Re: The Very Phony Evangelism of Arminianism
Well, I don't know how you are going to prove that. If Arminianism is by definition non-Christian, you may have a shot at it. I didn't start this thread. To me instead of going on about Calvinists, one should just define the doctrines, true & false. I just change the thread to Arminian as a touché. Now if you will tell me what your -ism is, I can change the title to "The Phony Evangelism of Maxwel Smart."
If you deny being a Calvinist, I have no idea what you mean except that you probably don't believe in some of the TULIP -- maybe you deny it all & think that all our righteousnesses are as unfilthy linen.
But it is a false "gospel" to relegate Christ to the role of "chance-giver," and deny that He actually saves.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.
That's my point.
You have no idea what people with an opposing view even really believe...
and yet you tear into them, viciously, as if you do.
Calvinists often take a broad brush, and just label EVERYONE who isn't one of them as an Arminian.
It reminds me of an old farmer I once met.
Every time he met a short brown person, he called the person a Mexican.
Yep.
People from Cuba, Argentina, Philippines... he just called them all Mexicans.
And do you know what the result was?
He was just showing his ignorance.
All of those people just thought he was an ignorant fool.
Some Calvinists do the same thing with the label of "Arminian".
They use it indiscriminately, and without any thought at all.
And as you just admitted...
if someone is NOT a Calvinist, you really have no idea what they really believe.
Well... maybe you should find out before tearing into them?
Before I started debating the topic of Calvinism, I tried to AT LEAST learn about the other position, and learn how to discuss it respectfully.
And after much study of Calvinism, this is my conclusion:
Although some Calvinists are completely obnoxious (as are some people in the opposing camp) I would NEVER call Calvinists heretics, or say they aren't my brothers and sisters in Christ. I strongly disagree with Calvinism, but Calvinists are my brothers and sisters, and I think I can spend my time more wisely than using it to beat my own brothers and sisters into a bloody pulp.
Really.
D. James Kennedy strongly disagrees with MY point of view, but as strongly as he disagrees, I've heard him discuss my position very respectfully, as a brother in Christ.
I think we can do better guys.
I really do.