There are no clouds in Rev 19 or 20, it means His Coming was a different Event.

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oyster67

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No, I am a Pre-Tribist. I believe we will be removed from the Earth and taken to Heaven for 7 years and then return back to Earth with Christ at His Second Coming.

Mid-Tribist believe we will only escape the "Great Trib", which is the last half. They believe that the "last trump" of 1Corinthians15:52 refers to the seventh trumpet of Revelation, which happens at the midpoint.
1 Corinthians 15:52
“In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

1Thessalonians4:16 also mentions a "trump".
1 Thessalonians 4:16
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:”

I believe that this trumpet simply signals the end of the Church Age and is not related to the 7th trumpet judgment of Revelation.
 

TheLearner

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No, I am a Pre-Tribist. I believe we will be removed from the Earth and taken to Heaven for 7 years and then return back to Earth with Christ at His Second Coming.

Mid-Tribist believe we will only escape the "Great Trib", which is the last half. They believe that the "last trump" of 1Corinthians15:52 refers to the seventh trumpet of Revelation, which happens at the midpoint.
1 Corinthians 15:52
“In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

1Thessalonians4:16 also mentions a "trump".
1 Thessalonians 4:16
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:”

I believe that this trumpet simply signals the end of the Church Age and is not related to the 7th trumpet judgment of Revelation.
Thanks Bro, the 3.5 years made me wonder.