The one verse of the bible I have trouble accepting

[Mary96]

Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them. Proverbs 13:24


Every time I read this verse I always say "we will see about that". I do not have children yet hopefully God will bless me with them one day. But, every time I think of "spanking" my child I feel so bad and guilty I do not want to I could never do it I would cry and cry if I did. But on the other hand I feel even more guilty about not accept this part of God's word. I grew up this way I know lots of people who did. My parents taught me from a young age A wise son heeds his father's instruction, but a mocker does not respond to rebukes. Proverbs 13:1. I know I turned out find but I just cant bring myself to accept doing this. I feel so bad about not obey God's word. I work at a preschool/daycare and the other day this girl was scream crying and wouldn't leave her mother threatened her with a spanking and it just sent chills up my spin. Does anyone know how I can get over this mind block?

 

[3Scoreand10]

Your love for your child will change your feelings.
Just remember, their is a difference between discipiline and hurting a child.

 

[Jeff_56]

GOD KNOWS. (and he is ready to heal you) (if you're willing) (he has conditions, contrary to everyone's opinion)

 

[DesiredHaven]

We are chastened of the Lord also,

It speaks of the rod of his mouth

As correction can come without a literal stick.

More or less hearing the actual rod.

 

[dcontroversal]

We are chastened of the Lord also,

It speaks of the rod of his mouth

As correction can come without a literal stick.

More or less hearing the actual rod.

This is true, but the rod is a literal stick for punishment as in a switch..........! and it also says to not spare the rod for his much crying......words do not cause children to cry, but a switch does!

 

[DesiredHaven]

This is true, but the rod is a literal stick for punishment as in a switch..........!

We will be beaten with few or more stripes wont we?

Bruises are a good thing no?

Prov 20:30 The blueness of **a wound** cleanseth away evil: so do stripes **the inward parts** of the belly.

 

[Mary96]

This is true, but the rod is a literal stick for punishment as in a switch..........! and it also says to not spare the rod for his much crying......words do not cause children to cry, but a switch does!

If my child started to cry I would cry I would so feel bad

 

[kennethcadwell]

Raising your own children is a lot different than looking and comparing to how others raise and discipline theirs.
This can only come from what God through your heart has put on you on how to react to certain situations when raising kids.
I have raised 2 boys who are now 19 and 14 and they are very well mannered and respectful, and even though I raised them with belief of spanking. Between the two of them I have only had to do it a couple of times, because I raised them to respect elders so their was hardly a issue. I am now raising a 6 month old girl so I am not that far along with her yet, but I will raise her the same way to be respectful and in love.

The other thing is that one should look at with this topic is as the world has gotten stricter in letting parents discipline their kids, even taking and not allowing spanking in some cities or states. The statistic that shows how kids now days are getting more disrespectful and not doing as they are told. The bible even states this will happen in the last days that children will become disobedient to their parents, and I just find it funny how it is following in line with the push to take discipline away from parents/adults.

 

[dcontroversal]

We will be beaten with few or more stripes wont we?

Bruises are a good thing no?

Prov 20:30 The blueness of **a wound** cleanseth away evil: so do stripes **the inward parts** of the belly.

Without a doubt, but all of the verses in the Proverbs that speak to discipline with a rod (switch) and children cannot be overlooked and or denied as they are inspired of God......I can tell you for sure that I did not like the switch, but it kept my butt in line.....I once as a child torched the clothes hanging on a line during one of my mom's yard sales with a pile of leaves under them...I went and hid for two hours and when I came out my mother marched me over and made me pick a switch....needless to say I NEVER AGAIN lit the leaves with a match under the clothes on the clothes line.......and I never got whipped again for such activity......!

 

[DesiredHaven]

Heb 12:8 But if ye be **without** chastisement, whereof all are partakers,
then are ye bastards, and not sons

Not like a child or son left to himself

Prov 13:24 He that spareth his rod ***hateth his son***
but ***he that loveth him*** chasteneth him betimes.

Paul shows an example between them

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence:
shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, AND LIVEEEEEE?

Prov 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child:
for if thou beatest him with the rod,he shall NOT DIEEEEEE.

1Cr 11:32 But when we **are judged**, we **are chastened of** the Lord,
that we should not BE CONDEMNEDDDDD with the world

Emphasis mine

 

[dcontroversal]

Raising your own children is a lot different than looking and comparing to how others raise and discipline theirs.
This can only come from what God through your heart has put on you on how to react to certain situations when raising kids.
I have raised 2 boys who are now 19 and 14 and they are very well mannered and respectful, and even though I raised them with belief of spanking. Between the two of them I have only had to do it a couple of times, because I raised them to respect elders so their was hardly a issue. I am now raising a 6 month old girl so I am not that far along with her yet, but I will raise her the same way to be respectful and in love.

The other thing is that one should look at with this topic is as the world has gotten stricter in letting parents discipline their kids, even taking and not allowing spanking in some cities or states. The statistic that shows how kids now days are getting more disrespectful and not doing as they are told. The bible even states this will happen in the last days that children will become disobedient to their parents, and I just find it funny how it is following in line with the push to take discipline away from parents/adults.

