The Word Was Made Flesh

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Hizikyah

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Mattithyah 1:18,21-23, “Now this is how the birth of Yahshua Messiah came about: When His mother Miriam had been betrothed to Yahseph, and before they came together, she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit. And she will give birth to a Son and you will call His Name YAHSHUA; (Yahweh is Salvation); for Yahweh will save His people from their sins. Now all this was done to fulfill what Yahweh had spoken through the prophet (Isayah 7:14), saying: Behold a virgin will conceive, and bear a Son, and will bring forth the sign IMMANUYAH-which means that Yahweh Of Hosts Is With Us."
 
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Are you saying the Word is a Spirit?
John 1:1
king james version(kjv)

1.)In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 4:24
king james version(kjv)

24.)God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John 1:14
king james version(kjv)

14.)And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Matthew 1:18
king james version(kjv)

18.)Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
 

notuptome

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You do not even know who wrote this. True or false?
False

2 Peter 1:21 ...holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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elf3

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#45
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory,
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth.


How was the Word made flesh?
The Word was made flesh by God. How did God do it? He is God. In God's sovereign Will He made the Word flesh. So to question beyond the Sovereignty of God is to question God. Why do I believe it...faith. What is faith? Believing something we cannot see. So why believe it? Because of the omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, Sovereignty of God. We are not meant to understand everything and every working of God. Some things we have to just believe by faith because "God said". Unless God gives you a peace in not knowing everything about or of Him there will always be a question. So how do you get beyond this "questioning"? Pray for the peace of God and the understanding guidance of the Holy Spirit. Beyond that we may never know how "God made the Word flesh".
 
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False

2 Peter 1:21 ...holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit

For the cause of Christ
Roger
So tell me how do you know which
is that which was wrote by any man that was moved by the Holy Spirit?

Because they told you so?
 

notuptome

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So tell me how do you know which
is that which was wrote by any man that was moved by the Holy Spirit?

Because they told you so?
The very same Holy Spirit dwells in me and witnesses with what is written. How about you? How do you know?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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good on ya!

a start might be not exalting yourself. i think that's part of what's putting off some of the brethren.

For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and the one who humbles himself will be exalted.
(Luke 14:11)
The Spirit of God exalts itself in me. Your accusation is meritless.
 
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The very same Holy Spirit dwells in me and witnesses with what is written. How about you? How do you know?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I do not believe you have the Holy Spirit in you.
Just because someone tells me they have the Holy Spirit in them
does not mean they have the Holy Spirit in them.

Besides you have failed to explain already your doctrine, when I asked you.
 
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posthuman

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So tell me how do you know which
is that which was wrote by any man that was moved by the Holy Spirit?

Because they told you so?

according as I said to you: My sheep my voice do hear, and I know them, and they follow me
(John 10:27)

He gave us a spirit that guides us into truth -- boy am i grateful for it! left to my own poor judgement, i would be in every kind of error! 'carried away by every wind of doctrine,' as it were.

And when the Comforter may come, whom I will send to you from the Father —
the Spirit of truth, who from the Father doth come forth, he will testify of me

(John 15:26)

so, the book of Hebrews, for example, the spirit in me affirms is of Him. beyond that, as the 'more noble' Bereans did - i can search out what it says in the scriptures, and see that it agrees.
 
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according as I said to you: My sheep my voice do hear, and I know them, and they follow me
(John 10:27)

He gave us a spirit that guides us into truth -- boy am i grateful for it! left to my own poor judgement, i would be in every kind of error! 'carried away by every wind of doctrine,' as it were.

And when the Comforter may come, whom I will send to you from the Father —
the Spirit of truth, who from the Father doth come forth, he will testify of me

(John 15:26)

so, the book of Hebrews, for example, the spirit in me affirms is of Him. beyond that, as the 'more noble' Bereans did - i can search out what it says in the scriptures, and see that it agrees.
Reading to me anything from the bible does not constitute that you live it.

OR IT APPLIES TO YOU IN ANY WAY.

It only verifies you know how to cut and paste it on here.
 
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Sirk

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Are you saying flesh is God?
The bible is pretty clear when it declares that God himself stepped off his heavenly throne, gave himself no advantage, lived a perfect sinless life and became the ultimate etoning sacrifice for the sins of man and that whoever makes Him (Jesus) lord of their lives will be His children and He will rescue them form their deserved place in hell...because he is compassionate and was willing to do that for us so we would have the undeserved priviledge of spending eternity with Him.
 
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The bible is pretty clear when it declares that God himself stepped off his heavenly throne, gave himself no advantage, lived a perfect sinless life and became the ultimate etoning sacrifice for the sins of man and that whoever makes Him (Jesus) lord of their lives will be His children and He will rescue them form their deserved place in hell...because he is compassionate and was willing to do that for us so we would have the undeserved priviledge of spending eternity with Him.
I did not ask you what the bible said I ask YOU
Are you saying flesh is God?

That requires you saying

Yes

or no..
 
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Sirk

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I did not ask you what the bible said I ask YOU
Are you saying flesh is God?
it only matters what the bible says and that is what it says. Period, no erasies or take backs.....end of story that's my final answer.
 

posthuman

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The Spirit of God exalts itself in me. Your accusation is meritless.
by "accusation" perhaps you meant "advice" ?
it's hard for all of us who have been given an understanding to make a distinction between ourselves and the one who reveals things to us. i know i am not the origin of any wise thing that might happen to come out of me, but i'm not always very good at making that clear.

the spirit i know exalts the one who sent it, not itself. is it the same with you?

thanks for replying to my post by the way. :)
 
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elf3

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The real question to every question about the character, nature and workings of God is this...do you have faith in God or do you keep trying to explain ALL of God?

A couple JW guys I knew said "God tells us in the Bible everything about Himself". If we truly believe this then we have a god that can be explained by human means. Or do we have a God that is so far beyond our full comprehension that He only tells us what we need to know about Himself. If you can fully describe God then by the name of the book "Your god is too small". If you must fully know everything about God before you have faith in God then your "thinking of God is too small".
 

posthuman

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Reading to me anything from the bible does not constitute that you live it.

OR IT APPLIES TO YOU IN ANY WAY.

It only verifies you know how to cut and paste it on here.
not sure why you ask questions if you reject every answer.
if words are meaningless to you, and if you want, you can come and visit with me and carefully watch my life every hour of the day. i have a spare bedroom. i'll give you a running monologue of my thoughts so you can examine them.

seems easiest in this setting to post what i believe and copy-paste scriptural justification for it, that's all.
sorry if i mistook your plain question for its face value, if what you really meant was for me to give a complete account of my entire life and being.
 
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notuptome

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I do not believe you have the Holy Spirit in you.
Just because someone tells me they have the Holy Spirit in them
does not mean they have the Holy Spirit in them.

Besides you have failed to explain already your doctrine, when I asked you.
I am not responsible for what you believe or what you reject. I know what I got and it appears that you do not have the same. I got what I got from God. You got what you got from who knows where.

For the cause of Christ
Roger