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Logic is a specific method of presenting thoughts, in the hopes of convincing other people, It has become a system thought to be a flawless method of reaching the truth. It was invented by Aristotle (and several people he drew on) about 400BC. It is strictly a human invention, and has lots of problems. There are still tribal cultures that do not know how to do it. I think what you are trying to say is that God can be accounted for logically (which is why I am asking you for your definition). That is the most we can say, since we invented logic. I'm not sure even that much is true. Paul discusses this in I Cor. 1:18 ff. Another point is, that to every denomination, their theology is logical, and all that belief does is create fights.
Technically, it is not logic that tells us the sun is at the center, it is Ockhams Razor (the prinicple that we should always take the simplest explanation). That is an arbitray choice, not necessarily a logical one. It does not even apply. Sun center is simpler in algebra, earth center in Greek geometry as seen in the Antikythera Device. Ockam's razor is sometimes thought to be logic, again a reason I was asking for your definition.
I was simply proposing a conclusion of logic, which is that any philosophical system large enough to include counting, can put forth undecidable statements, one of which is whether or not it is always true. (This is the Godel incompleteness Theorem). Basically, the proof generates the conclusion that if you want the truth, you must step outside the logical system for more data. Hence the fact that "God cannot be proven by logic" can be proven by logic.
My reason for posting it, was that I see quite a lot of argumentativeness in the threads posted by "Provemewrong", and, like anyone else at CC, I would like him to reach the truth of Jesus as soon as possible. I wanted to let him know that he is going about it the wrong way.
Technically, it is not logic that tells us the sun is at the center, it is Ockhams Razor (the prinicple that we should always take the simplest explanation). That is an arbitray choice, not necessarily a logical one. It does not even apply. Sun center is simpler in algebra, earth center in Greek geometry as seen in the Antikythera Device. Ockam's razor is sometimes thought to be logic, again a reason I was asking for your definition.
I was simply proposing a conclusion of logic, which is that any philosophical system large enough to include counting, can put forth undecidable statements, one of which is whether or not it is always true. (This is the Godel incompleteness Theorem). Basically, the proof generates the conclusion that if you want the truth, you must step outside the logical system for more data. Hence the fact that "God cannot be proven by logic" can be proven by logic.
My reason for posting it, was that I see quite a lot of argumentativeness in the threads posted by "Provemewrong", and, like anyone else at CC, I would like him to reach the truth of Jesus as soon as possible. I wanted to let him know that he is going about it the wrong way.
