The work of the forty four thousand special jews

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Mem

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I know it's not any kind of seal; you're just playing mind games. If you had anything worth showing you'd be happy to glorify God by showing it. Just more empty talk.
Like I said, lift up your eyes rather than looking down your nose. How would you know what anyone would do apart from your own imagination?
 

studentoftheword

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12,000 from each tribe brings the word of God to the nations and to Israel. These are the modern day disciples who who bring many to the Lord in the Tribulation.
Rev 14
Actually the 144,000 are the 12 Tribes of Israel sealed by God to preach the Gospel to all the world along with the 2 witnesses who do God's bidding as well during the 7 year Tribulation ---- I believe the 2 witnesses are Moses and Elijah who represent the Law and the Prophets ---and who appeared with Jesus on the mountain when He was transfigured -----

The 144,000 remain unharmed throughout the 7 year Tribulation not one hair on their heads are missing ------this is God honoring His Pledge to His First Chosen Nation who rejected His Son ----but who He never forgot and honors them in the end ----

Deuteronomy 7:6 ESV
“For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Deuteronomy 14:2 ESV
For you are a people holy to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.


Revelation 7

New International Version

144,000 Sealed
7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.

2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea:

3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.


I say ---so God seals these 144;000 ----So God must have plans on using these 144'000 for His purpose as He stops the destruction of the land and sea and holds back the wind --until these people are Sealed ----they are marked for a reason -----So what is the reason ???? ---they have a Godly Mission to fulfil -----

From Got Questions ----

These 144,000 Jews are “sealed,” which means they have the special protection of God. They are kept safe from the divine judgments and from the wrath of the Antichrist. They can freely perform their mission during the tribulation. It had been previously prophesied that Israel would repent and turn back to God (Zechariah 12:10; Romans 11:25–27), and the 144,000 Jews seem to be a sort of “first fruits” (Revelation 14:4) of that redeemed Israel. Their mission seems to be to evangelize the post-rapture world and proclaim the gospel during the tribulation period. As a result of their ministry, millions—“a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9)—will come to faith in Christ.


A 4 min video ----for anyone interested
DAVID JEREMIAH: Christ's Return, The 144,000, Two Witnesses & Prophecy in Revelation



 

ResidentAlien

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Like I said, lift up your eyes rather than looking down your nose. How would you know what anyone would do apart from your own imagination?
Why is it my responsibility? You're the one making making the claim. I don't have to adjust my thinking to accommodate you; you have the burden of proof and you clearly haven't proven anything.
 

Adstar

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12,000 from each tribe brings the word of God to the nations and to Israel. These are the modern day disciples who who bring many to the Lord in the Tribulation.
Rev 14

9 After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne, and to the Lamb!

13 Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and whence have they come?” 14 I said to him, “Sir, you know.” And he said to me, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Do you agree
The Bible does not say they will be involved in any evangelism during the Tribulation.. The Bible describes them as Innocents.. 144,000 who have not known a woman.. So they seem to me to be innocent little ones..
 

Beckie

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Another one worshiping the creation .
 

Omegatime

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Actually the 144,000 are the 12 Tribes of Israel sealed by God to preach the Gospel to all the world along with the 2 witnesses who do God's bidding as well during the 7 year Tribulation ---- I believe the 2 witnesses are Moses and Elijah who represent the Law and the Prophets ---and who appeared with Jesus on the mountain when He was transfigured -----

The 144,000 remain unharmed throughout the 7 year Tribulation not one hair on their heads are missing ------this is God honoring His Pledge to His First Chosen Nation who rejected His Son ----but who He never forgot and honors them in the end ----

Deuteronomy 7:6 ESV
“For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Deuteronomy 14:2 ESV
For you are a people holy to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.


Revelation 7

New International Version

144,000 Sealed
7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.

2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea:

3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.


I say ---so God seals these 144;000 ----So God must have plans on using these 144'000 for His purpose as He stops the destruction of the land and sea and holds back the wind --until these people are Sealed ----they are marked for a reason -----So what is the reason ???? ---they have a Godly Mission to fulfil -----

From Got Questions ----

These 144,000 Jews are “sealed,” which means they have the special protection of God. They are kept safe from the divine judgments and from the wrath of the Antichrist. They can freely perform their mission during the tribulation. It had been previously prophesied that Israel would repent and turn back to God (Zechariah 12:10; Romans 11:25–27), and the 144,000 Jews seem to be a sort of “first fruits” (Revelation 14:4) of that redeemed Israel. Their mission seems to be to evangelize the post-rapture world and proclaim the gospel during the tribulation period. As a result of their ministry, millions—“a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9)—will come to faith in Christ.


