the rapture

[fontaine143]

So I want to learn a little bit more about the Rapture from what I read I'm starting to see a lot of signs in the world I like what I message was church the other day it was are you living a Christian life outside of church are you going with the Rapture are you staying even though you go to church doesn't mean you're always living the word.plese help by answering whats the mark of the beast really mean.and our we not gonna be able to eat and stuff

 

[Willie-T]

Oh, good grief.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[popeye]

So I want to learn a little bit more about the Rapture from what I read I'm starting to see a lot of signs in the world I like what I message was church the other day it was are you living a Christian life outside of church are you going with the Rapture are you staying even though you go to church doesn't mean you're always living the word.plese help by answering whats the mark of the beast really mean.and our we not gonna be able to eat and stuff

Read mat 25. The ten virgins.

That dynamic changes the panoramic picture big time.

The whole of end times,THE WHOLE THING,is pointing to two"apexes".

1,the gathering (which is several"raptures")

2,the establishment of Davids throne.

Tha Gt,theAC,the mark,the judgment,all are avenues,pointers,and stepping stones surrounding GOD'S PURPOSES.

Many,many truths are unpacked ny playing the scenario backwards.

 

[popeye]

Purpose.

What does the mark do?

(what is the good it does for the kingdom of God?)

 

[popeye]

Never study end times from any position outside heavens perspective.

The gathering,and David's throne.

I am appalled at the percentage of "students" of the word that NEVER invoke the heart of heaven

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Meditating with BLB...... Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Yet]

Oh, good grief.

Oh good grief Willie, I feel the love of Christ just oozing out of you all over. Your something else, you know it.

What if this person is a newbie? These are legitimate questions we've all had in the beginning. And you stand like a king and your arrogant smart mouth to put them down, making them feel like a slug. God help the poor guy that walks into your den of thieves and has to face your smirky attitude. If it was me, I'd never, in a million years come back to your Phariseeville den!

You really need to find a place to repent of your high minded 'I'm better than thou' stuck on yourself mindset.


Im sorry Fontaine for this guy. Much of the church is like this. Find a few believers that are outcasts and meet in your home. 'Where 2 or 3 are gathered in My Name, I will be in their midst'. That's the TRUE assembly. He's no longer in the organized church of the dead!

 

[blue_ladybug]

Meditating with BLB...... Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

lolz..............

 

[Willie-T]

You don't research much, do you, "Yet?" This is the same guy trolling with the "I wanna be a preacher, 'cause I like to talk a lot." post.

 

[Yet]

You don't research much, do you, "Yet?" This is the same guy trolling with the "I wanna be a preacher, 'cause I like to talk a lot." post.

Well then I stand corrected. I missed this guy. Please accept my heart felt, humble, humilified, prostrate apology. But you still ate arrogant. Smile!

 

[JGIG]

So I want to learn a little bit more about the Rapture from what I read I'm starting to see a lot of signs in the world I like what I message was church the other day it was are you living a Christian life outside of church are you going with the Rapture are you staying even though you go to church doesn't mean you're always living the word.plese help by answering whats the mark of the beast really mean.and our we not gonna be able to eat and stuff

As you study, remember this:

25 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloudwith power and great glory.

28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

29 He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. 30 When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. 31 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. (from Luke 21)​

"Stand up and lift up your heads . . . " This is not a stance of fear - End Times theology which instills fear in the believer is to be rejected.

Filter everything you hear and read through the lens of the Work of Christ -

• Who Jesus is
• What He came to do
• What that actually accomplished
• How the Permanent High Priesthood of Christ allows or disallows for certain theologies (The New Covenant is Permanently in place because of the Permanent High Priesthood of Christ - Old Covenant sacrifices and feasts are never coming back unless established by man and as such will be an abomination to the High Priesthood of Christ)
• Who those who believe in Christ are in Him

There is NO FEAR in Christ.

If you are in Christ, YOU ARE READY for whatever may come.

There are LOTS of theories about how the Final Things will come to pass - don't be snookered - NO ONE has is all figured out. People who keep telling you to 'get ready, you better get ready!' - their theologies should be avoided.

