The Anti Christ

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Drats, I thought they were talking about the beast of Revelation....
I'm amused by those who confuse antichrist (lower case spelling) with the Beast of Revelation. I guess since John is the only NT writer to use the word antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John1:7) and he also wrote Revelation, folks think antichrist is the same thing as the Beast. If there's any correlation between the two, I'd say it would more likely be that the Antichrist is the False Prophet.
 

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I'm amused by those who confuse antichrist (lower case spelling) with the Beast of Revelation. I guess since John is the only NT writer to use the word antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John1:7) and he also wrote Revelation, folks think antichrist is the same thing as the Beast. If there's any correlation between the two, I'd say it would more likely be that the Antichrist is the False Prophet.
They are just designations for the same person. The beast is that angel of the Abyss who is released at the sounding of the 5th trumpet:

"They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer)."

That angel is the same as the following entity:

"Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. "


And is the same entity described below:

"The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction."

"The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction."

When this fallen angel, the beast, comes up out of the Abyss, he will kill the two witnesses who will be ending their 3 1/2 years of prophesying and will take control of the antichrist. This is when the antichrist controlled by the beast, will put a stop to the sacrifice and offerings and will set up that abomination. It will also be at this time when the beast controlling the antirchrist, will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God. The antichrist is also referred to by Paul as "the man of lawlessness.

To recap, the antichrist is an actual man who is the one who will establish that seven year covenant with Israel. After that angel/the beast is released from the Abyss, it is he who takes control of the antichrist and puts a stop to the offerings and sacrifices and sets up that abomination.

Also, there are two beasts mentioned in Rev.13, the first one is the antichrist and the second one is the false prophet. We can conclude this from the fact that in Rev.13 the second beast is said to perform miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down out of heaven and the false prophet is said to be the one performing those same signs and wonders in Rev.19:20. Those performing of those miracles, signs and wonders is what identifies the second beast and the false prophet as being the same individual
 
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I'm amused by those who confuse antichrist (lower case spelling) with the Beast of Revelation. I guess since John is the only NT writer to use the word antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John1:7) and he also wrote Revelation, folks think antichrist is the same thing as the Beast. If there's any correlation between the two, I'd say it would more likely be that the Antichrist is the False Prophet.
So Damien Thorne and Nicolae Carpathia are in cahoots? Game over man!
 

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Satan, the great imitator can't manifest himself fully in one

Hence the false prophet and the false christ whom Satan gives his power to sp that men are found worshipping BOTH the beast (false christ/anti christ) and the dragon who gave his power to the beast

Notice how three unclean spirits come out of the mouths of the false prophet, the beast and the dragon

The beast is none other than the anti christ whom Satan/ the dragon gave his power to
 

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I'm amused by those who confuse antichrist (lower case spelling) with the Beast of Revelation. I guess since John is the only NT writer to use the word antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John1:7) and he also wrote Revelation, folks think antichrist is the same thing as the Beast. If there's any correlation between the two, I'd say it would more likely be that the Antichrist is the False Prophet.
hello Sir: Most people do not equate the knowledge of the writer during this time period. Lets take Daniel's beast. you had the leopard, the bear, the lion and an Beast so terrible it evaded description by Daniel. The lion represented Babylonean empire and the walls of Babylonia actually have the the Lion engraved into them. The leopard represented Alexander and his empire for their swiftness in conquering and of course the Bear represented the Persian Empire. The indescribable beast represented the Roman empire. Why was it indescribable to Daniel? The Roman Empire destroyed everything in its path. What beast would or could represent them. The seven Beast represent the seven empires. Likewise the ten beast of Rev. 13 represent ten countries three of them will be conquered/destroyed by the antichrist (the Little Horn). These ten countries have not been identified and will not be until the after the tribulations start at Rev. 6 and the Church (you and me) along with the Restrainer (Holy Spirit) are not longer on this earth. Like Daniel and Revelations, Matthew and Luke, the world they saw was not the same as ours. An arrow then is a missile now. Keep in mind that Daniel was one of two prophets that were extra special to our Lord Savior.
 
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I'm amused by those who confuse antichrist (lower case spelling) with the Beast of Revelation. I guess since John is the only NT writer to use the word antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John1:7) and he also wrote Revelation, folks think antichrist is the same thing as the Beast. If there's any correlation between the two, I'd say it would more likely be that the Antichrist is the False Prophet.
The word antichrist in the Greek is two words, anti and Christos. Anti in the Greek can mean 'instead of', or 'in place of', and that's the word's essential meaning, one who comes 'instead of Christ', or 'in place of Christ'.

