THREE WOES

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Hello all; I am Robert of the tribe Leo, if you know me then we have probably already had our debates over the more mundane matters. This thread is important because it is a guide book about what signs to watch for and what not to be afraid of, but most importantly what to prepare for. The warriors amongst you know of which I speak.

As usual on these threads I ask that you do not get lazy and paste someone else's words...been there,ok? we want to hear your most intelligent well thought out ideas on each subject,not some bozo parroting the same crap! {who you don't truly know where their heart lies}.

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Now then; I believe the true tribulation begins with the three woes. announced in rev 8/13, #1 begins with the bottomless pit blowing its cork, [rev 9/2] which spews smoke for God knows how long! at least til the smoke begins to blot the sun and make the moon look red. Ya'll check this out and let me know if I'm warm so far? please let me know your thoughts on the other 2 woes.
 
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funny, the 3 woes are in black & white as is the # of the beast yet no debates on either, had i put up some drivel about the rapture which is not clear there'd be 5 pages of feedback!maybe the no pasting thing limits some peoples intelligence!
 
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Why are you angry? No one is interested in commenting on your post. Sometimes, these things happen.
A person of 56 should know better.
 
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I'm already feeling woeful .............. sigh ............

WHAT? I can't COPY AND PASTE?

(outtahere...........)

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yeah i suppose i was just tryin to help, certainly nothing to get angry about.knowledge earned is much sweeter than knowledge given. p.s. when you say you've read the Bible, the title doesn't count.
 
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leo1 said:
yeah i suppose i was just tryin to help, certainly nothing to get angry about.knowledge earned is much sweeter than knowledge given. p.s. when you say you've read the Bible, the title doesn't count.
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"when you say you've read the Bible, the title doesn't count"

Now, that right there is funny, I don't care who you are........... :)


1st Corinthians 15:50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 .) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 .) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 .) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 .) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 .) O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 .) The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 .) But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

omygoodness........ I copied and pasted......shhhh, maybe no one will notice........ OH NO! sigh......I also posted "dribble" Well people will surely notice now.
 
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one good thing; if Father ever calls the smartasses to war, there's plenty! but when you do talk to him you can't say "nobody ever tried to tell me.
 
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leo1 said:
Hello all; I am Robert of the tribe Leo, if you know me then we have probably already had our debates over the more mundane matters. This thread is important because it is a guide book about what signs to watch for and what not to be afraid of, but most importantly what to prepare for. The warriors amongst you know of which I speak.

As usual on these threads I ask that you do not get lazy and paste someone else's words...been there,ok? we want to hear your most intelligent well thought out ideas on each subject,not some bozo parroting the same crap! {who you don't truly know where their heart lies}.

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Now then; I believe the true tribulation begins with the three woes. announced in rev 8/13, #1 begins with the bottomless pit blowing its cork, [rev 9/2] which spews smoke for God knows how long! at least til the smoke begins to blot the sun and make the moon look red. Ya'll check this out and let me know if I'm warm so far? please let me know your thoughts on the other 2 woes.
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here is something i think that should always be accounted for when looking at the woe's,plagues,ect. ,,becouse as you say copy/paste has really done nothing other than confuse any of these scriptures more and more,that is they only repeat the same errors,,,

in rev.7;3 it is said not to hurt the trees,earth ect. until those are sealed with the (mark of god/6th seal),,,then in rev. 7;7 the same is mentioned but at this time the "permission to hurt is given",(so at this time rev.7;7,,all have been sealed with the name of god.,,,in rev. 9;4 notice that these woes,plaugues ect. are only sent upon those "BUT ONLY THOSE MEN WHICH HAVE NOT THE SEAL OF GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS",,so at this time in prophecy "all are either sealed with the mark of god or the mark of the beast",,,

we know this because the woes,plagues,ect. are only sent upon those who have the name of the beast or the number of his name or worship his image.,,,, and from the scriptures i have provided we know that those with the mark of god are protected from these woes,plagues ect.,,,

so these two things according to scripture must take place first,,,(1)those with the seal of god must be sealed,,,(2) those with the mark of the beast must receive the mark,,,before any of the woes,plagues,ect. can proceed.,,,

there are many preachers,t.v. Evangelist,ect.ect. which try to atribute the events in the worlds history as to being fulfilled as "one of the woes",,"plagues of god sent in the earth",,,ect.ect.,,,,,but the same cannot explain as to if they are woes,or plagues,,,,then "WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST???",,,that is if men do not already have the mark of the beast,then the woes,plagues ect. cannot be sent forth unto them.

so you see they are faced with a deli-ma,,,either they are completely incorrect or men already have the mark of the beast but do not understand it,,,,,,,,,,
 
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Does this have any revelation to to revelation 9 ?

