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Does not mean you did not cut my post up..

If you read it all and understood it, you never would have asked me the question.
Is UnderGrace your wife?
No, really.

She likes everything you post.

So let's do this...

I'll NEVER ask you another question again.

End of story.
 
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Peace for those that are in Christ. The gospel was not to bring peace to the world. Jesus knew that before hand. that is why he told them that he came not to send peace.
Of course.
And as we see here, there is litte peace even between we Christians.

The reason is that we have a sin nature that needs to be put under submission.

This is difficult for some to do because they don't believe Jesus requires anything of them except that they believe that He will save them.

Instead some here like to make an effort to be as Jesus would want them to be.
There is a big chasm here and one that is not easy to breach because the new modern Christianity has brainwashed many into concepts that were not taught by Christ.
 
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so she hijacks a thread to argue with people and then wonders why people ignore her

yeah

go figure :rolleyes:
Sevenseas,

You're part of the gang.

The gang of 6
and counting.

You should be proud to number yourself amoung the cream of the crop.
 

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One cannot do anything with a sin nature except to die with the Cross of Jesus Christ and rise to His new life in Spirit.
 
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so she hijacks a thread to argue with people and then wonders why people ignore her

yeah

go figure :rolleyes:
Sweetie
When I'm attacked...
I respond.

Especially to persons that have no idea of what Jesus requires of them.
 
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so she hijacks a thread to argue with people and then wonders why people ignore her

yeah

go figure :rolleyes:
BTW,
Yes. I DO WISH that some people would ignore me...

But they just can't seem to....
 
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One cannot do anything with a sin nature except to die with the Cross of Jesus Christ and rise to His new life in Spirit.
Please explain to us all what that means exactly...

How is that APPLIED TO LIFE situations?
 
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Peace for those that are in Christ. The gospel was not to bring peace to the world. Jesus knew that before hand. that is why he told them that he came not to send peace.


............Yes............
 
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Sweetie
When I'm attacked...
I respond.

Especially to persons that have no idea of what Jesus requires of them.

You were not attacked, you were confronted, notice how you refused to respond to what I said, you continue to think you did nothing wrong.

Why is it you wrkers always do this?

As for your final line, Jesus requires your faith, real living faith, in his promise based on his son,

so you you need to respond to your own lack of faith.
 
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so she hijacks a thread to argue with people and then wonders why people ignore her

yeah

go figure :rolleyes:

Oh.

And another thing...

HOW DO YOU KINOW PEOPLE IGNORE ME???

Do YOU and some Others here speak behind my back???

This is known as gossipping.

Christians should not be gossipping.

Jesus said it matters not what goes into the mouth,
but what comes out of the mouth.

Mathew 15:11
 
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It does when you are proud. People do not like to be told what they really are. As the bible says, it is sharper than a two edged sword, it pierces. It slices right through the pride. and if you do not like it you either ignore it, act like it is not there, or you fight it with all you have, One of the most useful ways to fight is to make small half truths, which appear to be truth, but in reality is not.

Thats what you see here in CC,, usually two groups. diametrically apposed to each others. Fighting tooth and nail

The part that hurts? they can not both be right.
I think about the Pharisees who were CUT to the heart and flew upon Stephen with murderous intent...it sure seems the truth "hurt" them and their pride/feelings.......
 

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It does when you are proud. People do not like to be told what they really are. As the bible says, it is sharper than a two edged sword, it pierces. It slices right through the pride. and if you do not like it you either ignore it, act like it is not there, or you fight it with all you have, One of the most useful ways to fight is to make small half truths, which appear to be truth, but in reality is not.

Thats what you see here in CC,, usually two groups. diametrically apposed to each others. Fighting tooth and nail

The part that hurts? they can not both be right.

Year after year same belief battles on cc... we contend for Truth as we believe it to be.... ... Remember much conversing with you.... All for the glory of GOD... you seem worn out... Be of good cheer.
 
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I have a theory. dc is upset he has not defeated all the workers. Even worse they are learning
more of scripture and showing his theology does not work.

An even deeper hole, those who actually believe the gnostic version of the faith are now chipping
in and showing it is just a part compromise on a failed platform.

It is hard when you are so so so so angry about the church and all those evil evil legalists who
are doing so much work for the Lord when they should just be resting idly by.

