The evil rapture and the evil evangelists. 👍

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Aaron56

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hmmm let me clear the Messiah needs to come back to fixed all issues of the muslims the Christians and the Jews.

Now you speak of a Christian Muslim.

Yes many Muslim has converted to Christian.

And vice versa.
Perhaps you meant “Arabs”? Most muslims are Arabs. Today, many Arabs are leaving Islam and believing in the Living God.
 

CS1

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so how do you separate the goats from sheep here then ) now I wish that Jesus does not come back to rule with a rod,
But by the looks of it he will.


Ok well Abram was born in modern day Iraq

So did the God create Islam for a purpose ?

Joseph most loved son of Jacob was rescued by the midianites, who prevented Joseph being drowned in a well by his brother's.

The midianites are known to have been descendants of Ishmael and Abraham's other sons. Who then became Jacobs sons


Joseph who got married to an Egyptian women gave birth to Ephraim and Manasseh.

how is Ismael important to this.

well Ismael represents the same story as Jacob and esau the twins who would Give birth to two nations

both first borns in Jewish tradition should have inherited the first rights. But the bible indicates they never, but they did receive a promise of God.

Ismael is more interesting as his descendants, the midianites, would save Joseph who would have been thrown out by his family and killed

Ismael was also sent away by his family.

but God loved Ismael and grew up with Ismael as a boy and trained him to be an archer, and how to live in hostility with his brother's because Ismael would have felt great pain for being cast out.

The name Ismael means God hears me. Because God grew up with him as a boy

The belief is also That Ishmeal was a prophet because God heard his mum's pleas to rescue him from Abraham's Jealous wife Sarah.

Sarah Who agreed in the first place to let Abraham have a child to Hagar, so Hagar had no right to be jealous.

God gave hagar and Ishmael a promise that a great nation would arise from Ismael.

It's interesting that Ismael's descendants the midianites knew to save Joseph from the well from suffering the same fate as Ishmeal and esau

There must have been someone in the midianites who where descendants of Ismael who was also a prophet that God heard the call to go and rescue Joseph from the well.

Why well God must have layed it on the brothers of Joseph's hearts to not kill Joseph
And God must have brought the Ishmaelites at that moment, because how long would those brothers have waited before they killed there brother ?

Then we see the same story with Zachariah in the Qur'an Zacharia was known to protect Mary from king Herod.

Did some of those midianites become Muslims too.

Well Joseph did marry an Egyptian women who gave birth to Ephraim and Manasseh.


But you have to wonder would the Jews have kept Mary safe during the birth of Jesus.

Because King Herod ordered all children under Two to be killed known as the massacre of innocent in search of Jesus.

So was Zachariah related to the midianites too.

But also we see Zachariah keeping quiet about John the Baptist for 9 months too.

Then also we see how Ismael's promise can be found in Jesus

As God said to Ismael you will live in Great hostility with your brother's.

Well to live in this way also means to suffer in this way to fit your brother's

Well so to did Jesus, and so he does today live this way with brothers.

And brothers of Jesus live this way and God hears us like Ismael.

But then this is only the start of the ismael story 😊

So we see the promise unfold the same way yes
First off, God separates, not me :).

No, God did not create Islam; Mohammed did 600 years after Christianity.

Joseph was used to save his people.
God rejected Ishmeal.

If you read the Genealogy of Jesus in Mathew and Luke you will see Jesus from David and Adam. NOT Abraham.
 
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First off, God separates, not me :).

No, God did not create Islam; Mohammed did 600 years after Christianity.

Joseph was used to save his people.
God rejected Ishmeal.

If you read the Genealogy of Jesus in Mathew and Luke you will see Jesus from David and Adam. NOT Abraham.
oh here we go bring Mohamed into it


I know of Jewish prophets.who where reprehended

Obviously you havent studied my post in full

It doesn't even mention Mohamed.
 

CS1

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oh here we go bring Mohamed into it


I know of Jewish prophets.who where reprehended

Obviously you havent studied my post in full

It doesn't even mention Mohamed.
Hey, don't get upset because I provide historical context to the founder of Islam. No, I don't have time to study your post, as I'm sure you have not studied anyone else's. LOL.
 

CS1

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Welcome and know the truth.

THe Christian evangelist belief of the rapture hadn't happened yet is causing the death of Christians world wide.

see for yourself.

The evil rapture and the evil evangelists.




First off this is your first post on the thread

you have said

"Welcome and know the truth."

THe Christian evangelist belief of the rapture hadn't happened yet is causing the death of Christians world wide.

see for yourself.



This is not the "truth" but opinionated.

what does one need to study here ?
 
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Hey, don't get upset because I provide historical context to the founder of Islam. No, I don't have time to study your post, as I'm sure you have not studied anyone else's. LOL.
honestly, we couldn't agree Elijah was told of by God remember

Then you got all upset when I was fundaaamental my last user name

Then you chose to fall out with me because you couldn't discuss the gender issue.

Then you got upset with me last week because we you could discuss people blaming God

Nope it's you who gets upset
 
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First off this is your first post on the thread

you have said

"Welcome and know the truth."

THe Christian evangelist belief of the rapture hadn't happened yet is causing the death of Christians world wide.

see for yourself.


This is not the "truth" but opinionated.

what does one need to study here ?
that would be your knee jerk reaction to not discuss something through your own fear 😋
 

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honestly, we couldn't agree Elijah was told of by God remember

Then you got all upset when I was fundaaamental my last user name

Then you chose to fall out with me because you couldn't discuss the gender issue.

