The State of Israel - Authentic or Counterfeit?

[Bladerunner]

oh ye of little faith. israel might be in unbelief right now but they will be saved in tha end as impossible as it may seem now, God has promised it and i believe that promise. tha messianic jews are already saved, some of them are very into da law but i guess they just love that stuff yuo cant take it away from them heheh.

How can Messianic Jews be saved if they are in the Law?

 

[Snoozy]

How can Messianic Jews be saved if they are in the Law?

they are in Christ, they just like to keep da law. the law is holy nothing evil about keeping da sabbath as long as one doesnt do it for salvation.

 

[Bladerunner]

they are in Christ, they just like to keep da law. the law is holy nothing evil about keeping da sabbath as long as one doesnt do it for salvation.

It is a very thin line....Keeping the law without relying on it for ones salvation. Simply look at the Church of Christ.....At one time too, they thought this way...but one thing lead to another and NOW Apostasy Big Time...Preterist and all...

there are 613 laws....???????a thin line.....

 

[oldethennew]

WOW,

and he is only '30' yrs. old!!!

 

[Bladerunner]

WOW,

and he is only '30' yrs. old!!!

Lost you on that one????????

 

[oldethennew]

it's very simple, 'Love Jesus/God/Yeshua/Adoni/Emanual', ETC. -
if you can receive Him and Believe in Him, and Walk in His Light,
no worries or 'fears', can hinder your growth in HIM...

 

[MarcR]

I think this is a question of great importance to the end times.

What would make it authentic? Land borders and real estate? The religion of the Phraisees (modern Judaism) or the DNA of the Hebrews?
God's acceptance? Why are the people so white, and why are the dark-skinned ones treated with contempt? How come Tel Aviv is a homosexual capital of this planet, even though that is against the Torah?

What are Christians supposed to think about it? Are we supposed to wait and see? Or are we to serve with money, warfare, and adoration?

Isn't it illegal to preach Christianity there? What are we to do about that? We complain when dictatorships have such rules, but what should our position be on that state?

Actually it is illegal to come into the country expressly for the purpose of evangelism.

It is not illegal for citizens or permanent residents to evangelize.

It is not illegal to share your faith in a private conversation.

 

[Locutus]

It's counter the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

 

[abcdef]

Can you deny, what is reality?

There is an Israel, and Israel is controlling Jerusalem, completely.

I have read books from the 1800's that say that it was not possible, they wondered if it would ever happen, but now it has.

Israel is real, wake up.

-----

Now, the consequences of the restoration.

1. Israel can either accept or reject the gospel kingdom.

2. Israel and Jerusalem will fall. You say no? Even Pre-trib says that Jerusalem will fall. (there is a question of debate of exactly when). But some say that Jesus will come back and rescue them first, or something.

3. Israel being restored means that the 7th trumpet can blow. The question would be, what about the seals and trumpets that happen before the 7th trumpet blows, have they happened yet, if so, what events were they seen as on earth?

4. If Jerusalem is to fall, what power, on earth today, could make that happen? (Iran? Russia? Syria? etc.) wake up, Jesus is coming.

5. Is the restoration of Israel to Jerusalem shown in the statue of Daniel 2? Do the toes/horns grow smaller, come to a point, and then end? Just before the stone strikes? The stone is about to strike.