The falling away

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Fails to address the point. The church prevails even though the gates of hell come against her.

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Roger[/QUOTE Just what is the church? It says " not all Israel is Israel" so it is in the body. Not all the are in the "church are the church" But God is faithful. It is the children of the promise, they are the heirs.
 
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The falling away is when the devil gets here and those that dwell on the earth (except the elect) worship him. They think he is JESUS so they fall away to the devil instead of staying with The TRUE CHRIST:

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
The Devil and his spirit (antichrist) was cast down to earth at the time of Jesus and the apostles. (confirmed by scripture)

We also see confirmation of this casting out of Satan in Revelation 12:7-9And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This confirms the casting out of Satan (prince of this world) and the place of their sanctuary also being cast down, as confirmed in the in Daniel 8:11.

Jesus said in
Luke 10:18 “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Jesus also said the Prince of this world is judged in John 16:11 “Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” And again in John 14:30 “Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.” And so again when is Satan judged, cast out, and when does he come? John 12:31Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”

And when Jesus said now, he meant now! Not some 1,982 years or so later. Alright, we have scriptural proof to confirm this, and Jesus’ own testimony to confirm this, and now the apostles testimony of the coming of antichrist spirit.

1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”

1 John 4:3 “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

2 John 1:7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”

Note, John says nothing about a single man yet to come in the future being called Antichrist, but rather he tells us antichrist is a spirit which works in many. (many deceivers)