The Problem of Evil
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From the Thread on this Forum (post-dating this thread):
* Suffering exists
* Suffering has a cause
* Suffering is caused by: (Ignorance of or Arrogance toward):
* our reaction to flesh (senses and mind) - ID
* our desire and craving to satisfy the flesh and the mind -- materialism,
worldliness, sensory pleasures, temporal pleasures, emotion -- EGO
* THE GOOD NEWS:* our desire and craving to satisfy the flesh and the mind -- materialism,
worldliness, sensory pleasures, temporal pleasures, emotion -- EGO
* Suffering can be avoided or overcome by understanding these simple causes of suffering,
and coming to a knowledge of the path of Right Living which is denial of self, love of godly
principles put into the mind and action, and the love of others just as Jesus stated. It is --
THE WAY.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qylM9qVeGfc[/video]
People procreate unthinkingly in response to their ID and EGO desires. They then live in
swamps, flood plains, hurricane zones, tornado alley and on the top of fault lines. Nature
takes it's natural course, and 'disaster' occurs. An earthquake where no one lives does no
damage, but people are hell bent on living there anyway.
Sowing to the wind reaps the whirlwind.
People procreate unthinkingly into a magic socio-economic system where paper money is
a god. Drought, resource abuse (conspicuous consumption) occurs, people lose their
homes, their food supply, their water supply -- suffering ensues.
America has a 40 percent illegitimacy rate, over 20 million illegal immigrants (and their
near-term offspring) mostly for the satiation of unnecessary worldly pleasures (lettuce
and tomato on you McWhatver). The government offers them free medical care and a
government education into the marxist-facist work system. The people immigrate to a
nation with no moral or legal system of regard, and fall into the same ammoral and often
immoral behaviors that the government and media have set up. America is a nation that
has aborted 45 Million children in one generation, and has sex disease apparently so
rampant that governors of 17+ states and their counterpart drug companies, have
mandated sex drugs for sixth grade girls. The pyramid [scam] grows, but as with any
Ponzi scheme, it catches up to itself, and the house of card teeters and wobbles as a sign
of an impending crash. Those children are bused to school in dies-el powered yellow
submarines in a nation of increasing asthma and other respiratory diseases. These same
immigrants drive dies-el powered trucks across the country to deliver twinkies and
ho-ho's and devil dogs, and oh yeah, your lettuce and tomato to Ronald McDonald.
Shipments of foodstuffs, widgets, gadgets and whatcha-macallits from all over the world,
much made at the hands of child or near slave-labor sweat shops pour into the nations
port cities (wasn't Corinth that way?).
We worship BAAL in it's many forms of Holidays, Music, Sports, Entertainment and
Materialism. The money changers on [the wailing] WALL Street, who's Icon is a bull,
manipulate data and paper as if it is real, then 'bail out' at the top end of the pyramid,
engorged on their gluttonous buffet of hedonism. A world bank is developed and a United
Nations is set up to move material, people, money all around the world in GE made jet
engines and Boeing air buses. Chaos ensues. Chronos responds with regulations, law,
armed guards in the streets, rationing, government made 'jobs' programs leading to a
mixed socialism-facism and the people withdraw. Zeus enters, war is the cleansing
mechanism for the evil, the greed, pride, lust and other de-mons of man.
My previous post addresses the nature and cause that leads to these things.
Omnipotent - yes, Omniscient - yes, Omni-Benevolent - No. There is no promise of omni-benevolent, so you start off with a false premise.
The three are: Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omni-present.
Omnipotent and Omni-Benevolent: Evil happens because God is unaware evil is happening.
You make up a magic god and lay all your doings on that god. This too is a false premise.
God is spirit and dwells within a person who is so moved and who accepts the presence of
God. God has revealed his will and his plan for man, and simply asks obedience of the
precepts of behavior.
Omniscient + Omni- Benevolent: Evil happens because God can not stop evil
Again, the magic-god syndrome - false premise. Evil exists in the hearts and minds of
men, either untrained, or unrestrained in their behaviors. A disobedience to the
precepts. There is no promise of omni-benevolent, rather it is omni-presence, the spirit is
always available to those who turn on, tune in and listen up.
Omnipotent + Omniscient : Evil happens because God wither doesn't care if humans suffer, or WANTS humans to suffer.
Again, the magic-god syndrome - false premise. God has revealed his will and plan, and
asks obedience to the precepts of behavior that avoids or overcomes suffering. God
cared enough to reveal this plan, to distinguish that which is good, from that which is evil,
and asks, for our own good, that we obey.
Simple concept is, that sowing and reaping yield to natural law. We reap as we sow. By
grace, there are periods of forgiveness or in which sin is not punished immediately. There
is a time element (chronos), just as a chron-ic disease takes time to manifest itself. One
engages in behaviors, social, physical, behavioral for a time, and seems to see no
consequence, then one finds ones self addicted, or with a terminal disease and death is
crouching at the door.