2 Thess 2:4
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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I'm amused by those who confuse antichrist (lower case spelling) with the Beast of Revelation. I guess since John is the only NT writer to use the word antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22, 1 John 4:3 and 2 John1:7) and he also wrote Revelation, folks think antichrist is the same thing as the Beast. If there's any correlation between the two, I'd say it would more likely be that the Antichrist is the False Prophet.

The following Scriptural facts pertaining to the FINAL world Antichrist/beast out of the sea is documented below:

here is only one Antichrist/the beast out of the sea, whom Satan will give his throne, power and great authority to, documented in Rev.13:1-2. He will be revealed [after the Church has been caught up to be with the Lord, recorded in Jn.14:2-3; 1 Thess.4:17 and 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8], as the final world dictator, before the second coming of Christ.

1. He is the "little horn" in Dan.7:8; 2. He is known as a "stern faced king, in Dan.8:23. 3. He is all three of the "he's" in Dan.9:27. 4. In 2 Thess.2:3, he is referred to as "the man of lawlessness." 5. In 2 Thess.2:8-9, he is referred to as the "lawless one." 6. In Rev.11:7; 17:3, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16 and 17, he is called the beast. 7. In Rev.13:1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, he is called the beast out of the Sea.

The beast out of the earth in Rev.13:11-17 is the False Prophet and the activity he is involved in is recorded in Rev.13
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Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name" 18 Wisdom is needed here. Let the one with understanding solve the meaning of the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666.


When Jesus returns in His second coming with His armies from heaven, He will defeat both beasts, the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Throw them in the lake of fire, and destroy the armies of the ten horns/nations allied to them, recorded in Rev.19:11-21.



The above facts pertaining to the Antichrist and False Prophet are fully endorsed by the following men of God, from every walk of Christian teaching:


1. Frank L. Gaebelein, A.M., Litt.D., Headmaster Emiritus, The Stoney Brook School; 2. William Culbertson, D.D., L.L.D., President, Moody Bible Institute; 3. Charles L. Feinberg, ThD., PhD., Dean, Talbot Theological Seminary; 4. Allan A. Mac Rae, A.M., PhD., President, Biblical School of Theology; 5. Clarence E. Mason, Jr., Th.M., D.D., Dean, Philadelphia College of Bible; 6. Alva J. Mc Clain, Th.M., D.D., President Emeritus, Grace Theological Seminary; 7. Wilbur M. Smith, D.D., Editor, Peloubet's Select Notes; 8. John F. Walvoord, A.M., Th.D., President, Dallas Theological Seminary; 9. C.I. Scofield, D.D., Editor, Scofield Bible; 10. Editorial Committee Chairman, J. E. Schuyler English, Litt.D.

Chuck Missler, Koinonia House, Charles Stanley, Baptist minister, Zola Levitt, Levitt's Ministries, Miles Weiss, Zola Levitt's Ministries, Moishe Rosen, Jew's For Jesus Org., David Bickner, Jew's For Jesus Org., Mitch Glaser, His Chosen People Minisries Dwight Pentecost, Dean at Dallas Theological Seminary, Harold Wilmington, Dean at Liberty Seminary, Arno Froese, Editor and CEO of Midnight Call Ministries, Thomas Ice, PhD., Author, Jack Van Impe, TV Ministry, Tim Le Haye, Author, Jerry Fallwell, Baptist minister, Billie Graham, TV ministry, Franklin Graham, TV ministry, Dr. Ron Carlson, Dr. Wilfred Hahn, Dave Hunt, Ed Decker and Dr. Norbert Lieth.



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So much confusion concerning this topic. The so-called Antichrist is the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition, the Lawless One as spoken of by Paul in 2 Thes 2. He is the King of the North in Dan 11. He is the Beast of the Earth of Rev 13.

The Antichrist is NOT the Beast of the Sea of Rev 13. The Beast of the Sea is a reformed Ottoman Empire-like Kingdom and is lead by a man with a blasphemous mouth. This man is the Little Horn of Dan 7. Compare the two passages. BEAST of the SEA'S mouth of Rev 13 = Dan 7's LITTLE HORN.

The so-called Antichrist claims to be above everything called God. He is more properly called the Man of Sin, the King of the North, BEAST of the EARTH.

The pompous mouth is the leader of the BEAST of the SEA.

Both of these men are alive and in power right now and I know who they both are. The Great Tribulation, which is the all out attack on Israel, will begin within two years.
 
