Understanding of the Eight day of Creation

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[h=2]Genesis 1:26- We have the word man, or adam ( adam meaning man ): God created man, on the sixth day. ( no article nor particle, & with Elohim ). Those are important to be able to tell the difference between the man mentioned later.[/h][h=2]When man is mentioned in Genesis 1: 27: , it is ‘eth-’Ha adham ( Hebrew characters too ) Just like we find in Genesis 2:.[/h][h=2]So there is not only one mention of the man with the particle an article , in Genesis chapter 2:7[/h][h=2]If all races of people were created on the sixth day ( omit thee “Adam” through whom Christ would be born ), why then do we find the ‘eth-’Ha adham mentioned on the sixth day ( verse 27 ) ?[/h][h=2]The reason is : first we have in verse 26 “”Let us make man ( adam/man without article etc) in our image, after our likeness:”” Not God, but Elohim ( plural- the angles, or God & the angels ) .[/h][h=2]Then in verse 27 : we find ‘eth-’Ha adham in this verse also.
Note: ( for we non Hebrew scholars : ) when we look at the “Hebrew lettering” for the word adam/man in ( verse 26 ) without article nor particle; we can recognize it by comparing the length of the characters with the “man” found in verse 27 .I will post a image of a copy of these manuscripts in Hebrew ( Images are from the Greens Interlinear OT & NT.

[/h][h=2]Bullinger says: “Here the Hebrew ‘adam has the article, and the demonstrative Hebrew ‘eth, to indicate that the man adam created in chapter 2:7 was the “man” here purposed.”[/h][h=2]Basically ,from what I can grasp ; we don’t have the Elohim here in this instance, we just have God. And His intent to create ” ‘eth-’Ha adham” we find later, in Chapter 2:7. This offering a reason He would include Himself, in the statement in verse 26 along with the angels. Christ would be in God’s image ( Hebrews 1:3 ).[/h][h=2]Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;……[/h][h=2]This show why we have the “man” , mentioned in Genesis 1:27, and further the absence of a tiller of soil on day six. And why we have a tiller of the soil being created after day seven, on the 8th day, that day Adam and Eve were told they would die in that” day” .[/h][h=2]( I”ll add quotes )
Genesis 1:27 So ” God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; ” male and female created he them.[/h][h=2]In God’s image here alone. Back in verse 26 we see, adam, as in man, without the article = Hebrew of mankind, and the inclusion of the Elohim :[/h][h=2]26 And God said, Let us make man in our image ( Elohim – plural ), after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.[/h][h=2]( Genesis 2 )[/h]

The Hebrew characters of verse Genesis 1: 26 is shorter in length; then ‘eth-’Ha adham you find in verse 1:27, & 2: 7, Which is much longer: showing the particle and article.
[h=2]Hope this made sense . Not sure if bullinger believed that this is two separate creations of peoples, But I believe for the most part the evidence here is for that direction . It clears up why we have “thee man” mentioned in Genesis 1:27. And adds more clarity to the English .[/h][h=2]Now the only reason Adam is singled out in Genesis 2:7 is because Christ would be born through that seed line, through Eve.[/h][h=2]Though there were other peoples already created: Eve would not be known as the mother of all. But the mother of all living eternally . Because through Eve, to Mary, would eventually arrive Christ; who we are either in Him; if not we don’t have that eternal life.[/h][h=2]It also is the reason why Satan, would target Eve in Eden. And why the sons of God, ( fallen angels ) of Genesis 6: would attack Noah, and the daughters of ‘eth-’Ha adham. ( Jude 1 )[/h]
 

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It also is the reason why Satan, would target Eve in Eden. And why the sons of God, ( fallen angels ) of Genesis 6: would attack Noah, and the daughters of ‘eth-’Ha adham. ( Jude 1 )
Pretty interesting topic, Eight day of Creation since the evening and morning were the first day.

Thus, seeing that darkness was upon the face of the deep when the Spirit of God walked upon the water in Genesis 1:2, then as written in John 8:12; Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life" then got to admit you got a pretty good eye to have seen that one.

