THE BIBLE AND THE NUMBER 46

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Now show something from the Bible which has authority.
 

trofimus

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Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:

Ecclesiastes 7:27
:D Please, be more serious. Try to actually read the text of the Bible

"Behold, this is what I found, says the Preacher, while adding one thing to another to find the scheme of things— which my soul has sought repeatedly, but I have not found.

One man among a thousand I found, but a woman among all these I have not found.

See, this alone I found, that God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes.
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trofimus

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This is what pattern means. Instead of playing with some search enginge, find something like this:

[video=youtube;l-6uEtTBH7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-6uEtTBH7g[/video]
 
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:D Please, be more serious. Try to actually read the text of the Bible

"Behold, this is what I found, says the Preacher, while adding one thing to another to find the scheme of things— which my soul has sought repeatedly, but I have not found.

One man among a thousand I found, but a woman among all these I have not found.

See, this alone I found, that God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes.
"
Perfectly true and you will read about them in Revelation. The woman is in chapter 17. Ecclesiastes 7 is the 666th chapter of the Bible and you find the number 666 in Revelation 13:18 which states:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
 
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“Order my steps in thy word;” Psalm 119 (7 x 17):133 (7 x 19)


“Order*” found in 66 verses of the Bible.
“Order” found in 42 (7 x 6) verses of the OT.
“order” found in 21 books (7 x 3) of the Bible. (case)
“order” found 14 (7 x 2) times in the Law (1st 5 books of the Bible)
“steps” found 35 (7 x 5) times in the OT.
“step*” all forms of the word “step” found 37 times in 37 verses of the OT.
“step” all forms of the word step found 42 (7 x 6) times in the Bible.
“thy word” found in 14 (7 x 2) books of the Bible.
“thy word” found 7 times in the NT.
“word” found in 66 verses of the Wisdom books (Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon).
“word*” found in 66 chapters of the Law (1st 5 books of the Bible)
“words” found 111 (37 x 3) times in the Wisdom books.
“word*” found 185 (37 x 5) times in the Wisdom books.
“word” 196 (7 x 7 x 4) verses of the NT.
“word*” 148 (37 x 4) chapters of the NT.
“in thy word” found exactly 7 times in the Bible.
 
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:D Please, be more serious. Try to actually read the text of the Bible

"Behold, this is what I found, says the Preacher, while adding one thing to another to find the scheme of things— which my soul has sought repeatedly, but I have not found.

One man among a thousand I found, but a woman among all these I have not found.

See, this alone I found, that God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes.
"
Perfectly true and you will read about them in Revelation. The woman is in chapter 17. Ecclesiastes 7 is the 666th chapter of the Bible and you find the number 666 in Revelation 13:18 which states:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Back up in Ecclesiastes and this is what Solomon states:

"I applied mine heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and the reason of things, and to know the wickedness of folly, even of foolishness and madness:" Ecclesiastes 7:25
 

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“Jesus then cometh, and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish likewise.” (John 21:13)


“Jesus” 609th (3 x 7 x29) occurrence in the Bible.
“Jesus” 584th (73 x 8) verse. (case)
“then” 1946th (7 x 139 x 2) occurrence in the Bible.
“then” 644th (7 x 23 x 4) verse. (case)
“then cometh” 7th occurrence. (case)
“cometh” 259th (37 x 7) occurrence in the Bible in 245 (7 x 7 x 5) verses.
“and” 21207 (3 x 7069) verse in the Bible.
“and” 18459th (3 x 7 x 3 x 293) verse in the Bible. (case)
“and” 34968th (47 x 31 x 24) occurrence in the Bible. (1st “and” case)
“and taketh” 14th (7 x 2) occurrence of this phrase in the Bible.
“bread” 343rd (7 x 7 x 7) occurrence of the this word in the Bible.
“giveth” 105th (3 x 7 x 5) verse and the 77th chapter this word is found in the Bible.
“them” 4371st (47 x 91) verse in the Bible that contains this word.
“them” 5707th (7 x 163 x 5) occurrence of this word in the Bible (case)
“fish” 35th (7 x 5) occurrence of this word in the Bible.
“fish” 74th (37 x 2) occurrence of any form of the word fish (fishes, fishers etc.) in the Bible.
“likewise” 84th (7 x 3 x 4) occurrence of this word in the Bible. (case)

LOL! Did you ever try to find this kind of thing with the NIV, or ESV, . . . ? I doubt it - but I bet I could compile a good list too from those versions . . . Or what about trying the New World Translation?

