is the answer. And neither is the perception of destruction the answer. Destruction is the perception of becoming less and less while something else becomes more and more, but is never death. Or of becoming more and more while something else becomes less and less, but is never death."


What I conclude from this is, to always listen to the higher thought, when it comes. More often than not, we have these thoughts that come out of nowhere, and we dismiss them. But we dismiss them, when we don't follow the light. And if you don't follow the light, it leads you into darkness. I think God is always there, speaking to us through the Perfect Spirit.​

Please allow me to speak my piece about this subject.

1. Suicide is an act of someone not in the complete possession of their thought process; mentally or emotionally.
2. Suicide is horrible but in my book not a sin.
3. Suicide is the last resort to someone who feels there is absolutely no way out of the box they believe they are in.


How can I speak with such authority? Because my step daughter took her own life 6 years ago and left her only son and family in complete devastation; something she never would have chosen to do if she had been in her right mind.

 

[star]

When someone is in a positive mind set, their opportunities and choices seem more infinite. But as one becomes depressed, low, negative, the opportunities and choice seem less - compressed perspective. The critical point of this is when one gets to such a compressed perspective, that they think there are only two options left, continue suffering in survival, or be dead. However this compressing and expanding of awareness is a rollercoaster. We all go up and down, but it depends how high that rollercoaster is, and how shallow the troughs, as to our ability to be level minded and positive most of the time.

Here is the answer I got, when I asked God about feeling low.

"The flesh has only the purpose of death and destruction. You are not of the body, you are of the spirit. This is why you are eternal, and your body ends in death and destruction. Is it not true? Do you really think it is over when the end comes? And how you think about this falsity, brings this perception to all things that come to you from spirit, which then becomes to you, as if from your mind and not spirit. Every thought that comes from spirit, then ends in death and destruction because you took the spirit it came from which is eternal, pure, true, and made it the source of your mind which is of your body. And as any thought you create, can easily perish, when a thought from spirit comes, and you thought you created it (and therefore can dismiss it), it too also perishes.

When the light is there in your perception, things can manifest so quickly to give reason to it. Thoughts that come from yourself, are not coming to you from spirit. All light comes from spirit. Anything which is dimmer comes from the flesh. The brighter light is a more ordered function and singularity. Therefore the dimmer light is in greater dysfunction or division. And what are the opposites of function and singularity? Death and destruction, otherwise known as decay. Death is a beginning-end perception. You can see why the thought of death has no function. It is its own device. The infinite loop. The place you do not find answers. But somehow can lead back to itself, that death is the answer. And neither is the perception of destruction the answer. Destruction is the perception of becoming less and less while something else becomes more and more, but is never death. Or of becoming more and more while something else becomes less and less, but is never death."


What I conclude from this is, to always listen to the higher thought, when it comes. More often than not, we have these thoughts that come out of nowhere, and we dismiss them. But we dismiss them, when we don't follow the light. And if you don't follow the light, it leads you into darkness. I think God is always there, speaking to us through the Perfect Spirit.
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Depression, bipolar, other mental diseases play IMHO a huge role in the action of suicide. If one has never experienced either of these disorders, it seems to me they probably couldn't identify nor aptly describe what mental or emotional state that person was in.

Do not misunderstand me. I do not support nor advocate suicide. People need help who are contemplating such an action. However, sometimes that help just isn't enough.

We human beings never know what is behind another's face. We do not nor should we contemplate that we ever know what someone is thinking, feeling, etc.

God is the only one who has that authority and perception. God is the only one who can judge the deeds of we humans.


God forgives our sin. Sin is sin. The consequences are differing depending upon our sins.

God is merciful, compassionate and loving. I put my assurance for my step daughter strictly in the hands of Almighty God and never in the hands of another human.

 

[froggymom]

Matthew 11:28-30 Jesus said: "Come to me all you that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Life can be very difficult at times , but Jesus offers us help through Him. He has never disappointed me. Turn to Him. Seek him with all your heart and mind. He will give you what you need and more. Only Satan would suggest that suicide is an option. Trust God for He loves you.