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It's because people believe the false doctrine that God tempts people to do evil and don't know the Bible verse that clearly refutes that lie.
People suffer because there is evil in the world and because of sin.
What people don't realize is that it might not be THEIR son that makes that person suffer...
JESUS was sinless yet he diedd a hoRRIBLE death on the cross.
Do people truly know WHY?
People suffer because there is evil in the world and because of sin.
What people don't realize is that it might not be THEIR son that makes that person suffer...
JESUS was sinless yet he diedd a hoRRIBLE death on the cross.
Do people truly know WHY?
Christian can deny Christ but he cannot deny he has paid the full wage
I would think you would first have to believe in the idea of ex Christians to begin with. Christian in respect to the bride of Christ is a word that denotes new creatures given a new spirit that could never die.
The word Christian the new name God named his bride , when defined and adding no other meaning show residents of the heavenly city prepared as His eternal bride inn respect to Christ the founder.
It is just like the residents of any city . Like the Thessalonians, residents of the city of Thessaloniki founded as its founder or Nicolaitanes founded after its founder Nicole.,
I would think you would first have to believe in the idea of ex Christians to begin with. Christian in respect to the bride of Christ is a word that denotes new creatures given a new spirit that could never die.
The word Christian the new name God named his bride , when defined and adding no other meaning show residents of the heavenly city prepared as His eternal bride inn respect to Christ the founder.
It is just like the residents of any city . Like the Thessalonians, residents of the city of Thessaloniki founded as its founder or Nicolaitanes founded after its founder Nicole.,
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Where in the Bible does it say God is a raging drunk?
What are your opinion on cannibals and child molester?
I admit mine is not so compassionate and I wonder why God allows them to live in the Earth among us at all.
The Bible says that the Enemy plants thorns among God's wheat. But eventually Judgment day will come.
What are your opinion on cannibals and child molester?
I admit mine is not so compassionate and I wonder why God allows them to live in the Earth among us at all.
The Bible says that the Enemy plants thorns among God's wheat. But eventually Judgment day will come.
1Jo 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Some are ravaged by legalists they forsake fellowship in an assembly but do not deny Christ.
Ac 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Some are ravaged by legalists they forsake fellowship in an assembly but do not deny Christ.
Ac 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
For the cause of Christ
Roger
To the OP:
On your Profile page, you claim to be a Christian. Please explain how you reconcile that claim with what you are posting here? Why should your claim be believed and the Word of God not?
You look for PROOF, valid, documented, etc. of miracles and such, do you have such proof of your claim to be a Christian, or are we just to take your claim on faith?
Tables can be turned, and, as with your logic, be proven to be not what they seem to be.
Point being, you want people to believe and accept that you are a Christian, but then believe and accept the various reasons you give for NOT being a Christian............
On your Profile page, you claim to be a Christian. Please explain how you reconcile that claim with what you are posting here? Why should your claim be believed and the Word of God not?
You look for PROOF, valid, documented, etc. of miracles and such, do you have such proof of your claim to be a Christian, or are we just to take your claim on faith?
Tables can be turned, and, as with your logic, be proven to be not what they seem to be.
Point being, you want people to believe and accept that you are a Christian, but then believe and accept the various reasons you give for NOT being a Christian............
1. The proper term is probably false Christians. False doctrines like the 70week still being in the future is one of their promotions.
2. The inconsistency is in the way we understand the book rather than the book is flawed. Quick solution Take Ge:1-3 as being about v who God is and what this earth is about. The rest of the book is about the two bruises in Ge:3:15. Moses was the start of the group called the 'seed of Eve' and the cross was the completion of all things associated with the bruise to the heel. The 7 trumps will nark the end of the other bruise, that would be the last verse in Re:19.
3. The false Clergy uses hell as a way to extort people out of money as they promote that being a member of their group will save you from going there no matter how much you sin. If you die before the last verse in Re:19 you go to sleep until Judgment Day. If that last verse in Re:19 kills you you go to hell until Judgment Day and death covers all sins so you are clean when you are resurrected. That group is the 2nd group mentioned in Re:7
4. There is not supposed to be any proof that God exists. The book is the only gathering tool in the period of time knows as 'the time of the Gentiles' that started in 70AD (Luke:21:24) and ends the day the two witnesses start their testimony 1230 days before the return. 1260 days is also how long it was between the time John the Baptist was called by God and the day of the cross.