I will stick to the meaning of the Biblical words given in the context of the Holy Spirit speaking to the true believers in Christ.
 

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When King Josiah was in his eight year as king, he sought the Lord.
There were 46 years remaining until king Zedekiah was taken away to Babylon.
This ends the book of 2 Chronicles and starts the 70 years of exile to Babylon/Persia.
The eighth year of Josiah was 3556.5 years since Adam's creation.
70 years exile plus 483 years when the Messiah is cut off is 553 years.
This was 4109 years since Adam's creation.
What happened in year 4600 since Adam's creation (523 AD)?
The Christian Creeds were written and the Roman empire had fallen.
The Dark Ages had started.
 
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LOL! Did you ever try to find this kind of thing with the NIV, or ESV, . . . ? I doubt it - but I bet I could compile a good list too from those versions . . . Or what about trying the New World Translation?

I will stick to the meaning of the Biblical words given in the context of the Holy Spirit speaking to the true believers in Christ.
I bet you can't
 

Chester

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“Order my steps in thy word;” Psalm 119 (7 x 17):133 (7 x 19)


“Order*” found in 66 verses of the Bible.
“Order” found in 42 (7 x 6) verses of the OT.
“order” found in 21 books (7 x 3) of the Bible. (case)
“order” found 14 (7 x 2) times in the Law (1st 5 books of the Bible)
“steps” found 35 (7 x 5) times in the OT.
“step*” all forms of the word “step” found 37 times in 37 verses of the OT.
“step” all forms of the word step found 42 (7 x 6) times in the Bible.
“thy word” found in 14 (7 x 2) books of the Bible.
“thy word” found 7 times in the NT.
“word” found in 66 verses of the Wisdom books (Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon).
“word*” found in 66 chapters of the Law (1st 5 books of the Bible)
“words” found 111 (37 x 3) times in the Wisdom books.
“word*” found 185 (37 x 5) times in the Wisdom books.
“word” 196 (7 x 7 x 4) verses of the NT.
“word*” 148 (37 x 4) chapters of the NT.
“in thy word” found exactly 7 times in the Bible.
I notice you have no numbers for:

"my steps"
"order my steps"
"steps in thy word"
"steps in"
"in"
"thy"
"in thy"
and a few others, etc.

Why not?

And I also noticed that "words" is found in your list, but is not in the verse (Psalm 119:133) at all.
 
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[FONT=&quot]Then went he down, and dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God: and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was clean. (2 Kings 5:14)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“Then” 434th (7 x 62) occurrence of this word in the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Then” found 1022 (7 x 73 x 2) times in 1011 (337 x 2) verses of the OT. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Then” found in 42 (7 x 6) verses in 2 Kings (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Then” found 56 (7 x 8) times in 2 Kings[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“then went” 7th book of the Bible that contains this phrase.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“went” 728th (7 x 104) occurrence of this word in the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“went” 658th (7 x 94) verse in the Bible containing this word. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“went he” 7th occurrence, 7th verse, and 7th chapter of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“went he” found in 7 books of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“down” 14th (7 x 2) verse in 2 Kings containing this word.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“down” found 56 (7 x 8) times in 2 Kings.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“down” 153rd chapter and 12th book of the Bible that contains this word.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“dipped” found exactly 7 times in 7 verses and 7 chapters of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“dipped” 14th (7 x 2) occurrence of the any form of the word “dip.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“himself” 147th (7 x 7 x 3) verse containing this word in the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“himself” found in 301 (7 x 43) verses of the OT. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“seven” 238th (7 x 34) occurrence in the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“seven*” 350th (7 x 50) occurrence of any form of the word “seven” in the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“seven” found in 7 chapters of 2 Kings.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“seven” found 315 in (7 x 45) verses and 28 (7 x 4) books of the OT. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“seven” 448 (7 x 64) times in 378 (7 x 54) verses and 35 (7 x 5) books of the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“seven times” occurs 35 (7 x 5) times in the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“time*” found in 511 (7 x 73) verses of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“time*” found in 420 (7 x 60) chapters of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“times in” found 7 times in 7 verses in 7 chapters of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“times in” found in 7 books of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Jordan” found 182 (7 x 26) times in the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Jordan” found in 21 (7 x 3) books of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according” 343rd (7 x 7 x 7) occurrence of this word in the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according” occurs 37 times in 35 (7 x 5) verses of 2 Kings[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according” occurs 666 (37 x 18) times in the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according” occurs in 373 chapters of the Bible (case).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according*” 763 (7 x 109) times in 693 (77 x 9) verses of the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according*” 581 (7 x 83) times in the OT. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according to” 307th occurrence of this phrase in the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according to” found in 651 (7 x 93) verses of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according to” found in 350 (7 x 50) chapters of the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according to” found 588 (7 x 7 x 12) times in 280 (7 x 40) chapters of the OT. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“according to the” found 314 (157 x 2) times in 294 (7 x 7 x 6) verses of the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“the saying” found in 21 (7 x 3) chapters of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“the saying” found in 14 (7 x 2) chapters of the OT. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“saying” found 63 (7 x 9) times in 2 Kings.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“saying” found in 1407 (7 x 201) verses of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“say*” found in 77 verses and 21 (7 x 3) chapters in 2 Kings.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“of the man” found 14 (7 x 2) times in 14 verses of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“the man” found 315 (7 X 45) times in 42 (7 x 6) books of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“the man” 245 (7 x 7 x 5) verses of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“man of God” 42nd (7 x 6) verse containing this phrase in the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“man of God” found 77 times in the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“man of God” found in 70 verses of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“of God” found in 924 (77 x 12) verses of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“of God” found in 357 (7 x 51) verses of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“God” found in 70 verses in 2 Kings (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“his flesh” 28th (7 x 4) occurrence and the 14th (7 x 2) chapter of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]”his flesh” 42 (7 x 6) times in 28 (7 x 4) books of the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“his flesh” found in 21 (7 x 3) chapters and 7 books of the OT[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“came” 37th occurrence of word in 2 Kings[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“came” 2093 (7 x 299) times in 1918 (7 x 274) verses of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“came” 37 books of the OT. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“came again” 28 (7 x 4) times in 28 verses and 28 chapters in 14 (7 x 2) books of the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“again” 219th (73 x 3) verse containing this wording the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“again” 222nd (37 x 6) occurrence of this word in the Bible. (case)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“like” found in 581 (7x 83) verses the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“like” found in 481 (37 x 13) verses and 35 (7 x 5) books of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“unto” found in 5292 (7 x 7 x 108) verses of the OT.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“unto” 3942nd (73 x 54) occurrence of this word in the Bible.