And the times of this ignoranceGodwinked at; but now
commandeth all men every where to repent: Acts 17:30
commandeth all men every where to repent: Acts 17:30
good post DA.
but chaos has always been the deliberate means to the end, out of which comes the "new" world order.
global marxism/facism (ultimately with theocracy) only comes about through that continual upheavel (enter Darwin).
the masses, sinners that they are also, are kept ignorant and moved around like chess pieces by that small group of inbred psychopathic families, so i reckon that's one reason The Lord is merciful to the poor and downtrodden.
as hard a pill as it may be to swallow, the degradation of america (and britain etc) is a carefully orchestrated take-down.
what to do about it? i do not know.
you've probably seen the film The Corporation, DA. if not, i seriously recommend it. for everyone.
zone.
THE CORPORATION [1/23] What is a Corporation?
1. The Corporation is today's dominant institution, creating great wealth but also great harm. This 26 award-winning documentary examines the nature, evolution, impacts and future of the modern business corporation and the increasing role it plays in society and our everyday lives.
For a playlist of all 23 chapters in order, please click on:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA50FBC214A6CE87
btw: still on the topic of the problem of evil, i wonder what's more evil than than a global lying propaganda campaign to turn neighbour against neighbour. look how easily the US/Mexico thing has been managed....even you are pointing to it as the source rather than a means.
look at this ridiculously obvious mind control:
10 Year Commemoration 9-11
uh......what? ok...."white al quaeda"
but that was always the plan. start with tim osmon...i mean bin laden, then bait & switch so the enemy look like the woman on the dvd cover.
"if you see something, say something" janet napolitano, DHS
gotta get that stazi up and running for the final take-down of america.
what a tragedy. pure evil.
Mark 13:12
And brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death.
but chaos has always been the deliberate means to the end, out of which comes the "new" world order.
global marxism/facism (ultimately with theocracy) only comes about through that continual upheavel (enter Darwin).
the masses, sinners that they are also, are kept ignorant and moved around like chess pieces by that small group of inbred psychopathic families, so i reckon that's one reason The Lord is merciful to the poor and downtrodden.
as hard a pill as it may be to swallow, the degradation of america (and britain etc) is a carefully orchestrated take-down.
what to do about it? i do not know.
you've probably seen the film The Corporation, DA. if not, i seriously recommend it. for everyone.
zone.
THE CORPORATION [1/23] What is a Corporation?
1. The Corporation is today's dominant institution, creating great wealth but also great harm. This 26 award-winning documentary examines the nature, evolution, impacts and future of the modern business corporation and the increasing role it plays in society and our everyday lives.
For a playlist of all 23 chapters in order, please click on:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA50FBC214A6CE87
btw: still on the topic of the problem of evil, i wonder what's more evil than than a global lying propaganda campaign to turn neighbour against neighbour. look how easily the US/Mexico thing has been managed....even you are pointing to it as the source rather than a means.
look at this ridiculously obvious mind control:
10 Year Commemoration 9-11
uh......what? ok...."white al quaeda"
but that was always the plan. start with tim osmon...i mean bin laden, then bait & switch so the enemy look like the woman on the dvd cover.
"if you see something, say something" janet napolitano, DHS
gotta get that stazi up and running for the final take-down of america.
what a tragedy. pure evil.
Mark 13:12
And brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death.
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xphineasx, something to consider.
The first sin was disobedience, because Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowladge of good and evil.
Just something to think about.
God bless.
pickles
The first sin was disobedience, because Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowladge of good and evil.
Just something to think about.
God bless.
pickles
Eve ate the forbidden fruit; however, according to my interpretation of
the events in the Garden, the first truly unrighteous act was when
Adam told his wife that GOD had said they could not eat, nor touch
the forbidden fruit, or they would surley die (physically, implied). This
was the subtlety of the 'serpent' (who was the man Adam), and the
reason Eve was deceived, because she had no reason to suspect that
Adam would lie or would deceive her. Furthermore, the reason he told
her that they could not eat, was so he might convinve her to eat once
he touched it first but did not die, as she beleived was the truth.
This is why one should never add to, nor dimish from the Truth.
(Deut, Rev)
I had always wondered if it was the act or the fruit that gave them the nowladge, One sees this in children, where they have been told what is wrong, but they lift their hand to it to test.
Yet one sees in their eyes the choice to test was the knowladge.
Lots to think about here, Maby discuss more later.
God bless.
pickles
Yet one sees in their eyes the choice to test was the knowladge.
Lots to think about here, Maby discuss more later.
God bless.
pickles