The Bible is not the Word

[SovereignGrace]

why can't you just quote the v connecting the two then? I submit that it is because Word cannot be written down and remain Word, it becomes words, even if they might pass the test to be considered Rhema, and even then if you lack context or cultural understanding, Rhema can be misconstrued, whereas this is not possible with Word. Word requires breath. Words can be translated, interpreted, etc



, or why is "Easter" in your Bible? or some Bibles, anyway. Why would

In the beginning was the Bible, and the Bible was with God, and the Bible was God

be incorrect, in that case?

Mods, why is his attacking the word of God allowed to be posted on here? Please stop this garbage.

 

[bbyrd009]

"the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures"
R 1:2

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I agree that Scriptures are not to be worshipped, they are only a message. But they are clearly holy.

We might note this same issue when we try to define "Gospel," which is of course Word, even though It is not defined in the Book, right; but that's a diff subject.

so yes, the Gospel was promised in the Book, but the Gospel is not in the Book, either!

 

[preacher4truth]

Here is a link to his beliefs that he's offered here:

https://www.wikihow.com/Recognize-the-Fallacy-of-Death-Centric-Western-Christian-Models

Here is another exposing him here on CC:

http://christianchat.com/christian-...hristianity-soooooo-boring-3.html#post3379126

Oh, and when you edit the article in the first link, you find this in the code in the midst of the blog: [[User:Bbyrd009/sandbox| so, it's the same heretic we have here on CC.

 

[Rokurac]

Well lookie there, what do we have ourselves here?

A HERETIC. If you dont wish to believe in the revelation that the Bible states is God-breathed then you got no standard by which to discern doctrine.
We have seen where "Let the spirit discern" has gotten certain churches and movements. And its away from the original revelation recorded in the Bible

 

[Zi]

And what's your point? You don't understand so you're mad?

then where is your verse for that? the Bible is not holy either, sorry. Or rather, if you can find "Holy Book, Holy Law," or "Holy Scriptures" in there anywhere, i will stand corrected.

We might note this same issue when we try to define "Gospel," which is of course Word, even though It is not defined in the Book, right; but that's a diff subject.

so yes, the Gospel was promised in the Book, but the Gospel is not in the Book, either!

 

[SovereignGrace]

And what's your point? You don't understand so you're mad?

His only point is the cap on his head whilst he's setting in the corner.

 

[preacher4truth]

Mods, why is his attacking the word of God allowed to be posted on here? Please stop this garbage.

They'll get to it sooner or later.

 

[SovereignGrace]

They'll get to it sooner or later.

Zacky. He'll get it alright. God will not be mocked.

 

[bbyrd009]

"the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures"
R 1:2

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I agree that Scriptures are not to be worshipped, they are only a message. But they are clearly holy.

ok, they might be when written, i'm surprised, but obviously the Book is and can be "scribed," how holy is that one?

 

[Ezekiel8]

Hmm, yes it is true the Bible is not the Word.

The Word of God is Jesus.

The Bible is the scriptures which testify of the Word, Jesus.

Makes me think very much indeed of this verse:

John 5:39

[SUP]39 [/SUP]Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

 

[preacher4truth]

The oblivious:

"HERESY IS SUCH AN OVERUSED ACCUSATION!!! IT HAS NO PLACE HERE!!!! WE NEED LOVE!!!!!!"

Which being interpreted meaneth:

"I rarely ever read my Bible, and I STILL can't stand sound doctrine nor can I stand those who contend for it. People who do it are hate-filled!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Zi]

I know. Rhetorical question..

He assumes we care.

His only point is the cap on his head whilst he's setting in the corner.

 

[SovereignGrace]

ok, they might be when written, i'm surprised, but obviously the Book is and can be "scribed," how holy is that one?

And yet on the Emmaus road[Luke24:27ff] it was the scriptures which you reject, that he expounded to show them who He is.