I had a revelation today. For an idle believer to call another a worker is a complement.
We are called to work for God in everything we do. So all our effort goes to His glory. Amen

Now they have a weird concept you can do some things for self, evil and some things
for God, good, so you need to know which you are doing and why. It is a very subjective
morality because for them sin does not exist because the law is not there, except they
feel condemned all the time and sin every day. Got to say, defeat, guilt, a bad conscience,
failure, no joy or peace, only this pointless fighting, wonder why they bother.

Even funnier they believe they do not chose God he chose them and does everything, so it
is all fate anyway, so why argue? The saved are the saved and the lost are the lost. Unless
ofcourse they are lying, and are just driven people to get revenge on all those wasted years
slaving as legalists. Hatred and revenge are always strong drivers, lol

Opps maybe I have stirred up a hornets nest except these ones have no sting and no real
theology just a jumble of aspirations and distorted scriptures.

I would have more sympathy if they were not full of barbs and antagonism....

And I came saying love Jesus and love each other. They got one thing right, love takes work,
commitment, faithfulness, perseverance, dedication. But you cannot rest and do this as well
so they chose the easy way out. Oddly the whole group in linked to health and wealth, WOF
and the NAR, the reminants of Joels army, the manifest sons of God, to the arrogant rich who
want God to make the richer still.

Oddly the apostles disliked this group because they tended to be self important and did not
understand service and works. Odd that today the same problems are still present, lol :cool:
 
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I have a theory. dc is upset he has not defeated all the workers. Even worse they are learning
more of scripture and showing his theology does not work.

An even deeper hole, those who actually believe the gnostic version of the faith are now chipping
in and showing it is just a part compromise on a failed platform.

It is hard when you are so so so so angry about the church and all those evil evil legalists who
are doing so much work for the Lord when they should just be resting idly by.

I had a revelation today. For an idle believer to call another a worker is a complement.
We are called to work for God in everything we do. So all our effort goes to His glory. Amen

Now they have a weird concept you can do some things for self, evil and some things
for God, good, so you need to know which you are doing and why. It is a very subjective
morality because for them sin does not exist because the law is not there, except they
feel condemned all the time and sin every day. Got to say, defeat, guilt, a bad conscience,
failure, no joy or peace, only this pointless fighting, wonder why they bother.

Even funnier they believe they do not chose God he chose them and does everything, so it
is all fate anyway, so why argue? The saved are the saved and the lost are the lost. Unless
ofcourse they are lying, and are just driven people to get revenge on all those wasted years
slaving as legalists. Hatred and revenge are always strong drivers, lol

Opps maybe I have stirred up a hornets nest except these ones have no sting and no real
theology just a jumble of aspirations and distorted scriptures.

I would have more sympathy if they were not full of barbs and antagonism....

And I came saying love Jesus and love each other. They got one thing right, love takes work,
commitment, faithfulness, perseverance, dedication. But you cannot rest and do this as well
so they chose the easy way out. Oddly the whole group in linked to health and wealth, WOF
and the NAR, the reminants of Joels army, the manifest sons of God, to the arrogant rich who
want God to make the richer still.

Oddly the apostles disliked this group because they tended to be self important and did not
understand service and works. Odd that today the same problems are still present, lol :cool:
Truer words have rarely been spoken here on this CC forum !

Question is: How many will read it and understand it and
how many will read it and THINK they understand it.

I very much agree with all you've said.
I rest in our Lord. HE is my Sabbath. Every day is the Sabbath. HE is my rest. I trust Him to get me by. He said He had to leave but would send the Holy Spirit to be my helper and my guide and my paraclete.

I believe Grace is VERY EXPENSIVE. It cost God's Son a grizzly Death to free me from the bondage of sin and the slavery to satan. Even though we MAY NOT THINK we're slaves to satan or sin, we indeed were before we were born again. Even if we were very "good" persons.

Jesus did what He had to do for me. What was planned from the beginning of the world. One man sinned, and by One Man who is the Firstfruits, many will follow to enter into God's Kingdom.

Now it's MY turn to do. NOWHERE in all His teachings did Jesus teach that one is to just believe in Him and he would be safe.
He taught commandments, He taught parables to let us know what is important, He taught parables to teach us about the Kingdom of God and how precious it is.