Yet seeing that the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world has the book of life, then doesn't Satan's book of knowledge of good and evil mention the fact that the Adam's wife was not named Eve until after the Woman ate from the tree in the field since the serpent was the most subtle beast of the field that the LORD God had made. After all if the serpent could speak in tongues in order to communicate with the Woman then would it seem logical that the serpent couldn't have also taught himself how to write a book since it is written, "I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth." [See 1 John 2:21]

PSSS. Deuteronomy 4:35 might be a scripture you can get behind.
 
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trofimus

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Just a note - the masoretic hebrew text of Genesis is from the 9th century AD.

It is at least 2000 years away from the original. Do you think it is wise to count on the definite article in it? Just a question.
 

p_rehbein

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um..........er............so, you are saying that there were many, many "man" in Eden? um........er........
 

wolfwint

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"Now the only reason Adam is singled out in Genesis 2:7 is because Christ would be born through that seed line, through Eve.

Though there were other peoples already created: Eve would not be known as the mother of all. But the mother of all living eternally . Because through Eve, to Mary, would eventually arrive Christ; who we are either in Him; if not we don’t have that eternal life."

An interesting theorie, but then you have to think further!
If only Adam and Eve has sinned and so their heritage line. Then the other people had not sinned and were not fallen under the curse! To there woman had no pain when they delivered a child. They would be not separatet from God. They dont need the forgiveness from Jesus Christ! (only some points)Where these other people has gone? Died they with the flood? How God can state that only Noah lived a righteous life, if there are many people which are not fallen under the sin?And will you say that all people from the line of Eva will be saved for eternety?

Sorry, this idea is eisegese and an idea of man, but is talking against the whole scripture!
 

JesusLives

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Bible talks about 7 days.....Where you getting 8?
 
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I find these words interesting, create, form, made.
 
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I find these words interesting, create, form, made.
Kind of like how two different words are applied unto Adam and Eve....Created Adam....MADE EVE...

I posted this before.....

God put Adam asleep
Cut open his side
Took out a curved piece (rib)
MADE EVE
Closed Adam back up

WHY did God do it that way? Why did HE need to knock ADAM out, cut him open, get genetic material from Adam, make EVE and sew (close) Adam back up?

What is a trip to me about this is a similar event happened to a friend who died from a rare, unknown cancer in Barnes Hospital in St. Louis....at the time a massive cancer meeting was going on with doctors from all over the world being here....they could not figure out what type of cancer was killing Gary...and it was growing out of a rib..they

Knocked Gary out
Cut his side open
Took genetic material from a rib
Sewed Gary back up

and grew the cancer in a deal and then began testing it...they said the ribs have very good genetic material for study...

NOW that blows my mind.......!
 
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This is a head scratcher too. was the animals from the ground first or man, sems we may have two accounts.

"And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof" (Genesis 2:18-19).
 

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Genesis 1:26- We have the word man, or adam ( adam meaning man ): God created man, on the sixth day. ( no article nor particle, & with Elohim ). Those are important to be able to tell the difference between the man mentioned later.

When man is mentioned in Genesis 1: 27: , it is ‘eth-’Ha adham ( Hebrew characters too ) Just like we find in Genesis 2:.

So there is not only one mention of the man with the particle an article , in Genesis chapter 2:7

If all races of people were created on the sixth day ( omit thee “Adam” through whom Christ would be born ), why then do we find the ‘eth-’Ha adham mentioned on the sixth day ( verse 27 ) ?

The reason is : first we have in verse 26 “”Let us make man ( adam/man without article etc) in our image, after our likeness:”” Not God, but Elohim ( plural- the angles, or God & the angels ) .

Then in verse 27 : we find ‘eth-’Ha adham in this verse also.
Note: ( for we non Hebrew scholars : ) when we look at the “Hebrew lettering” for the word adam/man in ( verse 26 ) without article nor particle; we can recognize it by comparing the length of the characters with the “man” found in verse 27 .I will post a image of a copy of these manuscripts in Hebrew ( Images are from the Greens Interlinear OT & NT.