Again, if you are in Christ, you ARE ready. Rest in Him, let Him produce His Fruit in you so that you can be an instrument in His Hand to help the LOST to get ready \o/!

Like much of prophecy, we'll look back on the Scriptures from their fulfilled side and say, "Oh, that's what God meant when He said that in that particular way!"

Beware of those with extra-biblical future-telling 'prophecy'. In the New Covenant, prophecy is clearly defined to provide these things:

3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. (from 1 Cor. 14)​

If the prophecy you're hearing does not meet those criteria, toss it.

And for your last question, Jesus, in His resurrected body, did eat, so I'm guessing we will, too .

Grace and peace to you,
-JGIG

 

[KohenMatt]

I don't believe in a rapture. But if it happens, great. Regardless, it shouldn't change the way I live one bit.

I don't care much about any sort of "mark of the beast." I care more about having the mark of God.

 

[Blain]

I do not have a stance on the rapture or rather the timing on of it but it is going to happen regardless. The harvest the gathering the ascending these are all references of the rapture and while I can understand wanting to go home and being with Jesus people take this blessed hope to far sometimes. It's good to have that hope but when you focus to much on it then you begin to become obsessed with it and then your reason for the rapture is not really to be with God anymore but just to escape this world and go home.

I would love to finally be with God more than anything I want to be with him but i'm not gonna stop living this life for him because I think the rapture is gonna happen.
Mathew 9:37
Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few;

John 4:35 Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, then comes the harvest’? Look, I tell you, lift up your eyes, and see that the fields are white for harvest.

Proverbs 10:5 He who gathers in summer is a prudent son, but he who sleeps in harvest is a son who brings shame.

 

[LORDOFHOSTS]

You're wasting your time. There's no such thing. It never ceases to amaze me how believers and nonbelievers want to study nothing else but end time events, trying to make head nor tail of it, only to end up confused. I only believe in the second coming of the Lord. All Paul is talking about is what will transpire at the second coming. Not a separate event.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Everyone believes in the rapture\ gathering together, don't they? They all just believe it happens at different times within the Revelation...

 

[MarcR]

So I want to learn a little bit more about the Rapture from what I read I'm starting to see a lot of signs in the world I like what I message was church the other day it was are you living a Christian life outside of church are you going with the Rapture are you staying even though you go to church doesn't mean you're always living the word.plese help by answering whats the mark of the beast really mean.and our we not gonna be able to eat and stuff

As you have no doubt already discovered, there is much difference of opinion on whether or when the rapture will occur.

John 16:33
33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
KJV

Rom 8:14-21
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
KJV


IMO, these verses assure us that while we, the Church, may experience tribulation and pain from people; we will NOT endure the wrath of God.

So then, it seems to me that the rapture must occur before the wrath of God is unleashed after the seventh seal of Rev 8:1 is opened.

After the sixth seal is opened Rev 6:12, but before the seventh seal is opened Rev 8:1; John observes Rev 7:9
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
KJV

I believe that the sudden appearance in heaven of this great multitude from all nations is the result of the rapture.

I believe that the microchips inserted in all credit and debit cards are precursors to chips that will be implanted in people; without which people will not be able to buy or sell. I believe that these implants are in fact the mark of the beast.

I believe that the first five seals have already been opened and that the opening of the sixth seal is immanent.

 

[popeye]

You don't research much, do you, "Yet?" This is the same guy trolling with the "I wanna be a preacher, 'cause I like to talk a lot." post.

He (f 143),has indeed consistently started threads with the subject matter of himself,then has never replied to anyone,ever.

 

[notuptome]

You're wasting your time. There's no such thing. It never ceases to amaze me how believers and nonbelievers want to study nothing else but end time events, trying to make head nor tail of it, only to end up confused. I only believe in the second coming of the Lord. All Paul is talking about is what will transpire at the second coming. Not a separate event.

Wow what a persuasive argument. You said it and that's it. Does it even matter to you that God disagrees with you?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Ahwatukee]

It never ceases to amaze me how believers and nonbelievers want to study nothing else but end time events, trying to make head nor tail of it, only to end up confused.

You just provided a perfect example of why we need to study end-time events.