The King James Only Debate
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Every English bible after the KJV that I've looked into is an antichrist bible and it's extremely easy to see. There is only one Christ and many false Christs. No different with the bible there is only one true vine and many vines of Sodom... this isn't rocket science lol.
I don't know anything about bibles before the kJV
I don't know anything about bibles before the kJV
Parables aren't interpreted, they're read and understood for what they say. For example the parable of the sower, we don't interpret what the seed is, it's given to us in scripture. The seed is the word of God. The same is true for all parables in the bible, they're not up to our interpretation. Do a KJV search on vines and then you'll get the idea of what a vine is in scripture.
The newer translations do not emphasize that the works of a believer lead to salvation. The term being used in Greek has to do with exercising, just as you have to put in the work following Christ to grow in Him, like reading the Bible daily, praying, doing devotions, etc. You get from God, what you put in. If you want to grow deeper in your personal relationship with him, you need to go deep in your pursuit of Him. The NIV does not say to do all he can do to maintain favor with God. The one that Jesus has saved does do works to earn salvation but in gratitude for the favor that God has bestowed on him. That is not the vine of Sodom, get out of the KJV cult now! God bless.
OK sounds like I misunderstood the following post.
I thought you meant that the kjv was the only Bible for you, but God might lead someone else to use a different one.
but now it sounds like the others are all Antichrist bibles, so (I assume) God wouldn't lead anyone to use them.
did I get that right this time?
I thought you meant that the kjv was the only Bible for you, but God might lead someone else to use a different one.
but now it sounds like the others are all Antichrist bibles, so (I assume) God wouldn't lead anyone to use them.
did I get that right this time?
I don't have to work to grow in Christ. I do read the bible daily and I pray occasionally but I don't do devotions... does God love you more than me? Are you more approved to God than me? The questions are rhetorical, I don't think you think those things. Youre caught in the trap of "I'm saved by grace now let me see what work I can to do to please God". It doesn't work that way. I've entered the Sabaath rest, the promised land, I don't work anymore!
As for the NIV preaching works, it does and it has decieved you. See your comment in red above.
"Do YOUR best to present YOURSELF to God as one APPROVED". That says nothing but works, make yourself better to earn God's approval THEN you can be a worker if you're approved by God. One little change in the wording and the meaning of the verse is completely changed.... And this is exactly the way you understood the verse from the NIV - work for approval. See your comment in red above.
2 Timothy 2:15New International Version (NIV)
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
Notice the difference in the KJV. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God AS A WORKMAN". No works to be approved by God. Studying the word to prove to God that you are a workman that shouldn't be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth... No works!
2 Timothy 2:15King James Version (KJV)
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
As for the NIV preaching works, it does and it has decieved you. See your comment in red above.
"Do YOUR best to present YOURSELF to God as one APPROVED". That says nothing but works, make yourself better to earn God's approval THEN you can be a worker if you're approved by God. One little change in the wording and the meaning of the verse is completely changed.... And this is exactly the way you understood the verse from the NIV - work for approval. See your comment in red above.
2 Timothy 2:15New International Version (NIV)
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
Notice the difference in the KJV. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God AS A WORKMAN". No works to be approved by God. Studying the word to prove to God that you are a workman that shouldn't be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth... No works!
2 Timothy 2:15King James Version (KJV)
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Any man who can read can pick up a Bible and prophesy of scripture, but who heard a stick hiss would pick up it up?
The blind could still hear it hiss; the deaf would see it was serpent.
Who needs to divide the word of truth unless it is the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? And what would you need to divide the word of truth with? The 'Mack' or the 'Big Iron', or the Book in your own hand?
But as far as who heard a stick hiss would pick it up, a serpent looking for a date.
The blind could still hear it hiss; the deaf would see it was serpent.
Who needs to divide the word of truth unless it is the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? And what would you need to divide the word of truth with? The 'Mack' or the 'Big Iron', or the Book in your own hand?
But as far as who heard a stick hiss would pick it up, a serpent looking for a date.
Guess I am in trouble then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJSKxP3qNzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJSKxP3qNzY
Do you know of any early Bible?
If the KJV was translated from the original manuscripts then there wouldn't have been any other English translations of the Bible. So why would there be English translations if the other European Nations didn't speak English.
So you must mean the Quran being the only other authoritative since the KJV isn't.
Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
Isa 45:1
22 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah might be accomplished, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,
23 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, All the kingdoms of the earth hath the LORD God of heaven given me; and he hath charged me to build him an house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Who is there among you of all his people? The LORD his God be with him, and let him go up.
2 Chron 36:22-23
If the KJV was translated from the original manuscripts then there wouldn't have been any other English translations of the Bible. So why would there be English translations if the other European Nations didn't speak English.
So you must mean the Quran being the only other authoritative since the KJV isn't.
Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
Isa 45:1
22 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah might be accomplished, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,
23 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, All the kingdoms of the earth hath the LORD God of heaven given me; and he hath charged me to build him an house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Who is there among you of all his people? The LORD his God be with him, and let him go up.
2 Chron 36:22-23
Dan I didn't read the KJV for the first 15 years of Christian life and I can't even tell you why I didn't much less why other people don't. I know I didn't know jack about the bible or anything about Jesus during that time, all I knew was "I'm saved by grace now I need to go do some work to make God happy". I'm way beyond that now that I've been in the KJV. Now I know God and Christ is truly in me.
I guess you mean willingly ignoring the obvious, and yes I believe some people do. An inerrant bible gives a standard for doctrine, but some people prefer to set their own standards.
Deceived by Satan - Not by choosing an NIV but by the words written in the NIV. The NIV supports another gospel, not the gospel of grace.
I wouldn't say punished but rather God puts them under cruel authority. The more complete answer to question is found here:
Numbers 21:5-8 KJV
And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.
[6] And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
[7] Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord , and against thee; pray unto the Lord , that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
[8] And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
If a persons soul loathes light bread, then God will send in the fiery flying serpents... some will die and some willl look upon the serpent on the pole and live. If you dont understand the symbolism, follow the key below.
Light Bread - word of God.
Fiery - from hell.
Flying - spirits.
Serpents - decievers.
Edit: Keep in mind that from 1611 until Wecott and Hort there were no fiery flying serpents.
Deceived by Satan - Not by choosing an NIV but by the words written in the NIV. The NIV supports another gospel, not the gospel of grace.
I wouldn't say punished but rather God puts them under cruel authority. The more complete answer to question is found here:
Numbers 21:5-8 KJV
And the people spake against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loatheth this light bread.
[6] And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
[7] Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord , and against thee; pray unto the Lord , that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.
[8] And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
If a persons soul loathes light bread, then God will send in the fiery flying serpents... some will die and some willl look upon the serpent on the pole and live. If you dont understand the symbolism, follow the key below.
Light Bread - word of God.
Fiery - from hell.
Flying - spirits.
Serpents - decievers.
Edit: Keep in mind that from 1611 until Wecott and Hort there were no fiery flying serpents.
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