Joel 2

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2 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
 
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now even though these cannot come till those are sealed with the name of god or the mark of the beast,,,is it possible that the mark of the beast is in the earth already,and mankind does not recognize it?,,,,you see most 90 percent of the earth from around the early 90's till now all have a number in their fore heads that represents their name(pin number) and they use it to buy and sell world wide,but no one suspects it.

so ponder just how then if these things happening in the earth,woes.plagues ect. and are poured out on those with the "pin number in their foreheads",,,but they do not repent of this and continue on using the number of their name and repent not.

so just how astounding are the woes,plagues?,,,seems if they were as definitely easy to recognize as we would think then every man would through of the mark and bow down,,,but as we know they do see the plagues but do not understand them as woes or plagues because as the scripture says ,,well they just continue on using the mark to buy and sell,,as if they are confused and do not believe they are incorrect,,,,

so you see these things you are convinced are the fulfillment of the woes and the plaugues "very well could be",,,but the mark,,,are these already sealed?,,,and then so you see from these receiving the number of their names in their foreheads,,,the plaues and woes can come and be fulfilled,,,,,,the mark is all that need be accounted for to proceed,,,,,,,,,
 
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iamsoandso said:
now even though these cannot come till those are sealed with the name of god or the mark of the beast,,,is it possible that the mark of the beast is in the earth already,and mankind does not recognize it?,,,,you see most 90 percent of the earth from around the early 90's till now all have a number in their fore heads that represents their name(pin number) and they use it to buy and sell world wide,but no one suspects it.

so ponder just how then if these things happening in the earth,woes.plagues ect. and are poured out on those with the "pin number in their foreheads",,,but they do not repent of this and continue on using the number of their name and repent not.

so just how astounding are the woes,plagues?,,,seems if they were as definitely easy to recognize as we would think then every man would through of the mark and bow down,,,but as we know they do see the plagues but do not understand them as woes or plagues because as the scripture says ,,well they just continue on using the mark to buy and sell,,as if they are confused and do not believe they are incorrect,,,,

so you see these things you are convinced are the fulfillment of the woes and the plaugues "very well could be",,,but the mark,,,are these already sealed?,,,and then so you see from these receiving the number of their names in their foreheads,,,the plaues and woes can come and be fulfilled,,,,,,the mark is all that need be accounted for to proceed,,,,,,,,,
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seriously? no, really, seriously?

............sigh............

(somewhere in Heaven, I can just see God lowering His head in sadness, and shaking it side to side)
 
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you must not have looked up the scriptures i provided in post 9,,,,,the woes nor the plagues until there are sealed both those of god and the devil,,,,,,,
 
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you must not have looked up the scriptures i provided in post 9,,,,,the woes nor the plagues until there are sealed both those of god and the devil,,,,,,,
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Well, maybe, but my PIN number isn't in there.......so I refer you to my previous post/comment.
 
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his is 600,60,and 6,,,,,,then there is 667,668,669,,ect.,,,"we receive our own",,,we have a "name that we live",,,,,"legion for we are many",,,,,,,,,,
 
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I have tried to look at everything that happens in rev as being thru a naturally occurring phenomenon, using this theory I believe the 1st Woe begins at rev 9/2 with the bottomless pit being opened and smoke pouring out like a great furnace. Could this be a volcano or caldera? so the sun and the air are darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit, could this be what Jesus was speaking of in matt 24/29?could be that the smoke floating above us will have a reddish hue, blocking the sun and reddening the moon. the first woe lasts until rev 9/12. the second woe begins there.

BTW while we're on Matt 24 does any one have an answer to the riddle of verse 28?
 
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leo,,,,earthquake(s),,in diver(s),,,place(s),,,,,,,,,,,war(s),,,rumor(s),,,of war(s),,,,,,,,,,,,plural,not singular,,,,everything he said is plural,,,,,,,it happens(devil mimic's it),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,THEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN,,,,,"in fulfillment of Christ return",,,,,,,,,,first the man of sin rises,,,,,,,,then the lord returns,,,,,,
 
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more than one makes sense, that 1 in iceland shut down europe pretty quick, imagine what a couple could do?joel 2/2
 
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so the start of the first woe the pit(s) open,belches smoke into the atmosphere, the locusts [satans angels] begin to influence the bulk of the people {a touch over 6 billion}for 5 months getting the global monetary system underway{mark of the beast is anyone who goes along with bit coin or what ever they decide on} once you cannot buy or sell without being part of the global system, they gotcha!1st woe is done, rev 9/12!all this time the witnesses are praying for the plagues to come on the earth,this angers the 6 billion and they order them killed rev 9/18,11/7, once the last one dies the big earthquake hits kills 7 thousand and ends the second woe rev 11/14.
 
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iamsoandso said:
his is 600,60,and 6,,,,,,then there is 667,668,669,,ect.,,,"we receive our own",,,we have a "name that we live",,,,,"legion for we are many",,,,,,,,,,
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speak for yourself please..........
 
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