Bullinger says: “Here the Hebrew ‘adam has the article, and the demonstrative Hebrew ‘eth, to indicate that the man adam created in chapter 2:7 was the “man” here purposed.”

Basically ,from what I can grasp ; we don’t have the Elohim here in this instance, we just have God. And His intent to create ” ‘eth-’Ha adham” we find later, in Chapter 2:7. This offering a reason He would include Himself, in the statement in verse 26 along with the angels. Christ would be in God’s image ( Hebrews 1:3 ).

Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;……


This show why we have the “man” , mentioned in Genesis 1:27, and further the absence of a tiller of soil on day six. And why we have a tiller of the soil being created after day seven, on the 8th day, that day Adam and Eve were told they would die in that” day” .

( I”ll add quotes )
Genesis 1:27 So ” God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; ” male and female created he them.


In God’s image here alone. Back in verse 26 we see, adam, as in man, without the article = Hebrew of mankind, and the inclusion of the Elohim :

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image ( Elohim – plural ), after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

( Genesis 2 )


The Hebrew characters of verse Genesis 1: 26 is shorter in length; then ‘eth-’Ha adham you find in verse 1:27, & 2: 7, Which is much longer: showing the particle and article.
Hope this made sense . Not sure if bullinger believed that this is two separate creations of peoples, But I believe for the most part the evidence here is for that direction . It clears up why we have “thee man” mentioned in Genesis 1:27. And adds more clarity to the English .

Now the only reason Adam is singled out in Genesis 2:7 is because Christ would be born through that seed line, through Eve.

Though there were other peoples already created: Eve would not be known as the mother of all. But the mother of all living eternally . Because through Eve, to Mary, would eventually arrive Christ; who we are either in Him; if not we don’t have that eternal life.

It also is the reason why Satan, would target Eve in Eden. And why the sons of God, ( fallen angels ) of Genesis 6: would attack Noah, and the daughters of ‘eth-’Ha adham. ( Jude 1 )
That is the problem of resorting to the Hebrew & Greek in trying to understand His message that way. As I have posted elsewhere...... the problem of modern & individual translators is that they do not translate in context the meaning of the message with His wisdom.

The second account of Genesis is the same account of the sixth day of creation. I can prove that with His help for you to see. Genesis 1:1 is the topic header whereas the following verses explained how God did it. This topic does not end until Genesis 2:3. To illustrate this point that what you are reading as a second account is another topic on were the generations of men had come from, I need to start with the first account.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.[SUP]3 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The earth was not there the first day. All that was there, was water everywhere. Light came and that was and is the Word of God in making that first day.

[SUP]6 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.[SUP]7 [/SUP]And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Now the earth is starting to be formed as a water planet with an upper atmosphere on the 2nd day.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.[SUP]10 [/SUP]And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.[SUP]11 [/SUP]And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Now the earth has been fully formed and with plant life that third day.


[SUP]14 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:[SUP]15 [/SUP]And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.[SUP]16 [/SUP]And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.[SUP]17 [/SUP]And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,[SUP]18 [/SUP]And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.[SUP]19 [/SUP]And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.


Now the heavens were created to give light to the earth to govern the earth for its times and seasons. Now God has created the heavens and the earth and is about to bring life in the sea & air on the fifth day and life on land on the sixth day, but we shall skip over that to the end of this account to show where the second account is juts a more detailed account on what had happened the sixth day.

Genesis 2:1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.[SUP]3 [/SUP]And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

That is the end of the first topic as stated in verse 1 about how God created the heaven and the earth.

Now begins the second topic which is a more detailed account of the sixth day because that was where mankind had sprung from.

Genesis 2:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,[SUP]

That is the topic; it is about the generations of mankind.

5 [/SUP]And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

That tells us this is a recount of the sixth day because there is no man yet to till the ground.

So you made a mistake in understanding the message when you had zeroed in on certain words out of a verses or verses that would mislead you into thinking this was another account of creation.

