The law of moses the law giver or the go between ?
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A better translation would be "gave them over to"
Eze 20:25 "Therefore I also gave them up to statutes that were not good, and judgments by which they could not live; - NKJV
New Living Translation
I gave them over to worthless decrees and regulations that would not lead to life.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
I also allowed them to follow laws that were no good and rules by which they could not live
Simply put, God gave them perfect, righteous Laws...
Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Psa 19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
But Israel rejected them so God allowed them to follow laws that were not good for them.
Either that or God is a liar. He says His Laws are perfect, so if the laws referred to in Ezek 20:25 are His Laws, then He lied.
Eze 20:25 "Therefore I also gave them up to statutes that were not good, and judgments by which they could not live; - NKJV
New Living Translation
I gave them over to worthless decrees and regulations that would not lead to life.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
I also allowed them to follow laws that were no good and rules by which they could not live
Simply put, God gave them perfect, righteous Laws...
Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Psa 19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
But Israel rejected them so God allowed them to follow laws that were not good for them.
Either that or God is a liar. He says His Laws are perfect, so if the laws referred to in Ezek 20:25 are His Laws, then He lied.
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the law was created before the earth was created
Lucifer sinned and broke number one
the law runs the universe
lucifere could not have SINNED and broke the RULES without the RULES BEING THERE.
the law of the universe above the speed of light and heisenbergs uncertainty princile is
the commandments
they will never be removed/
John 7:19 19"Did not Moses give you the Law, and yet none of you carries out the Law?
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
2 Peter 3:17-18New International Version - UK (NIVUK)
17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
the people who are lawless dont have grace the people who not lawless do have grace from the lord,,
the law was given to Moses moses passed it on, Moses is a profit,,, the law is prophesy from God moses is not the giver but the keeper he keep the laws and then he gives the law so he both a law keep and a law giver
2 Peter 3:17-18New International Version - UK (NIVUK)
17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
the people who are lawless dont have grace the people who not lawless do have grace from the lord,,
the law was given to Moses moses passed it on, Moses is a profit,,, the law is prophesy from God moses is not the giver but the keeper he keep the laws and then he gives the law so he both a law keep and a law giver
The Law of Moses is the list of rituals, moral laws, and guidance that are recorded in the the Books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The are called the Law of Moses because God gave them to the nation of Israel through a man called Moses:
).
The New Testament tells us that God added (Gal. 3:17
,19
) the Law of Moses to the life of his people to teach them: the Law taught people about sin (Gal. 3:19
, 22-23
), and it taught people about Christ (Gal. 3:24, NASB
). Now that Christ has come, the Law has been abolished (Gal. 3:25
; Rom. 10:4
: i.e. we do not need to follow the Law of Moses nowadays). Instead, nowadays we need to follow the Lord Jesus Christ himself (Gal. 6:2
; Phil. 2:5
; 1Peter 2:21
).
On top of that, if Moses was a law keeper he would have entered the promised land, but as it is plainly recorded, he didn't keep the law, however, his soul was saved through some acts of righteousness by his faith.
Remember the law of Moses My servant, even the statutes and ordinances which I [God] commanded him in Horeb for all Israel. (Mal. 4:4, NASB
)
The Jews were to follow the Law of Moses (Deut. 4:1
The New Testament tells us that God added (Gal. 3:17
On top of that, if Moses was a law keeper he would have entered the promised land, but as it is plainly recorded, he didn't keep the law, however, his soul was saved through some acts of righteousness by his faith.
God didn't abolish anything else. When Christ gave his blood, it made animal blood unnecessary. When Christ became the High Priest He made the High Priest unnecessary. Christ made the law unnecessary for salvation, but that was so from the beginning, no one received salvation or atonement without blood.
I hope you are not right about abolishing the law, although it is growing weaker, and it won't be abolished until we have a new earth. It would take away our entire faith and make our God unreliable.
Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of Judah: cf. Genesis 49:8 as interpreted by Revelation 5:5
Genesis 49:8 Jacob Blesses his Sons
…7"Cursed be their anger, for it is fierce; And their wrath, for it is cruel. I will disperse them in Jacob, And scatter them in Israel. 8"Judah, your brothers shall praise you; Your hand shall be on the neck of your enemies; Your father's sons shall bow down to you. 9"Judah is a lion's whelp; From the prey, my son, you have gone up.
Revelation 5:5 The Lamb is Worthy
5and one of the elders said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals."
John 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope. 46"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
Genesis 49:8 Jacob Blesses his Sons
…7"Cursed be their anger, for it is fierce; And their wrath, for it is cruel. I will disperse them in Jacob, And scatter them in Israel. 8"Judah, your brothers shall praise you; Your hand shall be on the neck of your enemies; Your father's sons shall bow down to you. 9"Judah is a lion's whelp; From the prey, my son, you have gone up.
Revelation 5:5 The Lamb is Worthy
5and one of the elders said to me, "Stop weeping; behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome so as to open the book and its seven seals."
John 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope. 46"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.