THE BIBLE AND THE NUMBER 46

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graceNpeace

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God used men to write the "original manuscripts" so what is your point!
I will repeat it: "And so, any counting strategy based on occurrences in verses or chapters are meaningless since they are man-made additions many centuries after the fact."

In your original post:
"substance” found in 49 (7 x 7) verses and 46 chapters of the Bible."
and again
"made” 1406 (37 x 38) times in 1311 (23 x 57) verses) and 611 (47 x 13) chapters of the Bible."
and again
"was made” 23 books of the Bible and 23 chapters of the NT."
and again
"substance” found in 49 (7 x 7) verses and 46 chapters of the Bible."
and again
"book” 42 (7 x 6) times in 37 verses and 21 (7 x 3) chapters of NT."

I repeat again, the Bible does NOT have chapter and verses, and so to base a counting strategy based on occurrences per verse or occurrences per chapter are utterly meaningless....

My guess is that the more we know about what you are actually doing the more obviously absurd it will become.
 

prove-all

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#62
2 or 3 places in the Bible can be considered as a witness.
That is why the Bible has an Old and New Testament.

-one place we are told to [Count the cost], to see if we have supply's to cover the whole project.
this verse does not say to go count the other numbers in the bible.


-second place we are told to count, the number to identify the beast.
this verse does not say to go count the other numbers in the bible.


-one other place They where told to count days to pentacost.
this verse does not say to go count the other numbers in the bible.


Not one of these is a witness or command to count other numbers in the bible.
 
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I will repeat it: "And so, any counting strategy based on occurrences in verses or chapters are meaningless since they are man-made additions many centuries after the fact."

In your original post:
"substance” found in 49 (7 x 7) verses and 46 chapters of the Bible."
and again
"made” 1406 (37 x 38) times in 1311 (23 x 57) verses) and 611 (47 x 13) chapters of the Bible."
and again
"was made” 23 books of the Bible and 23 chapters of the NT."
and again
"substance” found in 49 (7 x 7) verses and 46 chapters of the Bible."
and again
"book” 42 (7 x 6) times in 37 verses and 21 (7 x 3) chapters of NT."

I repeat again, the Bible does NOT have chapter and verses, and so to base a counting strategy based on occurrences per verse or occurrences per chapter are utterly meaningless....

My guess is that the more we know about what you are actually doing the more obviously absurd it will become.
Because men cared enough about the word of God to add chapter and verses. It was by the will of God.
 

SovereignGrace

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not sure how this even pertain to counting and devideing and multyply numbers
2 or 3. Get it? The #’s 2 and 3 smushed together make the # 23. Then 23 x 2 = 46! Get it now?

#meneither
 
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conceived” 46 times in the Bible

Don't forget about this coincidence too!
The English word "conceived" appears in Scripture 46 times.

However, there are various words in Hebrew and Greek which are translated as "conceived" (as well as other words).

Here is a list of the Strong's number for the Hebrew and Greek words (translated as English "conceived") and the number of times the Hebrew/Greek words are used in Scripture:

43 times = H2029
10 times = H3179
213 times = H3254
56 times = H2232
124 times = H2803

97 times = G1080
16 times = G4815
96 times = G5087
4 times = G2845


So in the Hebrew and Greek, the word "conceived" is used in Scripture a total of 659 times ... just not as the English word "conceived".

 
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-one place we are told to [Count the cost], to see if we have supply's to cover the whole project.
this verse does not say to go count the other numbers in the bible.


-second place we are told to count, the number to identify the beast.
this verse does not say to go count the other numbers in the bible.


-one other place They where told to count days to pentacost.
this verse does not say to go count the other numbers in the bible.


Not one of these is a witness or command to count other numbers in the bible.
[FONT=&quot]"Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:" (Ecclesiastes 7:27) 666th chapter of the Bible![/FONT]
 

SovereignGrace

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I will repeat it: "And so, any counting strategy based on occurrences in verses or chapters are meaningless since they are man-made additions many centuries after the fact."

In your original post:
"substance” found in 49 (7 x 7) verses and 46 chapters of the Bible."
and again
"made” 1406 (37 x 38) times in 1311 (23 x 57) verses) and 611 (47 x 13) chapters of the Bible."
and again
"was made” 23 books of the Bible and 23 chapters of the NT."
and again
"substance” found in 49 (7 x 7) verses and 46 chapters of the Bible."
and again
"book” 42 (7 x 6) times in 37 verses and 21 (7 x 3) chapters of NT."