The Bible means exactly what it has written that Eve really was named such because she was and is the mother of all the living.

Just as only eight souls survived the global flood and all mankind had come from Noah and his family.
 

NayborBear

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There seems to evidence of a "truth" (or perhaps a curse), that King David stated about (paraphrasing here): "Always seeing yet never percieveing, always hearing, yet never understanding, that comes into "play", whenever somone "strays" (if I might use such a term), FROM, the most common forms of (or tenets), of a born again believer. This always seems to occur, when (and, I'm going to use the parable of the talents here), when, a believer "invests/grows" ones' talent, and thusly rewarded (by the Grace of God), with yet more TO invest/grow! Not saying by any stretch of the imagination (if you will), that believers that don't "get it", are not saved for this current everlasting (earth/heaven age, which, by the way, runs simultaneously, at the same time with each other), but, is in danger, of having taken from them, that which they at one time, DID possess. In this case in the former everlasting. For this reason, are believers instructed to "Press on, to the HIGH CALLING of God, IN Christ Jesus Our High Priest and Kinsmen Redeemer!"

To reiterate, a great biblical scholar and teacher: "If you don't "get it"?.....Put it on a shelf, for later!"

Further "issues/confusion" seem to arise, when those, who have "passed through the "Sheep Pen" via the "Sheep's Gate", Unto, Our Father. When they are doing efforts of Our Father: In the Heaven age, whilst they are yet in flesh bodies, or? this current earth age!
"WHERE IS this place, I am doing this/these things?" Along with "And just HOW does this "relate" to MY walk with Christ?"

Pilgrims, we are! If a believer is not not able to "get over yourself" (flesh), then, How can a believer "leave" their flesh, in order to be "born (again) OF the Spirit?"
 
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Hey we be in the 10th day, the bar n circle. I know that's alittle to much to grasp. Maybe one day.
 
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And the first day now that was our galaxy being created, about what man could see with human eyes. Earth was in the mix too :)
 
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I don't believe Eve came from Adams Rib. The manuscripts say that God took the Curve from Adam. The Curve being the DNA as we know it now. At the printing of the Bible they didn't know anything about DNA so they just took the Curve to be the Rib. Makes sense to me anyhow.


I'm not saying that God took 8 Days to recreate. I'm just saying that the Adam we speak of was created on the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] Day. All of the races were created on the 6[SUP]th[/SUP]day. Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them and God said to them be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the Fish of the sea and over the Fowl of the air and over every living thing that moveth upon the Earth. Read on and in verse 5 of Chapter 2 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LordGod had not caused it to rain upon the earth AND THERE WAS NOT A MAN TO TILL THE GROUND. If we read on we understand the creation of Adam and Eve. Thus the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] day of there being created.
 
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Why would there be 8 days of creation when the Bible says that God rested on the 7th day,and ceased from creating.Did He rest and go,whew,and then create after the rest day.Was He tuckered out from the 6 days of creating,and needed to rest on the 7th day,to give Him enough energy to create on the 8th day.Did He rest on the 7th day and went and played some golf,and enjoy life,and then back to the grindstone.

6 days creation,then the Bible says God rested from His creating on the 7th day.He was done creating on the 6th day.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Adam and Eve were both created on the 6th day,with Eve being created after Adam,after God gave him nappy time,the supernatural anesthesia.

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

God ended His work on the 7th day,and rested,which means He created for 6 days,and finished creating,no more to create,and rested on the 7th day,not to go back to creating,so why would there be an 8th day of creating.

Did God say whoops,I thought I had it all finished,but I missed a few things I wanted to create,I must be getting forgetful in My old age.

There was not a man to till the ground,for the garden was made before Adam was made.
 
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How can there be an 8th day when the 7th day never ended??
 
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Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

How can the races be created on the 6th day,and Adam and Eve created on the 8th day,when Eve is the mother of all living,and if Adam were created on the 8th day,so was Eve,for she was created after Adam,and if God created all the races on the 6th day,how is Eve the mother of all living upon the earth,if there is other people that did not come from her and Adam.