A 4 min video ----for anyone interested
DAVID JEREMIAH: Christ's Return, The 144,000, Two Witnesses & Prophecy in Revelation



I do not think they remain unharmed but persecuted and taken up to heaven about 4 years after the start of the tribulation Rev 14 for teaching the Gospel
 

Mem

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Why is it my responsibility? You're the one making making the claim. I don't have to adjust my thinking to accommodate you; you have the burden of proof and you clearly haven't proven anything.
I don't have to prove to you anything to you. Your belief or disbelief neither confirms nor denies the reality. I shared my thoughts about my experience. That's all. It is up to you what you make of it. That is the liberty that is afforded to you.
 

Mem

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No, you certainly don't; never said you did. You're the one who posted the picture, not me.
I did to oblique your request, knowing the probability of this result, which was no different than I expected.
 

ResidentAlien

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I did to oblique your request, knowing the probability of this result, which was no different than I expected.
Okay, I won't argue with you. You've shown you're just another person making fantastic claims that can't be substantiated. Business as usual around here.
 

Mem

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The 144,0000 are a specifically numbered group, which appears to be separate from the multitude that no man can number that come out of the tribulation wearing white robes.

I do not think they remain unharmed but persecuted and taken up to heaven about 4 years after the start of the tribulation Rev 14 for teaching the Gospel
 

Mem

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Okay, I won't argue with you. You've shown you're just another person making fantastic claims that can't be substantiated. Business as usual around here.
I may be a fantastic notion, I can't argue that but, it is a notion, nonetheless, though the difference is that you say it is "absolutely' impossible.
 

Mem

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Lol, ....so I'll leave alone sharing the vision I receive a month earlier of event. :p
 
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Actually the 144,000 are the 12 Tribes of Israel sealed by God to preach the Gospel to all the world along with the 2 witnesses who do God's bidding as well during the 7 year Tribulation ---- I believe the 2 witnesses are Moses and Elijah who represent the Law and the Prophets ---and who appeared with Jesus on the mountain when He was transfigured -----

The 144,000 remain unharmed throughout the 7 year Tribulation not one hair on their heads are missing ------this is God honoring His Pledge to His First Chosen Nation who rejected His Son ----but who He never forgot and honors them in the end ----

Deuteronomy 7:6 ESV
“For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Deuteronomy 14:2 ESV
For you are a people holy to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.


Revelation 7

New International Version

144,000 Sealed
7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.

2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea:

3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.


I say ---so God seals these 144;000 ----So God must have plans on using these 144'000 for His purpose as He stops the destruction of the land and sea and holds back the wind --until these people are Sealed ----they are marked for a reason -----So what is the reason ???? ---they have a Godly Mission to fulfil -----

From Got Questions ----

These 144,000 Jews are “sealed,” which means they have the special protection of God. They are kept safe from the divine judgments and from the wrath of the Antichrist. They can freely perform their mission during the tribulation. It had been previously prophesied that Israel would repent and turn back to God (Zechariah 12:10; Romans 11:25–27), and the 144,000 Jews seem to be a sort of “first fruits” (Revelation 14:4) of that redeemed Israel. Their mission seems to be to evangelize the post-rapture world and proclaim the gospel during the tribulation period. As a result of their ministry, millions—“a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9)—will come to faith in Christ.


A 4 min video ----for anyone interested
DAVID JEREMIAH: Christ's Return, The 144,000, Two Witnesses & Prophecy in Revelation



This should be a big clue why Moses is linked as one of The Two Witnesses.

John 3:14
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up.

Elijah and Moses in the image of the water, and the blood, that were present when the son of man was lifted up at the cross in the form of the two thieves.
The 144,000 are like Elijah and Moses.They hold the branch that lifts up the serpent.

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Holding the branch means that they're holding the testimony of the Two Witnesses, and will give their lives for it, and refused burial.