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So much confusion concerning this topic. The so-called Antichrist is the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition, the Lawless One as spoken of by Paul in 2 Thes 2. He is the King of the North in Dan 11. He is the Beast of the Earth of Rev 13.

The Antichrist is NOT the Beast of the Sea of Rev 13. The Beast of the Sea is a reformed Ottoman Empire-like Kingdom and is lead by a man with a blasphemous mouth. This man is the Little Horn of Dan 7. Compare the two passages. BEAST of the SEA'S mouth of Rev 13 = Dan 7's LITTLE HORN.

The so-called Antichrist claims to be above everything called God. He is more properly called the Man of Sin, the King of the North, BEAST of the EARTH.

The pompous mouth is the leader of the BEAST of the SEA.

Both of these men are alive and in power right now and I know who they both are. The Great Tribulation, which is the all out attack on Israel, will begin within two years.


The only confusion about this issue is the allegorical fiction you post! The following is, as I have posted previously, the Scriptural identity of the final world dictator, the Antichrist, before the second coming of Christ, docuented below:

Who the beast out of the sea and the beast out of the earth of Rev.13, are, and where they can be found in the Bible:

1 Jn.2:18 is the only place in the Bible where the term Antichrist is found. But he is referred to by a number of different terms as recorded below, and where to find them.

There is only one Antichrist/the beast out of the sea, whom Satan will give his throne, power and great authority to, documented in Rev.13:1-2. He will be revealed [after the Church has been caught up to be with the Lord, recorded in Jn.14:2-3; 1 Thess.4:17 and 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8], as the final world dictator, before the second coming of Christ.

1. He is the "little horn" in Dan.7:8;

2.He is known as a "stern faced king, in Dan.8:23.

3. He is all three of the "he's" in Dan.9:27.

4. In 2 Thess.2:3, he is referred to as "the man of lawlessness."

5. In 2 Thess.2:8-9, he is referred to as the "lawless one."

6. In Rev.11:7; 17:3, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16 and 17, he is called the beast.

7. In Rev.13:1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, he is called the beast out of the Sea.

The beast out of the earth in Rev.13:11-17 is the False Prophet and the activity he is involved in Rev.13
:11-17:


Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name"

When Jesus returns in His second coming with His armies from heaven, He will defeat both beasts, the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Throw them in the lake of fire, and destroy the armies of the ten horns/nations allied to them, recorded in Rev.19:11-21.


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I hear alot of people saying Obama's the antichrist. How much truth to that do you think there is. I know he's a terrible person for promoting and backing the tpp but how likely is it that he'll force us all to have the mark of the beast? And if we do get the mark of the beast how do we get rid of it?
I think the person who is the closest to biblical antichrist is a pope. He is the only one that really sits in the temple of God (church) and who really killed many and many Christians.

The second guess would be Muhammad.

Revelation is the book of symbols and images, so the "mark of the beast" is the behaviour according to the will of the beast (mark on the hand) or thinking/believing according to the will of the beast (mark on the forehead).

And now you dont have to be running after Obama/Bush and chip theories and looking for antichrist every year :)
 
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old covenant v new covenant.

some one, could believe there is a god. but do not accept jesus christ as the christ or messiah.

would point, to a non believer or religious sect that do not hold to what jesus christ done.

the mark, is about buying and selling.
so what do you need to buy each week or day. (food)
who is in charge of buying and selling. (a government)
could political correctness over step the mark .

all valid points or speculation ,

there is some counties that are atheist. so would rule out a god, so with the word,anti christ ,would be a direct go at jesus christ. ie the new covenant . etc
 

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This thread has to be a joke. Obama of all people the Presidential Clark kent without the powers of Superman. If Hilary wasnt a woman she would be the latest contestant.
 
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So much confusion concerning this topic. The so-called Antichrist is the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition, the Lawless One as spoken of by Paul in 2 Thes 2. He is the King of the North in Dan 11. He is the Beast of the Earth of Rev 13.

The Antichrist is NOT the Beast of the Sea of Rev 13. The Beast of the Sea is a reformed Ottoman Empire-like Kingdom and is lead by a man with a blasphemous mouth. This man is the Little Horn of Dan 7. Compare the two passages. BEAST of the SEA'S mouth of Rev 13 = Dan 7's LITTLE HORN.

The so-called Antichrist claims to be above everything called God. He is more properly called the Man of Sin, the King of the North, BEAST of the EARTH.

The pompous mouth is the leader of the BEAST of the SEA.

Both of these men are alive and in power right now and I know who they both are. The Great Tribulation, which is the all out attack on Israel, will begin within two years.
If you know who there two men are, please tell us.