Jesus spoke more about the Kingdom than salvation. In fact, He hardly ever spoke of salvation. He spoke about what we are TO DO, and how we are TO BEHAVE.

Some feel they fall so short of this that they must sooth their conscience somehow. Thus, some hundreds of years ago, the concept was thought up that we ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING.

And recently, with the hyper Grace, or cheap grace movement, Christians have been BRAINWASHED to believe that nothing is necessary from them except to believe. Leaving them pretty free to practice whatever type of behavior they wish.
No need to change because Jesus will protect them.

I'd like to see some verses about this. I've asked many times, but have received none.

BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE.

When I'm not sure about something I like to go back to what JESUS said, not what Paul said.
Jesus hung on that cross, not Paul, not Calvin, not Luther and not Ceflo Dollar and his ilk.

Great post !
 
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It does when you are proud. People do not like to be told what they really are. As the bible says, it is sharper than a two edged sword, it pierces. It slices right through the pride. and if you do not like it you either ignore it, act like it is not there, or you fight it with all you have, One of the most useful ways to fight is to make small half truths, which appear to be truth, but in reality is not.

Thats what you see here in CC,, usually two groups. diametrically apposed to each others. Fighting tooth and nail

The part that hurts? they can not both be right.
Then "can't both be right" hurts? Not so much truth?

Honestly. I don't go with extremely embarrassed hurts. It's merely extremely embarrassed. That's the worst I do when I figure out I'm wrong. Half the time I crack up laughing when I figure it out. I'm fairly used to being wrong. I married a man who is right 99% of the time. lol
 
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Hmmmm.

Can't explain yourself.

Understood.

If you make a statement, you should be able to back it up.


So we're all just one happy family.

OK.

And my posts are contradictory when they don't agree.

Like, I don't agree with YOU for instance.
So, naturally, it's contradictory.

See?
Light and darkness. Remember that part? (Said after reading three posts in a row of you putting three different people in their place. Which, considering this is about BDF, it's pretty funny, since none of us stay in place. lol)
 
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I think about the Pharisees who were CUT to the heart and flew upon Stephen with murderous intent...it sure seems the truth "hurt" them and their pride/feelings.......
Funny you saying the Pharisees were cut to the heart.
You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit! [SUP]52 [/SUP]Was there ever a prophet your ancestors did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him— [SUP]53 [/SUP]you who have received the law that was given through angels but have not obeyed it.”
Acts 7:51-53

Stephen was simply riling a raging bull.
He called them murderers, hypocrites, and not followers of God.

It is like me saying you do not know Jesus, are still lost in sin, and spend your
time persecuting other believers for invented sin and offences to try and discourage
them from following and serving the Lord. And worse still you put no effort into hiding
your hypocracy and failure to walk in purity and holiness as you are called to do.

Now if I did this to you, you would get annoyed and want to harm me.
So Stephen did this to his enemies who were quite capable of executing people for
blasphemy if so riled up, and they were the force of the law in the country so no
one would be accused of murder if they did it as a group.
 
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Ok Fran

If you read and understood my whole post. Why did you ask why their was no peace.

I will let you respond and answer why you ignored half my post.

As for an apology, You have to earn one.. . All you have done is dug yourself a deeper whole and become more dishonest trying to deny what you did.
If this exchange was a few minutes ago, instead of several hours ago, I'd be shouting, "Don't make me pull this car over."

Since it is not several hours ago, I'm going to see if this has a happy ending eventually.
 
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so she hijacks a thread to argue with people and then wonders why people ignore her

yeah

go figure :rolleyes:
And another thing...
WHO told you I WONDER why people ignore me?

I mean, really. what goes on here at CC????

I wonder no such thing.

I get along well with 90% of everyone here.
And the other 10% I pray for.
 
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If this exchange was a few minutes ago, instead of several hours ago, I'd be shouting, "Don't make me pull this car over."

Since it is not several hours ago, I'm going to see if this has a happy ending eventually.
No happy ending Depleted.
Sorry.

There are some here that insist on attacking me personally.
I don't know why.
Maybe I'm really a very mean person. Who knows?

Anyway, if persons are expousing biblical concepts which are new and incorrect teachings, I'm going to say it...
No matter who likes it and who doesn't.

I just think it's really comedic to be discussing what's wrong with the BDF, and we're proving what's wrong with it RIGHT HERE!!

Chistians should act lilke Christians.