I haven't finished this on yet:

"the flesh of a little child, and he was clean."

Maybe I will finish it this weekend but I can assure you the pastor will continue into the rest of the verse. Why did Naaman dip 7 times in the Jordan?
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I notice you have no numbers for:

"my steps"
"order my steps"
"steps in thy word"
"steps in"
"in"
"thy"
"in thy"
and a few others, etc.

Why not?

And I also noticed that "words" is found in your list, but is not in the verse (Psalm 119:133) at all.
Gods word consists of words first off. "my steps" 10 times (10 commandments) and the 7th occurrence is in Psalm 56 (8 x 7).

"order my steps"; "steps in"; "steps in thy word" only found once and that is in Psalm 119.

Words such as "thy" "in" etc are found thousands of times so when they occur in the heart of a large book such as Psalms they are difficult to count. The list I posted is not exhaustive by any means.

"in thy" 7 x 24 chapters of the Bible
 
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reneweddaybyday said:
I think if you were really serious about the use of the word "conceived", you would look at each use of the Hebrew and Greek words to determine whether the translators were correct in translating the words as "conceived".

Once you narrow down the true use of the word "conceived", you will have the correct number of times the word is actually used.
Don't forget that Adam speaks in verse 23 and 23 chromosome pairs = 46 chromosomes.
While you may be fascinated in this fallacy, it is of absolutely no interest to me.




James37 said:
Furthermore all forms of the words "cleave" 46 times, multiply 46 times, vessel 46 times, "travail*" 46 verses so it is not like it is just one word or phrase.
I thought you were interested in the word "conceived".

Have you looked up the uses of the Hebrew and Greek words to determine how many times the word "conceived" is actually used in Scripture ... whether it is 46 (or some other number in which you will be fascinated)?
 

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Not trying to be rude here, but what is the point? I am sure you could do the same with any number in the Bible.
What makes you so sure?
Google "the significance of the number 1 through 60 in the bible." There are people finding patterns and significances in the bible for all of them. I stopped at 60, but I'm sure it continues.
 

Chester

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LOL! At least you have some spunk and humor!

Oh, I wish I had the time to do it -- but if I had the time, would it be worth my effort!?? LOL!

