The Question Evolutionists Can't Answer

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renewedfaith1964

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This question surely isn't intended to inflame. It's just something that I can never get an answer too. Whenever I ask it, people usually point me to an article or book. I want anybody who believes in evolution to tell me five things about evolution that you know is true.
 
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I can't come up with any. so far if the science can't answer, neither the religion.
 
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This question surely isn't intended to inflame. It's just something that I can never get an answer too. Whenever I ask it, people usually point me to an article or book. I want anybody who believes in evolution to tell me five things about evolution that you know is true.
I don't know enough about Evolution to even attempt this lol. But your qualifier is a bit unfair. Because if someone was asked to name 5 things about religion that were true then all answers would come from a book.
 
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megaman125

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I'm not an evolutionist, but I'll help them out to get this thread rollin for you.

1. Evolutionists know that dinosaurs evolved into chickens.
2. The first single celled organism reproduced asexually, then evolved and branched off into animals that reproduce sexually.
3. Whales and bats have a common ancestor since they're both mammals.
4. Life began in the water than evolved to have legs and lungs to come up on land.
5. Fossils we have of animals that are still alive today "stopped evolving" because they already reached their peak perfection in evolution.

There you go, 5 things that evolutionists definetly know are true.
 
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Hang on Megaman.. You left out one thing...

MILLIONS OF YEARS!
 
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renewedfaith1964

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Here are several reasons why I think evolution can't be true:


1. Ex Nihilo, nihil fit. "Out of nothing, nothing comes." Scientists agree that 13.7 billion years ago there was, quite literally, nothing. No atoms, protons, neurons, etc. Nothing. There is no scientific explanation for how something can grow out of nothing. To me, it's just common sense. If there was a point when nothing existed, then there was no scientific way for that to change.


2. It defies logic. How does green slime turn itself into an African elephant, fire ant, or cockroach? It doesn't. Nowhere in the universe do we see this taking place. Heck, man cannot even do this with all of his brain power. And we're to believe that a gob of goo with no brain, no construction manual, and no guidance, built itself into entities and creatures that are vastly superior in function than anything man can make.


3. The first cell. A simple cell consists of about 10 million parts. Putting aside the fact that there never was any matter from which a cell could be self-created, how did this cell assemble all of its 10 million parts into working order? Again, it had no brain, so it could not have sat there and figure this out. Also, a cell burns energy. What would this first cell consume to ensure that it had energy to get up and running? It's like making a car and then realizing you have no gas. Also, why would this cell suddenly decide that it wanted to start splitting itself in two. And here's the real kicker: the original cell HAD to have DNA inside it to perpetuate itself. Where did this DNA lab come from, complete with its ability to automatically self-replicate itself?


4. The Cambrian Explosion. 99.9% of all living things showed up in the fossil record a virtually the same time, already fully formed. There is no steady progress in the fossil record to contradict this. Evolutionists realize this problem and have come up with what they call "Punctuated Equilibrium." That's a fancy way for saying that fully-functioning creatures suddenly just appeared in the fossil record. That is hocus-pocus to the highest order.


5. How did evolution survive the death of dinosaurs? When dinosaurs died, the rest of the planet went with it. How did it all come back in such a short time?
 
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Here are several reasons why I think evolution can't be true:


1. Ex Nihilo, nihil fit. "Out of nothing, nothing comes." Scientists agree that 13.7 billion years ago there was, quite literally, nothing. No atoms, protons, neurons, etc. Nothing. There is no scientific explanation for how something can grow out of nothing. To me, it's just common sense. If there was a point when nothing existed, then there was no scientific way for that to change.


2. It defies logic. How does green slime turn itself into an African elephant, fire ant, or cockroach? It doesn't. Nowhere in the universe do we see this taking place. Heck, man cannot even do this with all of his brain power. And we're to believe that a gob of goo with no brain, no construction manual, and no guidance, built itself into entities and creatures that are vastly superior in function than anything man can make.


3. The first cell. A simple cell consists of about 10 million parts. Putting aside the fact that there never was any matter from which a cell could be self-created, how did this cell assemble all of its 10 million parts into working order? Again, it had no brain, so it could not have sat there and figure this out. Also, a cell burns energy. What would this first cell consume to ensure that it had energy to get up and running? It's like making a car and then realizing you have no gas. Also, why would this cell suddenly decide that it wanted to start splitting itself in two. And here's the real kicker: the original cell HAD to have DNA inside it to perpetuate itself. Where did this DNA lab come from, complete with its ability to automatically self-replicate itself?


4. The Cambrian Explosion. 99.9% of all living things showed up in the fossil record a virtually the same time, already fully formed. There is no steady progress in the fossil record to contradict this. Evolutionists realize this problem and have come up with what they call "Punctuated Equilibrium." That's a fancy way for saying that fully-functioning creatures suddenly just appeared in the fossil record. That is hocus-pocus to the highest order.


5. How did evolution survive the death of dinosaurs? When dinosaurs died, the rest of the planet went with it. How did it all come back in such a short time?
And because you don't know the answers to these questions, you'll settle for the God of Gaps instead?
 

notuptome

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And because you don't know the answers to these questions, you'll settle for the God of Gaps instead?
God whose habitation is eternity is not constrained by time.

If evolution were true then the world's population would be less than one percent of what it is today. The rest being too stupid to live long enough to reproduce.

