The Ten Commandments have been replaced by the law of Christ

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Disclaimer: This is not attempt to place anyone under law.


Let's go to Luke 10:25-26


25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?" 26 "What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?" 27 He answered, " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' "


Over the years I've had Christians tell me that "the law of Christ" is "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" This, they tell me, replaced the law of Ten Commandments that were given specifically to the Jews. So "the new law" commands us to love God and love our neighbors.

Does this sound accurate?
everything (laws and commandments) hinges on those 2 commandments, its not those two commandments alone. everyone seems to not want to see that part of what Jesus says when they are trying to get rid of the laws.

were we not just having this talk on another thread?
 
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8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. - Romans 13:8-10 (KJB)

13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. - Galatians 5:13-14 (KJB)
 
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everything (laws and commandments) hinges on those 2 commandments, its not those two commandments alone. everyone seems to not want to see that part of what Jesus says when they are trying to get rid of the laws.

were we not just having this talk on another thread?
It doesn't say anywhere that the law hinges on the two greatest commandments. It says that the law hangs on the two. Hanging objects can be removed, while that which supports them remains. Stated another way, the law derives its meaning from the two greatest commandments, not the other way around; and the two can stand independent of the law.
 
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When we love God and man we do what God says. God sanctified the Sabbath and made it holy. We honor God we don't honor the Sabbath. We are honoring God in keeping the commandments even the 4th commandment that says remember, the one that a lot of people choose to forget about. People keep taking away a jot and tittle, when Jesus said till heaven and earth pass they will still remain.
 
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i sure wouldn't want to be standing in the shoes of those that are telling God about His way of life. Maybe if they would go to the Father and ask Him, then take the cotton out of their ears and stick it in their mouth long enough to list to Father to tell them what He wants instead of telling the Father what He wants.
 
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i'm not saying that one must honor Sabbath to be saved, what i am saying is that if one chooses to honor Sabbath they will see the blessings that go along with honoring Father in His Word.
 
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i'm not saying that one must honor Sabbath to be saved, what i am saying is that if one chooses to honor Sabbath they will see the blessings that go along with honoring Father in His Word.
Isn't keeping the Sabbath to get something back (blessings) based in self-seeking and selfishness?

If I pay tithe to get blessings in return isn't that "blessing for sale"?

Agape is free of self-seeking. "Love... is not self-seeking" according to Paul. See 1 Cor 13:5 (NIV).
 
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Isn't keeping the Sabbath to get something back (blessings) based in self-seeking and selfishness?

If I pay tithe to get blessings in return isn't that "blessing for sale"?

Agape is free of self-seeking. "Love... is not self-seeking" according to Paul. See 1 Cor 13:5 (NIV).

Whatever is not motivated by agape is sin. Keeping the Sabbath for blessings is sin. Keeping the Sabbath in return for heaven, sin. Where you have self you have sin.


 
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It doesn't say anywhere that the law hinges on the two greatest commandments. It says that the law hangs on the two. Hanging objects can be removed, while that which supports them remains. Stated another way, the law derives its meaning from the two greatest commandments, not the other way around; and the two can stand independent of the law.
some translations say hinge. it makes little difference because the meaning is the same. if your life was hanging by a thread, the last thing you would want to do is cut the thread.
theese 2 are the greatest. IMO you will never understand them or learn them by thinking everything else is meaningless.
 
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some translations say hinge. it makes little difference because the meaning is the same. if your life was hanging by a thread, the last thing you would want to do is cut the thread.
theese 2 are the greatest. IMO you will never understand them or learn them by thinking everything else is meaningless.
Hinge works as long as it is understood that one side is fixed, and the other side is not, but depends on the foundation it is attached to. In this case the two greatest commandments are fixed, and the rest of the law is grounded to them. The two greatest commandments don't need the law to accomplish their realization (fulfillment). In fact, the law wasn't able to do so. Only the spirit through faith can accomplish that.
 
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Whatever is not motivated by agape is sin. Keeping the Sabbath for blessings is sin. Keeping the Sabbath in return for heaven, sin. Where you have self you have sin.
But the one who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not [do so] from faith, and everything that [is] not from faith is sin. Romans 14:23

For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but faith working through love (agape). Galatians 5:6
 
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Hinge works as long as it is understood that one side is fixed, and the other side is not, but depends on the foundation it is attached to. In this case the two greatest commandments are fixed, and the rest of the law is grounded to them. The two greatest commandments don't need the law to accomplish their realization (fulfillment). In fact, the law wasn't able to do so. Only the spirit through faith can accomplish that.
Jesus mentions the law many times in his teachings and never says to throw it out.

did Jesus follow the law, is he not our example?

the law is not the key, our Lords love is the Key. when you get that, you understand everything, law falls under everything.
 
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Jesus mentions the law many times in his teachings and never says to throw it out.

did Jesus follow the law, is he not our example?

the law is not the key, our Lords love is the Key. when you get that, you understand everything, law falls under everything.
When Jesus talked about the law he was talking to people who were under the law. His death and resurrection changed everything.
 
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When Jesus talked about the law he was talking to people who were under the law. His death and resurrection changed everything.
so then that would mean Jesus is not our example being as everything he said was meant for someone else. so are there any teachings at all for us to learn from?
Jesus was here for the glory of His Father, i dont think that means He came to change everything His Father has done.