The end of Denominations and what they stand for

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Kerry

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Main stream denominations have lost there luster. Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Church of God, you name it. Tell me, when has your church preached the cross. Our have they preached psychology. Have they told you what Plato said or Homer. Maybe they have mixed the word with Aristotle and sigmund freud. Paul, went to Athens and meet with these intellects and tried to use his intellect against them. There is no record of a church being formed in Athens. Paul left there and went to Corinth. There, Paul said, I have not come to with excellent speech but in the power of the cross. He said I know nothing among you save Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Then later He says that the preaching of the cross is the power of God.

What should our churches be preaching. Certainly not what they are. The fruit speaks for it self. In America, we openly accept Gays. Our military openly accepts gays, Can God bless our military anymore? We are facing the most economic hardships that we have ever faced and we have been attacked on our own soil. The fault lies at the church and our so called preachers.

Football has taken the place of Sunday night worship. Most churches no longer have Sunday night services. When I was a child the town was a ghost town on Sunday, because no store or restaurant was open. America has backslidden and wants nothing to do with God.

Where are our churches. They are playing the harlot, with gays and oh don't mention sin thats a no no. If we mention sin the people will leave and lest have rock shows cause thats what the people want.
Jesus said if I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me. Wake up Church Please.
 
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I don't see what denominations has to do with the body of the message...the same ills happen in non denominations.
Can you clarify?
 
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reject-tech

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I think Paul cracks denominations pretty hard in 1 Cor 3
 
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Kerry

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Yes you mention Corinth. Thats what I'm saying. We went to Athens and used his intellect. Then went to Corinth after The Spirit gave him a whats up and He preached the cross in Corinth and started a church which did not happen in Athens. So why are our churches preaching Plato, Aristotle, Homer and Sigmund Freud? We need the Cross now more than ever.
 
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Kerry

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I will also mention in the book of Revelation. That Jesus, after talking to the churches, Shows Himself outside, where as before He was in the midst, but now is outside knocking and appealing to the individual. God has rejected the main stream denominations because they have rejected Him and have embraced psychology.
 
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Kerry

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crossnote said:
I don't see what denominations has to do with the body of the message...the same ills happen in non denominations.
Can you clarify?
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The church has left the cross and has no need of it. Non denominational churches are a false establishment. It only means that they do not affiliate with a denomination. If you have rules and ordinances then you are a denomination of your own and it is unavoidable. Because you must have rules. but to be a true church you must preach the cross and most do not. The preach Plato.
 
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When Yahweh calls His people out of the Great Whore on the seven hills, He will most likely be calling them out of her daughters also, after all they too are whores.
 
Huckleberry

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Kerry said:
Main stream denominations have lost there luster. Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, Assembly of God, Church of God, you name it. Tell me, when has your church preached the cross. Our have they preached psychology. Have they told you what Plato said or Homer. Maybe they have mixed the word with Aristotle and sigmund freud. Paul, went to Athens and meet with these intellects and tried to use his intellect against them. There is no record of a church being formed in Athens. Paul left there and went to Corinth. There, Paul said, I have not come to with excellent speech but in the power of the cross. He said I know nothing among you save Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Then later He says that the preaching of the cross is the power of God.

What should our churches be preaching. Certainly not what they are. The fruit speaks for it self. In America, we openly accept Gays. Our military openly accepts gays, Can God bless our military anymore? We are facing the most economic hardships that we have ever faced and we have been attacked on our own soil. The fault lies at the church and our so called preachers.

Football has taken the place of Sunday night worship. Most churches no longer have Sunday night services. When I was a child the town was a ghost town on Sunday, because no store or restaurant was open. America has backslidden and wants nothing to do with God.

Where are our churches. They are playing the harlot, with gays and oh don't mention sin thats a no no. If we mention sin the people will leave and lest have rock shows cause thats what the people want.
Jesus said if I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me. Wake up Church Please.
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While it is true that many so-called churches do not preach the Bible, the Cross, fire and brimstone, etc.,
you cannot lump all churches in to that pile. I belong to an Independent Baptist Church, and it is very
much alive in the Word. It is a Bible-preaching, soul-winning, missionary-supporting body of believers,
and the Preacher is not afraid to step on peoples toes...hard. The Holy Spirit convicts at our services.

I recommend that you attend a service at an Independent Baptist Church.
There are a few duds, but most of the ones I have visited are still doing things the old-fashioned way.
They are obviously not perfect churches, but as the old joke goes, if they were, I wouldn't be able to join.
 
Huckleberry

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reject-tech said:
I think Paul cracks denominations pretty hard in 1 Cor 3
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The way I read it, he was cracking believers who revered their preachers rather than God.

I myself prefer a clearly scripted sign on the building which lets
the potential visitor know approximately what to expect inside.
 
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Kerry

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Huckleberry said:
While it is true that many so-called churches do not preach the Bible, the Cross, fire and brimstone, etc.,
you cannot lump all churches in to that pile. I belong to an Independent Baptist Church, and it is very
much alive in the Word. It is a Bible-preaching, soul-winning, missionary-supporting body of believers,
and the Preacher is not afraid to step on peoples toes...hard. The Holy Spirit convicts at our services.

I recommend that you attend a service at an Independent Baptist Church.
There are a few duds, but most of the ones I have visited are still doing things the old-fashioned way.
They are obviously not perfect churches, but as the old joke goes, if they were, I wouldn't be able to join.
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I rejoice that you have a church that preaches the cross. Praise God I found a congregational holiness church that preaches the cross and souls are saved weekly. But, as a whole and for our nation, churches are scratching ears. God always has a remanent. But I hate the fact that we are a remnant and not the prominent as we once were in this nation. Our peoplke have fallen to the likes of Plato and prosperity when there is no prosperity.

Liberty comes from the preaching of the Cross and our churches and preachers are preaching something else and it disturbs me and I hope that through this forum that some can be reached.
 
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I think denominations to some extent separate the cults and the disobedient from the obedient. They give an idea of what doctrines the professing believers might hold to. While it is certainly true that the people might not hold to the doctrines the denomination professes, it at least gives a starting point, so someone searching for a church can rule out a lot of the cults or clearly disobedient up front.

It is true that you can find non-believers in some of those "obedient" churches, but I believe its also possible there may be true Christians in some of the cults or disobedient churches, who do not believe everything their cult teaches (I believe Jesus eventually calls such people away from these groups).

If all Christians would be wholly obedient and accept the finality of scripture on all points of contention, it is true that there would be much fewer denominations, and this is desirable. However, I believe it better to have denominations, than to force believing Christians into disobedience for the sake of unity.

I certainly don't believe everything my church makes an official statement about. These things are not about salvation, but I believe are about obedience and correctly interpreting the scripture. For the sake of unity, and because we are encouraged not to give up meeting together, I am happy to put aside these differences to meet with fellow believers. But there does come a point when such differences are impossible to reconcile, and this is the cause of the different denominations.
 
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Huckleberry

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Married_Richenbrachen said:
I certainly don't believe everything my church makes an official statement about. These things are not about salvation, but I believe are about obedience and correctly interpreting the scripture. For the sake of unity, and because we are encouraged not to give up meeting together, I am happy to put aside these differences to meet with fellow believers.
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I'm with you on this.
Here is an example:
As I posted before, I belong to a Baptist Church.
Baptists generally preach pre-trib rapture.
I am not on board that train.
I don't discuss my differences with fellow members (except my family),
so as not to "soweth discord among brethren".
 
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