The Holy Inquisitions Killed Millions or Only Thousands?

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Mooky

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Tintin

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The number of deaths is estimated to be in the very low thousands.

The Inquisition is certainly a black spot; biblical Christianity, from a human standpoint, tells people to come freely to Christ, not be forced to profess Christ because of threats. But the Inquisition also must be put into perspective, both compared with the numbers and the culture of the time. Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834): historians such as Henry Kamen estimate between 1,500 and 4,000 people were executed for heresy,[SUP]8[/SUP] out of Spain’s 6–10 million total population. So at most 0.05% of Spain’s population was killed. While this is nevertheless deplorable, it means that the Inquisition’s rate of executing people was lower than that of the state of Texas today, while atheist Stalin often killed that many before breakfast (so to speak). Furthermore, Inquisition trials were often fairer and more lenient than their secular counterparts—indeed, some criminals uttered heresies precisely so they would be transferred to the Inquisition courts.

The source for this paragraph is an excellent, little article concerning Christianity and its atrocities. The atrocities are deplorable, but the numbers we often hear have been skewed greatly by atheists. Here's the truth. Between 1,500 and 4,000 people were executed for heresy in a 356 year period.

Source: Bad things by church - creation.com

 
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Ahwatukee

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The number of deaths is estimated to be in the very low thousands.

The Inquisition is certainly a black spot; biblical Christianity, from a human standpoint, tells people to come freely to Christ, not be forced to profess Christ because of threats. But the Inquisition also must be put into perspective, both compared with the numbers and the culture of the time. Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834): historians such as Henry Kamen estimate between 1,500 and 4,000 people were executed for heresy,[SUP]8[/SUP] out of Spain’s 6–10 million total population. So at most 0.05% of Spain’s population was killed. While this is nevertheless deplorable, it means that the Inquisition’s rate of executing people was lower than that of the state of Texas today, while atheist Stalin often killed that many before breakfast (so to speak). Furthermore, Inquisition trials were often fairer and more lenient than their secular counterparts—indeed, some criminals uttered heresies precisely so they would be transferred to the Inquisition courts.

The source for this paragraph is an excellent, little article concerning Christianity and its atrocities. The atrocities are deplorable, but the numbers we often hear have been skewed greatly by atheists. Here's the truth. Between 1,500 and 4,000 people were executed for heresy in a 356 year period.

Source: Bad things by church - creation.com
Hi Tintin,

A very good source of information regarding the history of the Papacy and the RCC would be:

"The Woman Who Rides the Beast: The Roman Catholic church and the Last Days" By Dave Hunt
 

Ahwatukee

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That's what I see here in Brazil - some Catholic priests are working hard on it.
Thank you for that information Marcelo. Please keep us posted regarding any information regarding this issue.
 

peacenik

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Tintin,



historians such as Henry Kamen estimate between 1,500 and 4,000 people were executed for heresy,[SUP]8[/SUP] out of Spain’s 6–10 million total population



I read one of Kamen's books on the subject. He, like so many other writers, failed to address the issue I raised in my post: that of the thousands who died in prison or through exile so that their deaths were not directly attributable to the Inquisition. Many of these people in those slaves ships were forced to eat human waste in order to survive. Others upon reaching the tropics in the Caribbean, South America, or the Philippines immediately became ill from tropical illness and died. The numbers could well reach into the tens of thousands. History did not record their actual numbers.

Therefore, Kamen, like so many other revisionist historians, who tried to put a humane spin into this tragedy erred.
 

Marcelo

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Catholic priest says: Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

[video]https://youtu.be/ZJvNHKNrV-8[/video]

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[TD]A IGREJA CATÓLICA É NECESSÁRIA PARA SALVAÇÃO
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NECESSARY FOR SALVATION[/TD]
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[TD]05”[/TD]
[TD]... é que o batismo[/TD]
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[TD]... is that the baptism [/TD]
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[TD]08”[/TD]
[TD]abre a porta[/TD]
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[TD]opens the door[/TD]
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[TD]10”[/TD]
[TD]para a pessoa[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]for the person[/TD]
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[TD]11”[/TD]
[TD] participar da igreja de Cristo[/TD]
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[TD] to participate in the church of Christ[/TD]
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[TD]15”[/TD]
[TD]e a pertença à Igreja Católica,[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]and being an active member of the Catholic Church, [/TD]
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[TD], a igreja de Cristo,[/TD]
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[TD] ,the church of Christ,[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]é necessária para a salvação[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]is necessary for salvation[/TD]
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Marcelo

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Thank you for that information Marcelo. Please keep us posted regarding any information regarding this issue.
Sure thing!

See Father Paulo Ricardo, in my previous post, stating that there is no salvation outside the RCC.
 

trofimus

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the more than five thousand cathars of Beziers france that were massacred in 1209 might not agree with that. more than half of them were women and children.
Man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.