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Ahwatukee

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MORE INFO ON THE COMING HUMAN RFID CHIPS:


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Thanks for sharing VCO. I'm sure and have known that this device will evolve to something smaller or more applicable, like that tattoo version. Whatever it evolves into, what will remain consistent is that it will go on/in the hand or the forehead by the time the antichrist/beast arrives.

We are surely living in exciting and amazing times, as we are seeing prophesies being fulfilled regarding that coming mark, which demonstrates that we are that last generation and the gathering of the church is right around the near corner.
 

VCO

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That makes no sense to me, you don't even know whether the number is 666 or 616 but you know who had the mark. Which number did you count to identify the man?

Let me tell you a true story, of how SOME PEOPLE, carry that PHOBIA of 666 clear over into SUPERSTITION. I used to be a Volunteer Protestant Chaplain in the super-max Prison that was the end of the line in the State of California. I was trying to handle the Security Housing Unit (S.H.U.) all by myself. There were 1500 imates in that HOLE, which is what the inmates called the S.H.U. I finally had to ask the head CHAPLAIN for some more Volunteers to help me, and he said, "Okay, but you will have to TRAIN them, because I do not have the time." I agreed, and soon I had a Pentecostal that I was Training. A few days after I finished training him, he got is Permanent I.D. Card. The very next day he quit and turned in his I.D. Card, because the multi-digit I.D. number had three 6's in it. He even said the number gave him the creeps so bad that he took it outside the afternoon he got it in the mail, and hid that State I.D. Card under a rock.

Like I said it is an I.D. number that identifies an individual, and each individual has a different number. ALL THESES OTHER WILD THEORIES ARE PURE SUPERSTITION. The Chinese already use an 18 digits on their I.D. Cards.

The replication occurred in the past several years when ID numbers increased from 15 digits to 18 digits, professor Wang Taiyuan with the Chinese People's Public Security University was quoted by The Mirror as saying. Overlapped ID numbers 'affect 1 million'
Like I have been saying for years, we are heading for an 18 diget I.D. system, with that number broken up into 3 groups of 6 digits.
 

Ahwatukee

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Are we there yet????
Not yet, but just keep watching, because very soon you are going to see more and more people making purchases using this technology. Hopefully then, you will understand that end-time events are future and not in the past and that the gathering of the church will take place just as scripture states. And the wrath of God via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will take place after the church has been gathered.

Just keep watching Locutus.
 
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I looked on the news and they're about to implement a small chip in the hand to buy and sell with, but I don't believe that is the mark of the beast, but it is sure preparing the way for it. When the antichrist comes into power, you'll know beyond all doubt who he is unless you are a fake Christian. I believe it will happen in our life time.
 

VCO

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Are we there yet????
No patience at all, it isn't even the end of DAY TWO YET.


2 Peter 3:8-9 (NCV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: To the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as one day.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] The Lord is not slow in doing what he promised—the way some people understand slowness. But God is being patient with you. He does not want anyone to be lost, but he wants all people to change their hearts and lives.
 
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The first Trump has come 2017 when his son runs the second Trump will come.
 

Jackson123

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I looked on the news and they're about to implement a small chip in the hand to buy and sell with, but I don't believe that is the mark of the beast, but it is sure preparing the way for it. When the antichrist comes into power, you'll know beyond all doubt who he is unless you are a fake Christian. I believe it will happen in our life time.
some people do not have a hand, doe to accident or born without hand. Bible say they put the mark oN hand or forehead.

For those that do not have a hand, the mark Will be in the forehead.
 
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Not yet, but just keep watching, because very soon you are going to see more and more people making purchases using this technology. Hopefully then, you will understand that end-time events are future and not in the past and that the gathering of the church will take place just as scripture states. And the wrath of God via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will take place after the church has been gathered.

Just keep watching Locutus.
We know this will all happen, but the sequences are not so clear, but we know that every eye will see Jesus after the sun refuses to shine.
 

