There are three baptisms. Water, Holy Spirit and Fire

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Nehemiah6

Nehemiah6

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fredoheaven said:
I check my dictionary but repentance doesn't mean death...
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Dictionaries are not meant to give you spiritual insight. So please go back to Scripture and see that repentance does mean death to the old self and the old life. Mortifying the flesh means putting the flesh to death. Which is A TOTAL turning away from sins and idols and a turning to Christ.
 
preston39

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mailmandan said:
...ah..so you are a troll...I thought so. ;)
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LOL.,,I may not like it when I find out what a troll is.

Why are you not showing me scriptures which says...baptism is not required...as you maintain...do you plan too? If not we can move on. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt.
 
mailmandan

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preston39 said:
m...,
LOL.,,I may not like it when I find out what a troll is.

Why are you not showing me scriptures which says...baptism is not required...as you maintain...do you plan too? If not we can move on. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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I already have shown you in previous posts that baptism is not absolutely required for salvation. Why don’t you show me a Bible verse that says, “whoever is not water baptized will not be saved.”

John 3:18 - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? - NO) does not believe is condemned already, because he has not (been water baptized? - NO) because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 
Jewel5712

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pjharrison said:
Matthew 3:11 11"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Water baptism is for repentance. Baptism of the Holy Spirit teaches and bring you into all truth. Baptism with Fire is suffering.
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John the baptist baptized Jesus who didnt get baptized for repentence..and if that were the case..we'd need to be baptized every time we repented? Baptism is an outward representation of the chamge in our hearts after we recieve Jesus as Lord .it represents the "old man being washed new and made a new creature".. The water symolizes christs blood that was shed and washes us white as snow ;)
 
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Jewel5712 said:
John the baptist baptized Jesus who didnt get baptized for repentence..and if that were the case..we'd need to be baptized every time we repented? Baptism is an outward representation of the chamge in our hearts after we recieve Jesus as Lord .it represents the "old man being washed new and made a new creature".. The water symolizes christs blood that was shed and washes us white as snow ;)
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It represents death.
 
Jewel5712

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pjharrison said:
The Baptist of fire is suffering.
1 Peter 5:10
10 And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you.
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Are you talking bout TRIALS BY FIRE meant to purify our charector and faith???


"These trials will show that your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold--though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world"
 
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Jewel5712 said:
Are you talking bout TRIALS BY FIRE meant to purify our charector and faith???


"These trials will show that your faith is genuine. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold--though your faith is far more precious than mere gold. So when your faith remains strong through many trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world"
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Yes
 
JaumeJ

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Anyone who lives like Jesus Christ and follows His Example and dTeaching might be called a leftist though politics does not enter into our faith at all excep as regards our Kindom, our King and His Monarchy.
 
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