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Those were Michal's words not mine...
Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!
(2Sa 6:20)
Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!
(2Sa 6:20)
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I wasn't searching for something like that. I was looking for information on a guy named Terry Bennett, who is supposed to be a prophetic minister. I accidently ran across this as this Bennett is involved with some guy named Rick Joyner and the video is from Joyners church.
I think it's interestiing in the sense that it proves how people can give into carnal fleshy things. The music has a lot to do with setting the tone.
I think it's interestiing in the sense that it proves how people can give into carnal fleshy things. The music has a lot to do with setting the tone.
Well, "shamelessly uncovering himself" doesn't exactly sound like putting on an overcoat or anything like that to me...... but, of course, I could be wrong, some wives may get upset by their husbands putting on overcoats.
But the point I was making (before you guys "sidestepped" it) was that David wasn't just doing the waltz out on that street.
But the point I was making (before you guys "sidestepped" it) was that David wasn't just doing the waltz out on that street.
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Convallaria.. just compare the vid to scripture.
See what you come up with.
Doesn't have to be a 'cessationists are getting on this video to disprove charismatics' thing.
I saw about 2 minutes into it and wasn't surprised by it. It's just a little step more extreme than Todd Bentley (altho Todd Bentley I think does sometimes go this extreme also).
It's not an attack on charismatics. Very rare.. but you do get charismatics who will at least try and abide by the guidelines Paul sets out in how spiritual gifts should operate in the bible. I am a cessationist.. but at least these kind of charismatics altho still doing something they shouldn't.. are trying to do it as Paul was trying to get people to do it.
This vid.. is really obviously not biblical.
See what you come up with.
Doesn't have to be a 'cessationists are getting on this video to disprove charismatics' thing.
I saw about 2 minutes into it and wasn't surprised by it. It's just a little step more extreme than Todd Bentley (altho Todd Bentley I think does sometimes go this extreme also).
It's not an attack on charismatics. Very rare.. but you do get charismatics who will at least try and abide by the guidelines Paul sets out in how spiritual gifts should operate in the bible. I am a cessationist.. but at least these kind of charismatics altho still doing something they shouldn't.. are trying to do it as Paul was trying to get people to do it.
This vid.. is really obviously not biblical.
Hi Wattie,
What you said is really proving my point. I saw some of the video but left it alone after the first minute or so. I could see that by placing it publicly SOME would write off anything charismatic as demonic and not go there in their personal walk with God. That is a total tragedy IMO.
I am talking about a process really…and it is antichrist spirit that triumphs here by subtly turning people away from the fullness of the Spirit.
Your words: “It's not an attack on charismatics. Very rare.. but you do get charismatics who will at least try and abide by the guidelines Paul sets out in how spiritual gifts should operate in the bible. I am a cessationist.. but at least these kind of charismatics altho still doing something they shouldn't.. are trying to do it as Paul was trying to get people to do it.”
You see now you are provoking me to try and defend myself and by this be seen to defend the video.
People who move in the Spirit are not doing something wrong!!!!! Wow, how can you say that and not feel you are in any danger?
Also there is no “trying” involved when you have received a gift of God: you either have it or you don’t, and if you have it, you either use it, or you don’t. Trying doesn’t come into it!
Your words again: This vid.. is really obviously not biblical.
You see what I mean? Of course it isn’t Biblical, anyone can see that some elements in it were actually disturbing. But now the damage is done and the cessationists have proved their point and the Holy Spirit is grieved and quenched – YET AGAIN!
What you said is really proving my point. I saw some of the video but left it alone after the first minute or so. I could see that by placing it publicly SOME would write off anything charismatic as demonic and not go there in their personal walk with God. That is a total tragedy IMO.
I am talking about a process really…and it is antichrist spirit that triumphs here by subtly turning people away from the fullness of the Spirit.
Your words: “It's not an attack on charismatics. Very rare.. but you do get charismatics who will at least try and abide by the guidelines Paul sets out in how spiritual gifts should operate in the bible. I am a cessationist.. but at least these kind of charismatics altho still doing something they shouldn't.. are trying to do it as Paul was trying to get people to do it.”
You see now you are provoking me to try and defend myself and by this be seen to defend the video.
People who move in the Spirit are not doing something wrong!!!!! Wow, how can you say that and not feel you are in any danger?
Also there is no “trying” involved when you have received a gift of God: you either have it or you don’t, and if you have it, you either use it, or you don’t. Trying doesn’t come into it!
Your words again: This vid.. is really obviously not biblical.
You see what I mean? Of course it isn’t Biblical, anyone can see that some elements in it were actually disturbing. But now the damage is done and the cessationists have proved their point and the Holy Spirit is grieved and quenched – YET AGAIN!
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Just because something is weird, doesn't mean it isn't of God.
But conversely, just because something is weird, doesn't mean it is of God.
I'm definitely not a cessationist, but I believe it's important to be incredibly discerning and to test the spirits and fruit (sadly something lacking in SOME charismatic circles). That said, this particular video doesn't strike me as pointing to God's truth.
But conversely, just because something is weird, doesn't mean it is of God.
I'm definitely not a cessationist, but I believe it's important to be incredibly discerning and to test the spirits and fruit (sadly something lacking in SOME charismatic circles). That said, this particular video doesn't strike me as pointing to God's truth.
Wow!!! how epically stupid is this. How am I meant to grow in my knowledge of Christ?? How am I meant to meaningfully worship him??? How am I meant to go to Gods Word and meditate, ponder, and muse over truth and teaching???
Its scary to know what churches have become... a bunch of hyper emotionalism, repetitive noise jargon.. No wonder atheists and socialists think we're stupid.
Its scary to know what churches have become... a bunch of hyper emotionalism, repetitive noise jargon.. No wonder atheists and socialists think we're stupid.
See that is what I mean, the damage is done.
How are you meant to grow in your knowledge of Christ? Pray a lot, not pious prayers but real ones; read the word and ask the Lord to give you those things He has promised and to show you what is true and what is not; Take it on the chin when He admonishes you for your unbelief, repent, be open to Him whatever comes, even though the world will come against you.
You can depend on all those scriptures regarding the gifts of the Spirit. Don't let anyone bomb you off track.
This is not a competition to see who is right and who is wrong. If you are born again (and if you are not, message me and can help you) IF you are born again the promises of God are all YEA and AMEN to us 2 Cor 1:20, and Acts 2:39 (re the gift of the Holy Ghost) For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Read the whole of Acts 2 and you will see it is about the pentecostal outpouring and that there were those present who MOCKED it....don't be partakers with the mockers.
How are you meant to grow in your knowledge of Christ? Pray a lot, not pious prayers but real ones; read the word and ask the Lord to give you those things He has promised and to show you what is true and what is not; Take it on the chin when He admonishes you for your unbelief, repent, be open to Him whatever comes, even though the world will come against you.
You can depend on all those scriptures regarding the gifts of the Spirit. Don't let anyone bomb you off track.
This is not a competition to see who is right and who is wrong. If you are born again (and if you are not, message me and can help you) IF you are born again the promises of God are all YEA and AMEN to us 2 Cor 1:20, and Acts 2:39 (re the gift of the Holy Ghost) For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Read the whole of Acts 2 and you will see it is about the pentecostal outpouring and that there were those present who MOCKED it....don't be partakers with the mockers.