I agree for sure........and that is exactly why children are disobedient...no discipline!

 

[Mary96]

Without a doubt, but all of the verses in the Proverbs that speak to discipline with a rod (switch) and children cannot be overlooked and or denied as they are inspired of God......I can tell you for sure that I did not like the switch, but it kept my butt in line.....I once as a child torched the clothes hanging on a line during one of my mom's yard sales with a pile of leaves under them...I went and hid for two hours and when I came out my mother marched me over and made me pick a switch....needless to say I NEVER AGAIN lit the leaves with a match under the clothes on the clothes line.......and I never got whipped again for such activity......!

I could never spank my child let alone switch my husband will have to do it

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them. Proverbs 13:24


Every time I read this verse I always say "we will see about that". I do not have children yet hopefully God will bless me with them one day. But, every time I think of "spanking" my child I feel so bad and guilty I do not want to I could never do it I would cry and cry if I did. But on the other hand I feel even more guilty about not accept this part of God's word. I grew up this way I know lots of people who did. My parents taught me from a young age A wise son heeds his father's instruction, but a mocker does not respond to rebukes. Proverbs 13:1. I know I turned out find but I just cant bring myself to accept doing this. I feel so bad about not obey God's word. I work at a preschool/daycare and the other day this girl was scream crying and wouldn't leave her mother threatened her with a spanking and it just sent chills up my spin. Does anyone know how I can get over this mind block?

May it be so that one day God blesses you with children.
That being said,.......
perhaps a child does not need the rod of punishment until they are of an age of understanding as to why they are being punished.

Ephesians 6:4
And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

 

[DesiredHaven]

I believe folks ought to get beat with a rod in churches as well.

Afterall Paul says,

1Cr 4:21 What will ye? shall I come unto you with a rod,
or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

Paul was literally beaten by rods of the Jews three times

2 Cr 11:26 Thrice wasI beaten with rods, once was I stoned,
thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;

Jews believed in the rod being something you get beaten with physically

They should bring it back really, might do the churches some good

(( ducks and runs ))

 

[DesiredHaven]

Prov 23:13 Withhold not correction from the child:
for if thou beatest him with the rod,[SUP]H7626[/SUP]
he shall not die.

Rod for a child here defined as




1 Cr 4:21 What will ye?
shall I come unto you with a rod,[SUP]G4464[/SUP]
or in love, and in the spirit of meekness?

Rod for the church as defined here



2 Cr 11:25 Thrice was I beaten with rods,[SUP]G4463[/SUP]
once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck,
a night and a day I have been in the deep;

Rods of the Jews Paul was beaten with



That which Paul would come to them with shows the same kind of rod used with a child, although the one used by the Jews to beat the younowhat out of him was just rods to beat him up with.

Although, someone can beat you up verbally,

But a rod of iron must hurt worse then a stick huh?

 

[Angela53510]

Some children don't need to be spanked. My daughter never did. She was just so naturally compliant and obedient.

My boys were pretty rambunctious, and they did need a lot of correction. My husband did a lot of the discipling, but I took the wooden spoon to them on occasion.

They were hockey players, and it got to be a joke when I tried to spank them. I would usually break the spoon, and they would end up laughing hysterically. Tough bottoms, no doubt about it! LOL

So don't worry about them crying. It is all about getting them to listen and obey, in the end.

 

[psychomom]

Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them. Proverbs 13:24


Every time I read this verse I always say "we will see about that". I do not have children yet hopefully God will bless me with them one day. But, every time I think of "spanking" my child I feel so bad and guilty I do not want to I could never do it I would cry and cry if I did. But on the other hand I feel even more guilty about not accept this part of God's word. I grew up this way I know lots of people who did. My parents taught me from a young age A wise son heeds his father's instruction, but a mocker does not respond to rebukes. Proverbs 13:1. I know I turned out find but I just cant bring myself to accept doing this. I feel so bad about not obey God's word. I work at a preschool/daycare and the other day this girl was scream crying and wouldn't leave her mother threatened her with a spanking and it just sent chills up my spin. Does anyone know how I can get over this mind block?

why not wait till you're faced with it?

many children respond very well to simple reasoning.
5 of our 6 either were never spanked, or only once or twice.

you make rules, be sure the kids know what they are, and what the consequence will be if they break them.
a swift smack on the bottom does a lot less damage than some words parents speak.

and yes, if you ever spank your child, be prepared to go into a room alone to cry after you comfort them and reassure them you love them.
it's one of the costs of loving them.

 

[psychomom]

I could never spank my child let alone switch my husband will have to do it

final thought...wouldn't you rather use an implement of some sort?
so your child knows not to fear your hand coming at them?

 

[gb9]

well, I was at a home improvement store this morning, waiting to get some flooring cut. there was a lady with 2 boys, probably about 6 and 4 waiting on the same thing. the kids were running everywhere, climbing on anything they could, knocked a display over, and the lady did nothing. wise discipline would correct that behavior, as the mother stood around and did nothing.

 

[Mary96]

final thought...wouldn't you rather use an implement of some sort?
so your child knows not to fear your hand coming at them?

no i dont want to spank them