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More about SMART DUST:

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Ahwatukee

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We know this will all happen, but the sequences are not so clear, but we know that every eye will see Jesus after the sun refuses to shine.
You're talking about when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. I'm talking about his appearing to gather the church, which are two different events with two different purposes.

It is this on-going lack of understanding regarding these two events, their purpose and timing that continues to causes misinterpretation of end-times. The church will not be here during the time when the antichrist/beast is revealed nor when this mark becomes the only valid source of electronic crediting and debiting.

At first it was just the electronic crediting and debiting system that has been set up and evolving. And now that we have evolved to the next level with a device going into the hand and its purpose being to make purchases, this technology can only go forward, which means that we have little time left before the Lord gathers the church.

What we are going to witness now is people beginning to use this and the number of people using it will increase by leaps and bounds! Once one company begins to use this technology, it will begin to show up at expos and seminars for business. Those HR people who attend those seminars are going to be bringing this information back to their companies and implementing this technology. Then it will spread to all businesses so that, we will start seeing people in McDonald's paying for their happy meals by the wave of their hands, debiting their bank accounts. Likewise, if someone's breaks his neighbors window, he will be able to electronically credit the amount of the window to his neighbors bank account, etc.

To put the scripture into perspective for today, buying and selling is crediting and debiting of an individuals bank account.
 
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Daniel 7:17-18 KJV
These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

[18] But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

4 kings of the earth apparently possess a kingdom and then the saints of the most high take the kingdom from the 4 kings and possess the kingdom for ever.

Is this kingdom the kingdom of God? Does Daniel 7 have anything to do with Matthew 21:43?

Matthew 21:43 KJV
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Dan 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Dan 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Daniel had a vision of 4 beasts,kingdoms,that were different than each other,which represent the 4 ways of man.Human religion,physical cruelty,human wisdom,pushing for territory-world domination.Although all 4 kingdoms had all 4 ways of man one of those ways was their chief mode of operation.

Dan 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

The first beast was Babylon,which represents human religion.They had eagle's wings because of their high revelation of the God of Israel,which king Nebuchadnezzar proclaimed throughout his kingdom that the God of Israel is the God of gods,the top God,and said if any person says anything amiss about the God of Israel,he shall be cut in pieces,and his house shall be made a dunghill.

King Belshazzar the son of king Nebuchadnezzar took the throne,and knew what his father believed,but took the vessels out of the temple of the LORD,and drank out of them praising false gods,and the eagle's wings were plucked,they lost the revelation of God,and their kingdom was given to the Medes and Persians.

Babylon then became known as the kingdom of man.

Dan 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

The second beast is Medo-Persia,which represents physical cruelty.The 3 ribs in the mouth of it are 3 nations,which could be Lydia,Babylon,and Egypt,the 3 kingdoms they conquered.

Dan 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

The third beast is Greece,which represents human wisdom.It had 4 wings of a foul,which could mean they flew above the common kingdom in higher medicine,mathematics,science,philosophy,or it could mean 4 territories a general ruled,and they had 4 heads,and dominion was given to it,which when Alexander the Great died his kingdom was split in to 4 sections,and a general ruled each section.

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

The fourth kingdom is the Roman Empire,which represents pushing for dominion,world domination,and it was diverse from the other beasts,for it was the most determined to conquer,and gain territory,and power.It had 10 horns,which is the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The man of sin,the beast,comes from the ten horns,which the Bible says the prince to come is from the people that overthrew Jerusalem,the Roman Empire.It plucked up 3 horns by the roots,nuclear weapons,the 6th trumpet(Revelation 9),and the eyes of man,for his kingdom acknowledges no personal God,and in to spiritutal evolution,and honoring the God of forces,the power of nature as their higher power.

Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

The Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until God puts them down in the future.The rest of the beasts will never have dominion again,but their ways are still on earth,and show up at the beast kingdom.Since Babylon is known for human religion,and the kingdom of man,the beast kingdom in Revelation 13 has the spirit of Babylon,for it is the kingdom of man,and based on the occult,nature worship,and witchcraft.

Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

The Roman Empire has the dominion,with the ways of the leopard,Greece-human wisdom,the ways of the bear,Medo-Persia-physical cruelty,and the ways of the lion,Babylon-human religion,the kingdom of man.

In Daniel chapter 7 the 4 beasts went by the 4 ways of man,but one of those ways was their chief mode of operation,where the other modes of operation were minor to the chief mode in whatever ratio they were.

That means at that time none of the kingdoms were the kingdom of man in its entirety,but believed in a higher power,and did not go entirely by their own ways giving heed to the higher power whatever they thought was coming from that higher power.

But in the beast kingdom all 4 beasts is in their chief mode of operation in that kingdom,because it is the kingdom of man in its entirety,with no minor operation.

The Roman Empire in their chief mode of operation,world domination,which they will devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces.

Babylon in their chief mode of operation,going only by their own religion with no input from a higher power,for this kingdom acknowledges no God,but honors the God of forces,the power of nature as their God,and of the occult,nature worship,witchcraft,and spiritual evolution through nature.

Medo-Persia in their chief mode of operation,being physical cruel to take away everyone that does not accept the beast kingdom,where in time past they would leave some people,and will attack Israel.

Greece in their chief mode of operation,going only by their own wisdom with no input from a higher power.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The 4th kingdom,the Roman Empire that branched in to ten horns,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,will devour the whole earth,tread it down,and break it in pieces,world domination.Even though the nations are together at the beast kingdom,the dominion is the Roman Empire,with the spirit of Babylon.

But they shall fall and the saints shall take the kingdom,and Jesus and the saints will rule the world over the heathen.

The beast kingdom in Revelation 13 is in the future,which the beast has power over all nations,kindreds,and tongues.

They will attack Israel for God turned them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

God will give the world 7 years to have their way,and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,for it is the time for God to end this sin business on earth,and bring Israel to the truth.

For Israel is blinded in part,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,and so all Israel shall be saved,and the kingdom on earth restored to her.

First attack on Jerusalem,the Jews,because they rejected Christ,so God allowed the Roman Empire to scatter the Jews in to the nations.

God said He would bring the whole house of Israel,the house of Jacob,back to Israel,and will leave none of them in the nations anymore.

The man of sin will establish peace in the Middle East,which will pave the way for the Jews to come back to Israel,and the Gentiles will come together,and say,Peace and safety,and will try to establish peace on earth,and the Jews will be separated from the Gentiles.

The Jews will split Jerusalem with the Palestinians,and the Jews will build their temple with no hassle from the Palestinians,and since they are blinded in part,they will go back to animal sacrifices.

The man of sin will be of the occult,and spiritual evolution through nature,and will step in to their temple in the middle of the 7 years period,and claim to be God and their Messiah.

He will address the world that he harnessed the power of nature,and obtained power,and will share this power with whoever follows him,and the world says,who is like unto the beast,and who is able to make war with him.

When they take the mark of the beast,then repentance,and salvation,is no longer available to the world,and the fulness of the Gentiles have come in.

God will send the Jews 2 witnesses to turn the Jews to the truth for the last three and one half years.

Israel is protected during the 7 years period from physical attack.

At the end of the 7 years period the beast,and the world,attacks Israel,and Jesus comes with the saints,and defeats the world,and saves Israel,and so all Israel shall be saved,and physical Israel will become spiritual.

The second attack on Jerusalem,the Jews,because they accepted Jesus,so the world went against them,and Jesus defeated them,and saved Israel.

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

The first attack on Jerusalem involved the Roman Empire.

The second attack on Jerusalem involves the whole world,which the dominion is the Roman Empire.
 

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That makes no sense to me, you don't even know whether the number is 666 or 616 but you know who had the mark. Which number did you count to identify the man?

None of us know which number it is, 666 or 616. John didn't have a computer or typewriter. At least his hand writing is better than mine.

The key to solving this is to identify the beast. If you knew what the beast was then it makes the solution easier, don't ya think?

Why is everyone guessing about this? Daniel identifies 4 beasts and so does John, the very same 4.