Then you got upset with me last week because we you could discuss people blaming God.

Nope it's you who gets upset

Your videos seem to be founded in a subtle type of anti-Semitic prop. You can try to make this about me. Good luck, LOL.

Also, you can deflect past posts. The point is your thread here, and the two YouTube videos are Opinionated. That is ok; you try to suggest I was upset or am LOL I am not.

Let's stick to the context of this thread and the truth that was said by many and have a discussion. But when you are called out on the context of your thread, you try to deflect to other threads in the past LOL.

No one here is upset stop playing the victim.
 
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Your videos seem to be founded in a subtle type of anti-Semitic prop. You can try to make this about me. Good luck, LOL.

Also, you can deflect past posts. The point is your thread here, and the two YouTube videos are Opinionated. That is ok; you try to suggest I was upset or am LOL I am not.

Let's stick to the context of this thread and the truth that was said by many and have a discussion. But when you are called out on the context of your thread, you try to deflect to other threads in the past LOL.

No one here is upset stop playing the victim.
I see you changed your funny approval of the first post to a red x.

Seems you don't know how to make your mind up.

Ooooooooooo

Isaiah 45:7 in Other Translations7 I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things. 7 I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, the LORD, am the one who does these things.
 

CS1

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that would be your knee jerk reaction to not discuss something through your own fear 😋
FYI I watched both videos :) they have nothing to do with the rapture but speak about one person's experience as a professing Christian in Israel. Again there was no biblical truth but Political and social.
 

CS1

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I see you changed your funny approval of the first post to a red x.

Seems you don't know how to make your mind up.

Ooooooooooo

Isaiah 45:7 in Other Translations7 I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things. 7 I create the light and make the darkness. I send good times and bad times. I, the LORD, am the one who does these things.

as the thread progresses and I look at the context you provided, I disagree X with the thread opinion. And my mind is made up :).
 
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Your videos seem to be founded in a subtle type of anti-Semitic prop. You can try to make this about me. Good luck, LOL.

Also, you can deflect past posts. The point is your thread here, and the two YouTube videos are Opinionated. That is ok; you try to suggest I was upset or am LOL I am not.

Let's stick to the context of this thread and the truth that was said by many and have a discussion. But when you are called out on the context of your thread, you try to deflect to other threads in the past LOL.

No one here is upset stop playing the victim.
look if.you are offended by not being able to handle people who you have supported, who have promoted the wrong type of ideology, I can't apologise for this.

I have to do my duty and open your eyes 😊
 
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as the thread progresses and I look at the context you provided, I disagree X with the thread opinion. And my mind is made up :).
nope your mind is stuck in an ideology of what suits your opinion.

So with all dew respect if you want to talk about the promise and goats then let's us talk.

Because you sir are closing the lid like most evangelists do

But may I remind you sir evangelism comes to us all in some way 😊
 

CS1

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look if.you are offended by not being able to handle people who you have supported, who have promoted the wrong type of ideology, I can't apologise for this.

I have to do my duty and open your eyes 😊

again I am not offended LOL. You need to stop trying to create feeling bombs, LOL. I surely am not asking you to apologize, LOL.

Do you believe Islam is a cult? Just a question? What is wrong with Ideology? I want to be sure I am, in fact, supporting one.
 

CS1

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nope your mind is stuck in an ideology of what suits your opinion.

So with all dew respect if you want to talk about the promise and goats then let's us talk.

Because you sir are closing the lid like most evangelists do

But may I remind you sir evangelism comes to us all in some way 😊
which one, please?
 
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which one, please?
that I may be against what you believe

Or that I may be speaking bad of people you like

No sir I like billy Graham.

But billy did sometimes act like Moses as did John Hague.

But I can forgive them.
 
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again I am not offended LOL. You need to stop trying to create feeling bombs, LOL. I surely am not asking you to apologize, LOL.

Do you believe Islam is a cult? Just a question? What is wrong with Ideology? I want to be sure I am, in fact, supporting one.
sir asking me if islam is a cult is really unfair
 

p_rehbein

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Welcome and know the truth.

THe Christian evangelist belief of the rapture hadn't happened yet is causing the death of Christians world wide.

see for yourself.

The evil rapture and the evil evangelists.

This is truly sad to see on a Christian Forum. However, I have been here many years, and seen many trolls with many views appear here to espouse such sad commentary. Some sanctified believers truly need to pray for you, that you will experience the witness of the Holy Ghost, and come to an understanding of the Truth of Scripture. As for me, I believe you are the latest troll to appear here to sow seeds of discord.
 

CS1

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that I may be against what you believe

Or that I may be speaking bad of people you like

No sir I like billy Graham.

But billy did sometimes act like Moses as did John Hague.

But I can forgive them.
just asking for ideology over what is known as Chruch Doctrine :)
 
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This is truly sad to see on a Christian Forum. However, I have been here many years, and seen many trolls with many views appear here to espouse such sad commentary. Some sanctified believers truly need to pray for you, that you will experience the witness of the Holy Ghost, and come to an understanding of the Truth of Scripture. As for me, I believe you are the latest troll to appear here to sow seeds of discord.
well the troll reasoning we'll and truly shuts the lid on discussion

So ok feal free.

But since when does calling people trolls resolve anything

Is this you capacity of intellect 🤔

I hope not.

It's seems you've been a member here a long time

Have you not learned tolerance in all this time