The image of God

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Yeraza_Bats

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God is invisible, so the image is inward not outward by appearance. Just as Jesus is the express (inward) image of God the Father.

Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
I always took that as invisible to /us/, because we cant see spirits. Im sure spirits can see each other. And remember that Enoch saw the angels, and what they look like in heaven.

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John 4:24 God is spirit and those that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. [NRSV]

John 3:3 Jesus answered him, "Very truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above. . . .
5) Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. 6) What is born of the flesh is flesh and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Do not be astonished that I said to you, You must be born from above.
[NRSV]
 
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Marian29

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John 4:24 God is spirit and those that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. [NRSV]

John 3:3 Jesus answered him, "Very truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born from above. . . .
5) Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. 6) What is born of the flesh is flesh and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7) Do not be astonished that I said to you, You must be born from above.
[NRSV]
Amen, sis!
 
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Reformed_Baptist

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God made man and breathed into Adam the breath of LIVES<---plural

Hebrew has

Singular=1
Dual=pairs or twos
Plural=three or more

The word life is plural in Hebrew which equals LIVES as in..

Physical LIFE<--BODY
Intellectual LIFE<--MIND
Spiritual LIFE<--Spirit

One man (ADAM) manifested three ways just like ONE GOD manifested three ways as in....

The Father=Intellect
The SON=Body
The H.S.=Spirit, Breath
hmmmm, the text actually says that God breathed into Adam the breadth of lives ( חַיִּ֑ים - plural) and he became a living being (חַיָּֽה׃ - singular)
 
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I always took that as invisible to /us/, because we cant see spirits. Im sure spirits can see each other. And remember that Enoch saw the angels, and what they look like in heaven.

(No w, my keyboard is kinda busted up)
In this verse Paul describes God as a Light which no man can approach, or can see in 1 Timothy 6:16 "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen."
 

ISeeYou

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hmmmm, the text actually says that God breathed into Adam the breadth of lives ( חַיִּ֑ים - plural) and he became a living being (חַיָּֽה׃ - singular)
Jesus came out from God, and woman came out from Man

Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Then called the two by one name
 
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sassylady

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We are a three part being as God is
 
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hmmmm, the text actually says that God breathed into Adam the breadth of lives ( חַיִּ֑ים - plural) and he became a living being (חַיָּֽה׃ - singular)
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[TD]Gen 2:7[/TD]
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What is also interesting is the word "beast" is the same as life and living (H2416)

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[TD]Gen 1:24
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[TD]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living [SUP]H2416[/SUP] creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast [SUP]H2416[/SUP] of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
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Reformed_Baptist

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Jesus came out from God, and woman came out from Man

Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Then called the two by one name
You do know that 'adam' ( אָדָם ) is Hebrew for 'man' or 'mankind' don't you?
 

ISeeYou

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You do know that 'adam' ( אָדָם ) is Hebrew for 'man' or 'mankind' don't you?
Ofcourse, the two are one flesh (both called by one name) as the woman came out from the man obviously they two are the same.

Jesus Christ came out from God. Jesus is the wisdom /Sophia of God too correct? Even they two are one Spirit
 
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Reformed_Baptist

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What is also interesting is the word "beast" is the same as life and living (H2416)

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[TD]Gen 1:24[/TD]
[TD]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living [SUP]H2416[/SUP] creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast [SUP]H2416[/SUP] of the earth after his kind: and it was so.[/TD]
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Hebrew isn't that simple :D

The word can be used in an abstract sense to express life in all it's fullness and vitality, in 2 Sam 23:20 it is used in the sense of vigour. It can be used as an adjective to describe things as 'living' - in gen 1:24 it does not mean 'beast' so much as 'living thing' which shares a semantic ever lap with 'beast' in English. Sometimes it is used of God, eg Dan 12:7.

It is not a word that speaks of quality of life, simply of life - as such nothing can be read into it in gen 2:7 beyond the fact that Adam was made alive through God's creation.
 

Billyd

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I apologize for my delay in responding. I had a family health crisis and this is the first chance that I have had to respond.

I believe that John 14 8-9 is the key to the answer to my question.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?

Jesus shows us both the physical and spiritual attributes of God. It is the physical attributes of Jesus that shows us the physical image of man. If we study the actions of Jesus throughout the New Testament, we can develop a picture of his spiritual image. Was this spiritual image a part of man at creation, or is it an image that we must develop? I lean towards it was there at creation.
 
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Marian29

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I apologize for my delay in responding. I had a family health crisis and this is the first chance that I have had to respond.

I believe that John 14 8-9 is the key to the answer to my question.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?

Jesus shows us both the physical and spiritual attributes of God. It is the physical attributes of Jesus that shows us the physical image of man. If we study the actions of Jesus throughout the New Testament, we can develop a picture of his spiritual image. Was this spiritual image a part of man at creation, or is it an image that we must develop? I lean towards it was there at creation.
I hope your family will be better soon... God bless!
I guess the understand of the plenitude of Creation and Spiritual life will be possible when His Kingdom will be finally stablished on the New Earth.
 

Billyd

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I hope your family will be better soon... God bless!
I guess the understand of the plenitude of Creation and Spiritual life will be possible when His Kingdom will be finally stablished on the New Earth.
Thanks for your concern. My wife fell, and at the same time my blood sodium level fell far too low. Our children panicked. She's fine, and I'm on my way back to normal. Children are still panicking, so we spent some of our evening praying for them.

Back to the image of God as it relates to man at creation. Was it the physical image of God or the spiritual and physical image of God that He created man in?
 
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weakness

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To understand how man is represented as being the image of God one must first ask, what is the image of God?[/QUOTE I think I have pushed more like button this week than ever before. The image of God at some point must be seen. In other words Christ life is the image, what Jesus has done and continues to do is what the Father does. If the Father were in the form of man He would have and will do exactly what the Father would do and does. The greatest manifestation of the Father cane be found in the fruits of the Holy spirit in us, also the same can be said of Jesus, his life, The Spirit of the Father in him. Just how was this manifest. He left the glory of heavens habitation, his comfort zone for us. To show mercy, to eventually to bear the sufferings of others to gain our redemption, salvation and sonship and heirs of the promises made to the fathers. The cross, humiliation, the holding of his power in patience, and physical pain and suffering, undeserved for us. This is the image of the Father, at least in part.I think the creation also bears this image and declares the Fathers Glory. It says that the creation was made subject to vanity , not willingly , but by reason of him who called the same in hope of resurrection waiting to be revealed at the appearing of our lord. For there is one glory of the stars,another glory of the moon, each after there own as with us. Thank you for all the good and encouraging posts, at least for me.