5. Perhaps the people who have that opinion are in delusion about who God is. Take the grief He felt in Ge:6. The general view is He hated mankind from that moment on. Believers would see that grief being there because of what the fallen angels were doing to humans. It was an extermination program to prevent there being a seed of Eve to fulfill the Ge:3:15 prophecy. God let it go on until Noah and his wife and 3 sons were the only 5 fingered people left alive. The 3 wives were female giants and the son that moved to Canaan is where the giants in the exodus wars came from.
That promotion has lot more points in it. God killed many of the 12 Tribes after they left Egypt. In the end that increases the size of them when they are resurrected. The whole nation that had girls taken away and married into the are included as being part of the 12 Tribes.
The hatred for the OT God is because the message is freedom rather than control. The Clergy is not interested in the freedom of 'their flock' at the moment, they work for the bankers and their religion is satanic.
2. The inconsistency is in the way we understand the book rather than the book is flawed. Quick solution Take Ge:1-3 as being about v who God is and what this earth is about. The rest of the book is about the two bruises in Ge:3:15. Moses was the start of the group called the 'seed of Eve' and the cross was the completion of all things associated with the bruise to the heel. The 7 trumps will nark the end of the other bruise, that would be the last verse in Re:19.
3. The false Clergy uses hell as a way to extort people out of money as they promote that being a member of their group will save you from going there no matter how much you sin. If you die before the last verse in Re:19 you go to sleep until Judgment Day. If that last verse in Re:19 kills you you go to hell until Judgment Day and death covers all sins so you are clean when you are resurrected. That group is the 2nd group mentioned in Re:7
4. There is not supposed to be any proof that God exists. The book is the only gathering tool in the period of time knows as 'the time of the Gentiles' that started in 70AD (Luke:21:24) and ends the day the two witnesses start their testimony 1230 days before the return. 1260 days is also how long it was between the time John the Baptist was called by God and the day of the cross.
5. Perhaps the people who have that opinion are in delusion about who God is. Take the grief He felt in Ge:6. The general view is He hated mankind from that moment on. Believers would see that grief being there because of what the fallen angels were doing to humans. It was an extermination program to prevent there being a seed of Eve to fulfill the Ge:3:15 prophecy. God let it go on until Noah and his wife and 3 sons were the only 5 fingered people left alive. The 3 wives were female giants and the son that moved to Canaan is where the giants in the exodus wars came from.
That promotion has lot more points in it. God killed many of the 12 Tribes after they left Egypt. In the end that increases the size of them when they are resurrected. The whole nation that had girls taken away and married into the are included as being part of the 12 Tribes.
The hatred for the OT God is because the message is freedom rather than control. The Clergy is not interested in the freedom of 'their flock' at the moment, they work for the bankers and their religion is satanic.
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Wow! You have a strange concept of "good reasons." All I see are excuses. God is still God. He is sovereign, so why are you buying the childish excuses for why people walk away?
Let me go down this list.
#1. Really? If it is true people walk away because there are Christians following the Lord, (which is what "Christian" means in the first place -- followers of Christ), then why did they become Christians in the first place? Had to know you're joining the very reason for your excuse to walk away. Something like hating rap and yet surprised you ran into a whole bunch of people who like rap because you went to a rap concert. Moronic excuse.
# 2 Biblical inconsistencies? Yes! I saw the same problem in my science textbooks. It was inconsistent. It tells me plants need soil to live and yet I put plants in Virginia red clay and they died. Surely the textbook must be wrong! When the truth is I didn't read the textbook to find out what I missed. Again, stupid excuse!
# 3 Hell theology? What? They are pro or anti hell? Because there is hell, so that can't be it. Or is it the obvious one -- they don't like God putting "good people" in hell? Well, gee whiz! Why did they come to him, if they thought they were good people? And given we all thought we were good people before coming to the Lord, and then quickly learned differently, why would they think there are any good people? God's word clearly says, "None are good, no not one." It says "Man's heart is on evil continuously." Don't they think those people deserve hell? So, if they don't like "hell theology," they, obviously never came to the Lord in the first place, because this is quite a bit about how evil we are, and much, much, MUCH more on how good God is. So, that one probably deserves first place in the Bad Excuse list.
#4 Lack of miracles? So, their big upset is God didn't fix them or a love one after praying to him? Again, moronic! God is not a three-wish genie. He is God. They didn't get that big miracle because of the very concept of miracles. God has established an order to the universe. Things work like they do because he established it that way. Miracles are those brief moments in time, when he rips into his divine order to do something different. (And, it is not always pretty. He ripped into his divine order to kill Herod and turn him into worm food instantly -- and I mean instantly. Right after he fell dead in his court, so it wasn't your normal worm-food scenario.) Miracle is out of the ordinary, not the ordinary. And, if they think they deserve one, they don't. It is a very special grace from God. AND, if they think miracles don't happen, again, they were never believers in the first place. The first miracle God does for all his people is to change them to believers. That IS a miracle! (And if they never met someone who had a miracle happen to them, it's just more proof they were never following the Lord.) So, that is just as lame an excuse as the rest. No reasoning involved at all.
