The Natural Man

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

throughfaith

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2020
10,467
1,593
113
Do I really have to keep explaining this over and over again in every thread that you start?
We can on here. This thread is specifically about " The natural man '
or as Calvinists read 'Man without the Holy Spirit '. I see Calvinists are ok with isolated verses used once to mean way more than whats plainly written.
 
May 19, 2020
3,050
1,275
113
In context..scripture not Calvin.

But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s.
It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it,for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means...1 Corinthians 2:14..

The natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God,for they are folly to him,and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.


So,through faith,is a natural man a born again? ..from reading your posts you seem to think they are.

Surely I’m mistaken?
 

fredoheaven

Senior Member
Nov 17, 2015
4,048
949
113
In context..scripture not Calvin.

But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s.
It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it,for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means...1 Corinthians 2:14..

The natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God,for they are folly to him,and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.


So,through faith,is a natural man a born again? ..from reading your posts you seem to think they are.

Surely I’m mistaken?
Where is the context? thanks.
 
May 19, 2020
3,050
1,275
113
Where is the context? thanks.
The scripture speaks for itself,the context is there,only imo...you don’t understand it..from what I have read of your posts,..which is ok,ask the Holy Spirit for help on understanding,that is what I do......He will help you,if you truly desire to learn.
After all the Holy Spirit dwells in you,doesn’t He?


Can you interpret the scripture I posted...?..thanks.
 
May 19, 2020
3,050
1,275
113
@fredoheaven ....Can we discuss 1 Corinthians 2:10-14...or more if you like.

These are the things God has revealed to us by His Spirit.

But,before we discuss,do you believe what is being said?...thanks.

If you do,can I hear your interpretation then I will post mine,on what I believe Is being said.
 
May 19, 2020
3,050
1,275
113
Is the natural man here saved or not saved?

Ah,we may have a problem discussing @fredoheaven ....as you don’t know if a natural man is saved or not.

What does it say in the scripture that I posted about the natural man?

What’s your understanding of it?..thanks.
 

throughfaith

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2020
10,467
1,593
113
If we stand before God in our own righteousness we will be lost .
Phil 3.9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
 

ForestGreenCook

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2018
8,396
1,207
113
If we stand before God in our own righteousness we will be lost .
Phil 3.9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
This has nothing to do with the natural man. What's your point?