 

[Muzungu256]

Jesus is the Word this is true u see..........
bible is still God-breathed scriptures collected together for our instruction in all the tings it says yes.

 

[bbyrd009]

1. Well let's start with your erroneous belief that the Scripture is not called "the holy Scriptures".

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (2 Tim 3:15).

So this is the first error that you have to get rid of.

2. Next let's go to your erroneous belief that the Bible is NOT the Word of God:

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the Word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the Word which by the gospel is preached unto you. (1 Pet 1:23-25). [I have purposely capitalized Word, since that is how it should appear].

Since Peter is calling the Gospel "the Word of God" it should be clear that since the Gospel (and the Gospels) are in the Bible, that he is referring to the written Word of God.

So this is the second error that you have to get rid of.


3. And this is your third error which you should get rid of. Just because Jesus is called "the Word" does NOT cancel the fact that the Bible is also the Word of God. And it is Jesus -- the Word of God -- who said this, so that you will not make such mistakes again: It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Mt 4:4).

Holy Scripture i concede, i have always searched "Book" or "Law" there, and i am obviously incorrect there, yes.

"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the Word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the Word which by the gospel is preached unto you."

great verse, no connection from Word to Book, your perception is all that you have to go on there

"Since Peter is calling the Gospel "the Word of God" it should be clear that since the Gospel (and the Gospels) are in the Bible, that he is referring to the written Word of God.

So this is the second error that you have to get rid of."

actually the third i guess, but you cannot connect Gospel to Book, it is again strictly your perception guiding you, as the endless threads ie "What is the Gospel?" might indicate. Gospel is Word, Gospel is not defined in the Book, unless you can do it, in which case i will concede there as well. "Good News" is about as close as you can get near as i can tell

"Just because Jesus is called "the Word" does NOT cancel the fact that the Bible is also the Word of God."

so you say, but i don't believe you wadr, and i don't think you can prove it

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

should tell you all you need to know imo, when you get some Word from God's Mouth holla, k

 

[SovereignGrace]

if It is truth, then why isn't It the "Book of Truth?" And i would counsel reading It for all of the reasons that It states; worshipping It is a different matter imo

How do we know about God? Through reading the bible.
How do we know about the life, death, burial, resurrection and subsequent second ascension of the Christ? Through reading the bible.

I read the bible because it is truth. You read it why? You said it is Law and not truth. If its not truth, its not trustworthy. Again, why read that which you can not trust?

You have splinters in the windmills of your mind. I got that from 'The Family' on the Carol Burnett Show.

 

[preacher4truth]

And yet on the Emmaus road[Luke24:27ff] it was the scriptures which you reject, that he expounded to show them who He is.

I finished editing that link. Let me know your thoughts.

 

[bbyrd009]

You really don't know what you are talking about, do you.

well, you really can't find a verse that plainly states that Book is Word, and i can find plenty that suggest that the Bible will pass away, that the Bible is words, not Word, and i hope you get the point here is to lead you to Word, not discredit the Law, ok.

the Bible is descended from Word, true enough, but the Bible can be corrupted, and Word cannot.

 

[Ugly]

Mods, why is his attacking the word of God allowed to be posted on here? Please stop this garbage.

Do you really think mods read every post? And that by talking to the mods in a thread really gets their attention or has any effect whatsoever? If you see a problem with a post then it's your responsibility to report it using the report button and giving a description of the issue. That's why the button is there, to bring problems to the attention of the mods. And when they log on they will decide if it needs handling or not, and if so they will.
Mostly mods don't monitor the forums, they tend to be in the chats.

 

[bbyrd009]

Warning to the writer of the OP you will not find God in the teachings of men and the wise of this world who do not know God.

yet we seem to have no problem allowing them to scribe up the Book, and then calling It Word, huh

Just as you cannot see the wind you will not see God because spiritual things are spiritually discerned.

exactly my point, yes. Word requires wind