The heavens declare the glory of God.

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Thats a good observation though God made the heavens before he made man and before man wrote any scripture so this new place could already be ready or like you said still forming let's say like Alpha Centauri a younger galaxy than ours or this place might not be even in our universe. Or this place could be in our own solar system say Mars once the sun gets to a point in its growth it reaches the red giant stage earth will be too close and Mars in the Goldie locks zone. all just amusing speculations of coarse lol :)
Hard to say. Even harder to think about for too long of a stretch of time. Mind shuts down in awe and overload at some point.
The universe came before man, but also Jesus said, I go to prepare a place for you and when it is ready...
However, God speaks as though everyhing had already happened - like, the lamb slain FROM the beginning of the world, so it seems like it happened long before we saw it come to pass. He has a way of speaking that is so odd to me!
Gets too boggling to keep on for too long!.

Interesting thought though, that maybe it's in our universe already...that would make heaven hidden from us somewhere in our own universe, which doesn't seem to my finite mind as right since the waters from above were separated from the waters below...however, at the same time, it seems right because the universe is expanding...gotta stop. Too big a bite for me to process!
 

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[video=youtube;buqtdpuZxvk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk[/video]
 

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Thats a good observation though God made the heavens before he made man and before man wrote any scripture so this new place could already be ready or like you said still forming let's say like Alpha Centauri a younger galaxy than ours or this place might not be even in our universe. Or this place could be in our own solar system say Mars once the sun gets to a point in its growth it reaches the red giant stage earth will be too close and Mars in the Goldie locks zone. all just amusing speculations of coarse lol :)
I highly doubt it will have much to do with this existing universe.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
(2Pe 3:10)

And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
(Isa 34:4)

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
(Heb 1:10-12)




What is interesting is that heaven may not be 'far' but 'here', just in another dimension.

Just before Stephen was stoned...

And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
(Act 7:56)
 
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Here is a 5 min video that shows a cross at the end of the known universe...


[video=youtube;RvzA9Pv3pcM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvzA9Pv3pcM[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;buqtdpuZxvk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk[/video]
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth
I always wondered what 'intelligent' person would say such a thing...i.e. who would you pray to if there is no intelligent life somewhere up there?
 

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Here is a 5 min video that shows a cross at the end of the known universe...


[video=youtube;RvzA9Pv3pcM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvzA9Pv3pcM[/video]
Don't let the ACLU get hold of that:p.