#5 God's character? What about God's character? They don't like it? Pffft! Again, all that says is they expected a god they could make into their own image. God's character is in the Law! The Law is a perfect character profile for who God is. Something is wrong with that? No! No way! Something is wrong with the people who think they know better so should be able to fix God. Again, just another stupid excuse.
Reasoning? What's so hard with reasoning? God is reasonable, so reason exist. Using our brains to spot crap is bonus points.
And to be clear, I too have walked away. More than once. I can give you the momentary excuses why, but it came down to one reason -- "This is too hard and too painful."
It still is! And yet, I am his and he will either walk along with me to give me strength, or drag me kicking and screaming. There is no other way.
Let me go down this list.
#1. Really? If it is true people walk away because there are Christians following the Lord, (which is what "Christian" means in the first place -- followers of Christ), then why did they become Christians in the first place? Had to know you're joining the very reason for your excuse to walk away. Something like hating rap and yet surprised you ran into a whole bunch of people who like rap because you went to a rap concert. Moronic excuse.
# 2 Biblical inconsistencies? Yes! I saw the same problem in my science textbooks. It was inconsistent. It tells me plants need soil to live and yet I put plants in Virginia red clay and they died. Surely the textbook must be wrong! When the truth is I didn't read the textbook to find out what I missed. Again, stupid excuse!
# 3 Hell theology? What? They are pro or anti hell? Because there is hell, so that can't be it. Or is it the obvious one -- they don't like God putting "good people" in hell? Well, gee whiz! Why did they come to him, if they thought they were good people? And given we all thought we were good people before coming to the Lord, and then quickly learned differently, why would they think there are any good people? God's word clearly says, "None are good, no not one." It says "Man's heart is on evil continuously." Don't they think those people deserve hell? So, if they don't like "hell theology," they, obviously never came to the Lord in the first place, because this is quite a bit about how evil we are, and much, much, MUCH more on how good God is. So, that one probably deserves first place in the Bad Excuse list.
#4 Lack of miracles? So, their big upset is God didn't fix them or a love one after praying to him? Again, moronic! God is not a three-wish genie. He is God. They didn't get that big miracle because of the very concept of miracles. God has established an order to the universe. Things work like they do because he established it that way. Miracles are those brief moments in time, when he rips into his divine order to do something different. (And, it is not always pretty. He ripped into his divine order to kill Herod and turn him into worm food instantly -- and I mean instantly. Right after he fell dead in his court, so it wasn't your normal worm-food scenario.) Miracle is out of the ordinary, not the ordinary. And, if they think they deserve one, they don't. It is a very special grace from God. AND, if they think miracles don't happen, again, they were never believers in the first place. The first miracle God does for all his people is to change them to believers. That IS a miracle! (And if they never met someone who had a miracle happen to them, it's just more proof they were never following the Lord.) So, that is just as lame an excuse as the rest. No reasoning involved at all.
#5 God's character? What about God's character? They don't like it? Pffft! Again, all that says is they expected a god they could make into their own image. God's character is in the Law! The Law is a perfect character profile for who God is. Something is wrong with that? No! No way! Something is wrong with the people who think they know better so should be able to fix God. Again, just another stupid excuse.
Reasoning? What's so hard with reasoning? God is reasonable, so reason exist. Using our brains to spot crap is bonus points.
And to be clear, I too have walked away. More than once. I can give you the momentary excuses why, but it came down to one reason -- "This is too hard and too painful."
It still is! And yet, I am his and he will either walk along with me to give me strength, or drag me kicking and screaming. There is no other way.
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well here it is
I think one of the main reasons is/are Christians themselves
and that's right...we can't blame someone else for that...but how does God view it?
something about putting an anchor around your neck and going swimming in the deep blue sea?
we cannot see God but the entire world sees those who say they do
quite the enigma
I think one of the main reasons is/are Christians themselves
and that's right...we can't blame someone else for that...but how does God view it?
something about putting an anchor around your neck and going swimming in the deep blue sea?
we cannot see God but the entire world sees those who say they do
quite the enigma
Romans 10 : 9-10 ,"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." According to this passage, once you believe, you ARE SAVED, and we know that we are sealed unto the day of redemption, nothing and NOBODY can take that away from us.