I repeat again, the Bible does NOT have chapter and verses, and so to base a counting strategy based on occurrences per verse or occurrences per chapter are utterly meaningless....

My guess is that the more we know about what you are actually doing the more obviously absurd it will become.
One has to know calculus to keep up with that. :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :confused:
 
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#68
The English word "conceived" appears in Scripture 46 times.

However, there are various words in Hebrew and Greek which are translated as "conceived" (as well as other words).

Here is a list of the Strong's number for the Hebrew and Greek words (translated as English "conceived") and the number of times the Hebrew/Greek words are used in Scripture:

43 times = H2029
10 times = H3179
213 times = H3254
56 times = H2232
124 times = H2803

97 times = G1080
16 times = G4815
96 times = G5087
4 times = G2845


So in the Hebrew and Greek, the word "conceived" is used in Scripture a total of 659 times ... just not as the English word "conceived".

I don't read Greek and Hebrew so it makes no difference to me. I know what is in my Bible! Think about what you said!

The English word "conceived" appears in Scripture 46 times.
 

MarcR

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The English language has the words to, too, and two.

Phonetically I can say there are three 'tues' in the English Language; but I challenge anyone to write that concept in good English
 
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A highly dogmatic statement with exactly zero proof...
What Bible verse have you quoted to refute 1 thing on this thread? As a matter of fact you have quoted NONE!

"let God be true, but every man a liar" Romans (3:4)
 

graceNpeace

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I don't read Greek and Hebrew so it makes no difference to me. I know what is in my Bible! Think about what you said!
Exactly.
So, somehow the English words are more important....
Your credibility continues to melt away to insignificance.
 

Magenta

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#74
2 or 3 places in the Bible can be considered as a witness. That is why the Bible has an Old and New Testament.
That is not why. A testament is a covenant. The older testament has numerous covenants in it, all pointing forward to the covenant God makes through the blood of Christ, which was foretold from Genesis 3.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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#75
The English language has the words to, too, and two.

Phonetically I can say there are three 'tues' in the English Language; but I challenge anyone to write that concept in good English
Never the twain shall meet
 

graceNpeace

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#76
What Bible verse have you quoted to refute 1 thing on this thread? As a matter of fact you have quoted NONE!

"let God be true, but every man a liar" Romans (3:4)
Quite, and right now you are right up there at the head of that queue!

The reason I have not quoted any Scripture is that you are appealing to extra-Biblical sources as your inspiration - such as verse and chapter divisions.
 
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#77
That is not why. A testament is a covenant. The older testament has numerous covenants in it, all pointing forward to the covenant God makes through the blood of Christ, which was foretold from Genesis 3.
[FONT=&quot]“For had ye believed [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Moses[/FONT][FONT=&quot], ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.” (John 5:46)

There are two witnesses right here in this verse. Moses (OT) and Jesus (NT). Did you know your DNA has two sides and they are connected by 4 things?[/FONT]
 
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#78
Quite, and right now you are right up there at the head of that queue!

The reason I have not quoted any Scripture is that you are appealing to extra-Biblical sources as your inspiration - such as verse and chapter divisions.
There are chapter and verse divisions in my Bible. I don't know what bible you are reading! I didn't make them up or put them there!
 

graceNpeace

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There are chapter and verse divisions in my Bible. I don't know what bible you are reading! I didn't make them up or put them there!
There are chapter and verse divisions in my bible too.
I have never implied that you made them up or put them there - their appearance in Bibles predates your birth by a few centuries.
The point is that someone actually did make them up...
They could easily have decided on different divisions - and probably did.
You just don't seem to understand that you are building your house upon the sand...
Wait!
Could I just have quoted out of the Sermon on the Mount...
Wow!
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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#80
There are chapter and verse divisions in my Bible. I don't know what bible you are reading! I didn't make them up or put them there!
All English Bibles have the Chapter and verse divisions. There is nothing unique about the KJV regarding that. But they are a modern addition. They are not the same in the Greek & Hebrew texts. Others have explained this to you already. "Modern" includes the KJV.