Hey, is there anybody out there who has the time to make some lists from the NIV or ESV to match the lists this guy is making from the KJV? Please, please, please, somebody give it a try! Maybe we can prove something . . . :p
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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When King Josiah was in his eight year as king, he sought the Lord.
There were 46 years remaining until king Zedekiah was taken away to Babylon.
This ends the book of 2 Chronicles and starts the 70 years of exile to Babylon/Persia.
The eighth year of Josiah was 3556.5 years since Adam's creation.
70 years exile plus 483 years when the Messiah is cut off is 553 years.
This was 4109 years since Adam's creation.
What happened in year 4600 since Adam's creation (523 AD)?
The Christian Creeds were written and the Roman empire had fallen.
The Dark Ages had started.
The term "Dark Ages" is a misnomer and not very widely used among historians anymore. The 'Early Middle Ages' were not so very dark.
 
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LOL! At least you have some spunk and humor!

Oh, I wish I had the time to do it -- but if I had the time, would it be worth my effort!?? LOL!

Hey, is there anybody out there who has the time to make some lists from the NIV or ESV to match the lists this guy is making from the KJV? Please, please, please, somebody give it a try! Maybe we can prove something . . . :p
If you started to do it for yourself you would realize it is true. I use the King James Pure Bible Search software. I have only posted a fraction of the evidence because I haven't typed it up yet. Wait until i post Revelation 22:2 (37 x 6).
 
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As far as modern versions go I will give them a head start. "the gospel" is found 74 (37 x 2) times in the NIV.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Similar number games are played with The unholy Qu'ran



"Like the Quran itself, the Quran's mathematical coding ranges from the very simple, to the very complex. The Simple Facts are those observations that can be ascertained without using any tools. The complex facts require the assistance of a calculator or a computer. The following facts do not require any tools to be verified:"


  1. The first verse (1:1),known as "Basmalah," consists of 19 letters (Basmalah: image with letters marked).
  2. The Quran consists of 114 suras, which is ..............19 x 6.
  3. The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or ....19 x 334.
    [6234 numbered verses & 112 un-numbered verses (Basmalahs) 6234+112 = 6346] Note that 6+3+4+6 =.......19.
  4. The Basmalah occurs 114 times, despite its conspicuous absence from Sura 9 (it occurs twice in Sura 27) & 114= 19x6.
  5. From the missing Basmalah of Sura 9 to the extra Basmalah of Sura 27, there are precisely ...............19 suras.
  6. It follows that the total of the sura numbers from 9 to 27 (9+10+11+12+...+26+27) is 342, or .............19 x 18.
  7. This total (342) also equals the number of words between the two Basmalahs of Sura 27, and 342 = ........19 x 18.
  8. The famous first revelation (96:1-5) consists of .......19 words.
  9. This 19-worded first revelation consists of 76 letters .19 x 4.
  10. Sura 96, first in the chronological sequence, consists of .... 19 verses.
  11. This first chronological sura is placed atop the last ..19 suras.
  12. Sura 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, and 304 equals .19 x 16.
  13. The last revelation (Sura 110) consists of ............19 words.
  14. The first verse of the last revelation (110:1) consists of ........ 19 letters.
  15. 14 different Arabic letters, form 14 different sets of "Quranic Initials" (such as A.L.M. of 2:1), and prefix 29 suras. These numbers add up to 14+14+29 = 57 = ......19 x 3.
  16. The total of the 29 sura numbers where the Quranic Initials occur is 2+3+7+...+50+68 = 822, and 822+14 (14 sets of initials) equals 836, or ................. 19 x 44.
  17. Between the first initialed sura (Sura 2) and the last initialed sura (Sura 68) there are 38 un-initialed suras 19 x 2.
  18. Between the first and last initialed sura there are ....19 sets of alternating "initialed" and "un-initialed" suras.
  19. The Quran mentions 30 different numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50000, & 100000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19x8534.
 

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PERFECT PRESERVATION

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"The Almighty Author of the Qur’an has decreed in Sura 15, Verse 9, that the Holy Qur’an, God’s final message to the world, shall be perfectly preserved until the end of the world.

Today, with the discovery of the Qur’an’s miraculous mathematical composition (see THE COMPUTER SPEAKS: GOD’S MESSAGE TO THE WORLD, published by this Masjid), we KNOW that every single letter in the Qur’an has been perfectly preserved. Not only does the Qur’an’s supernatural mathematical system prove that the Qur’an has been perfectly preserved, it also guarantees the Qur’an’s preservation forever.
What does perfect preservation of the Qur’an exactly mean? Just as the word “preservation” implies, this means that every single letter in the Qur’an has been divinely protected; not a single letter has been lost."

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