THE BIBLE AND THE NUMBER 46

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There is no "secret" code. God tells us clearly the way to salvation, through Jesus Christ. I think that if God wishes to speak to folks through numbers that's awesome, but not "seeing" those numbers don't mean no thang!!!
If we know about it I guess it is not secret anymore!

"Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret." (Daniel 2:47)
 
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Posted by James37


multiply = 46 times in the Bible

It proves that 23 chromosomes from the mom and 23 from the dad combine to make 46. The Bible is scientifically up to date. I cannot understand why this would bother christians.
Hi James.

I would suggest God has not left us as orphans. He desires to gives us what he calls ears to hear what His Spirit is saying . He lovingly commands us enabling us to study and seek His approval as what we call a person relationship . He therefore has given us certain instruction how we can hear Him not seen.

From what portion of scripture did you receive the prescription of mathematical equations as a source of faith for hearing God that you are offering in respect to the rudiments of this world (DNA) in regard to these earthen bodies of death? (46 chromosomes )

It would seem your idea is not a parable or a proverb . What does 23 chromosomes from the mom and 23 from the dad combine to make 46 have to do with the gospel of Christ ? This is seeing DNA as corrupted rudiments of this world (flesh and blood) could never enter the new heavens and earth. We live in a body of death or 46 chromosomes. How does that apply to the gospel? I would suggest He speaks in parables and number words can signify the unseen faith principle but in mathematical equations, where did you find the kind of prescription for rightly dividing so that we can seek his approval? I would be care on how we think we are hearing God.

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

rudiments of the world,(46 chromosomes)

That sounds like the gospel for dummies like myself who need grace because they have no math skills ; the intellectual gospel, after the wisdom of this world. Both those who require a sign before they will believe and those who say they is no God in their heart, both stumble over the same cross

For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 1Co 1:22

Greeks seek after wisdom.( Not God’s wisdom) philosophies of men
 

graceNpeace

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I asked a question about something the Bible may say and your response is irrelevant! What is irrelevant is our opinions! This may come as a surprise to you but who do you think created the languages in the first place? (Genesis 11)
You cannot claim that in the English of the KJV that God has revealed something not present in the manuscripts used to translate it...
Again your reference to Gen 11 has no context.
 
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You cannot claim that in the English of the KJV that God has revealed something not present in the manuscripts used to translate it...
Again your reference to Gen 11 has no context.
Again, your opinion carries no weight.
 

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I believe that leading someone into a personal relationship with God is not predicated on our understanding of numbers, only a full understanding of our depravity and our need for a Savior.
 

graceNpeace

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Again, your opinion carries no weight.
No KJV translator ever claimed divine inspiration to add new revelation to the KJV!
You are the one on very shaky ground!

You have been unable to deal with any of the points that I have raised save for diversionary tactics...
 
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Hi James.

What does 23 chromosomes from the mom and 23 from the dad combine to make 46 have to do with the gospel of Christ?
Genetics and reproduction are part of the creation of God. In fact man is the pinnacle of that creation and the word of God states:


For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:” (Romans 1:20)

Did God make you? Do you have 46 chromosomes and 37 genes in your mitochondrial DNA?
 

graceNpeace

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I believe that leading someone into a personal relationship with God is not predicated on our understanding of numbers, only a full understanding of our depravity and our need for a Saviour.
Indeed!
Preach it, brother...
 
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No KJV translator ever claimed divine inspiration to add new revelation to the KJV!
You are the one on very shaky ground!

You have been unable to deal with any of the points that I have raised save for diversionary tactics...
And I am sure Cyrus knew that he was anointed and doing God's will! (Isaiah 45:1)

How about Josephs brothers in Genesis 37? Were they aware that God was going to use them?
 

graceNpeace

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And I am sure Cyrus knew that he was anointed and doing God's will! (Isaiah 45:1)

How about Josephs brothers in Genesis 37? Were they aware that God was going to use them?
More diversion!!!!
No relevance to your claims...
 
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I believe that leading someone into a personal relationship with God is not predicated on our understanding of numbers, only a full understanding of our depravity and our need for a Savior.
I agree and I never said anything contrary.
 
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More diversion!!!!
No relevance to your claims...
Of course it is relevant. God uses people to accomplish His will and execute His judgments throughout the Bible. What they claim or don't claim is irrelevant.
 

graceNpeace

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Of course it is relevant. God uses people to accomplish His will and execute His judgments throughout the Bible. What they claim or don't claim is irrelevant.
So, YOUR position is that God inspired the translation of the KJV and added things to it not found in other translation then?
 

Johnny_B

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Not trying to be rude here, but what is the point? I am sure you could do the same with any number in the Bible.
 
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So, YOUR position is that God inspired the translation of the KJV and added things to it not found in other translation then?
Yes and before that the chapter and verse numbers. Here is a question for you. How did God preserve His word if at all?
 

graceNpeace

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Yes and before that the chapter and verse numbers. Here is a question for you. How did God preserve His word if at all?
And what about other translations?
Obviously there are differences and your counting stuff won't work with those translations.
 

graceNpeace

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I asked you a question!

Quid pro quo
Manuscripts were copied, yes attention to detail required, but no inspiration and wilful changing of the manuscript. The idea was a copy, not a new updated edition!