For the cause of Christ
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This question surely isn't intended to inflame. It's just something that I can never get an answer too. Whenever I ask it, people usually point me to an article or book. I want anybody who believes in evolution to tell me five things about evolution that you know is true.
Why don't you actually read a book on evolution?
Why Evolution Is True: Jerry A. Coyne: 9780143116646: Amazon.com: Books

Or go to an evolutionary biology forum and ask questions? All you're gonna get
here is confirmation bias. Confirmation bias - RationalWiki
 
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renewedfaith1964

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Why don't you actually read a book on evolution?
Why Evolution Is True: Jerry A. Coyne: 9780143116646: Amazon.com: Books

Or go to an evolutionary biology forum and ask questions? All you're gonna get
here is confirmation bias. Confirmation bias - RationalWiki
I have read many book and many articles. My goal is to challenge evolutionists to think on their own. Once they do, they'll realize that it's a bunch on unmitigated nonsense. Consider the following:

Let's look at humans. One day, there was a cell. Nobody can explain how it built itself. Suddenly, it started dividing (for reasons unexplained). Eventually, there were 3 trillion cells in one area. Even though these cells had no cognitive ability, they hatched a plan. "Let's all 3 trillion of us hold hands and turn ourselves into a human. You 500,000,000 cells go up top and turn yourselves into the brain. Make yourselves super smart. You 200,000,000 turn yourselves into the heart. You 100,000, 000 turn yourselves into a liver. We're going to need to eat (even though there's no food), so we'll need to have a system in place than can filter our food. You 250,000,000 turn yourselves into a stomach. Make sure you teach yourselves how do break down food. Then, make sure you have 3 trillion waiters ready to feed every cell in our new body, because we all need to eat. As for you remaining cells, make yourselves useful and turn yourselves into eyes, a nose, a mouth, teeth, hands, feet, toes, etc. Oh, and make sure to make yourselves aesthetically pleasing. Any questions? Okay, go for it."
 
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I agree, a lot of things cannot be explained. But your god of gaps theory is no better or worse than the theory of evolution. Do you think for yourself? Or did a book point you towards what you believe?
 
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One thing that evolution has never been successful at answering for me is when people started to wear animal skins to protect themselves from the weather.

Sidenote, I am not a Young Earth Creationist.*
 

T_Laurich

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And because you don't know the answers to these questions, you'll settle for the God of Gaps instead?
I love when non-Christians point to the Christian God as a god of the gaps... Because by definition the Christian God cannot be a god of the gaps... For example a god of the gaps is subject to the universe, like Zeus castes down lightning, but once we found out how lightning works Zeus was no longer needed...

But the Christian God is the creator, so every answer points to Him, the creator...

I know he does not do a good job getting around the god of the gaps theory... But to signify that the Christian God can be the god of the gaps is completely wrong...

The only possible way the Christian God can be the god of the gaps is in the form of 'how the universe was made'...

So I don't think you should keep on saying that this man believes in a god of the gaps.. (If he is Christian which his profile says he is...)
 
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Fair comment, but the weight of his argument seems to be that evolution cannot explain this... So there for it must be god.
 

T_Laurich

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Fair comment, but the weight of his argument seems to be that evolution cannot explain this... So there for it must be god.
I understand completely... He did do a poor job articulating the argument to put aside the god of the gaps claim...

But his intention in my opinion, is not to make God the answer, but to question what the evolutionists claim that evolution can answer...
 
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I have read many book and many articles. My goal is to challenge evolutionists to think on their own. Once they do, they'll realize that it's a bunch on unmitigated nonsense. Consider the following:

Let's look at humans. One day, there was a cell. Nobody can explain how it built itself. Suddenly, it started dividing (for reasons unexplained). Eventually, there were 3 trillion cells in one area. Even though these cells had no cognitive ability, they hatched a plan. "Let's all 3 trillion of us hold hands and turn ourselves into a human. You 500,000,000 cells go up top and turn yourselves into the brain. Make yourselves super smart. You 200,000,000 turn yourselves into the heart. You 100,000, 000 turn yourselves into a liver. We're going to need to eat (even though there's no food), so we'll need to have a system in place than can filter our food. You 250,000,000 turn yourselves into a stomach. Make sure you teach yourselves how do break down food. Then, make sure you have 3 trillion waiters ready to feed every cell in our new body, because we all need to eat. As for you remaining cells, make yourselves useful and turn yourselves into eyes, a nose, a mouth, teeth, hands, feet, toes, etc. Oh, and make sure to make yourselves aesthetically pleasing. Any questions? Okay, go for it."
That's one big strawman argument.
 
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I understand completely... He did do a poor job articulating the argument to put aside the god of the gaps claim...

But his intention in my opinion, is not to make God the answer, but to question what the evolutionists claim that evolution can answer...
Well that's fair enough. I also await these replies :)
 
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One thing that evolution has never been successful at answering for me is when people started to wear animal skins to protect themselves from the weather.

Sidenote, I am not a Young Earth Creationist.*
Why on Earth would you think that evolution needs to answer why people wear
clothes? You answered the question yourself "people started to wear animal
skins to protect themselves from the weather".

What does that have to do with evolution by natural selection?
 
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megaman125

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Hang on Megaman.. You left out one thing...

MILLIONS OF YEARS!
Actually, I did list that within the first couple, but then took it out because I wanted millions of years to have it's own line. Then by the time I finished, I forgot to put in the millions of years.