URGENT ENQUIRY ABOUT OCCULT PRACTICES

[ukok102nak]

:hrmm: then how come such an idea were been manifested
that an occult were involved unto them

:8) where we could find those so called justice when you need them most
as it is written
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Levitico: 19. 15. Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. 16. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

:smoke: and upon unto those things
which is to come
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Pahayag: 9. 12. One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. 13. And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14. Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15. And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

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godbless us all always

 

[Ugly]

We didn't go to priests.

I also called for priests to bless the apartment to no avail.
Thank you,
Lilian

Silly us. Where'd we ever get the idea you went to priests.

Not all priests are Catholic. There are priests of different denominations.

You mention going to priests, which suggests Catholocism.

I never stated it was a one and only fact, i stated that it SUGGESTED. So i didn't say you did, for a fact, go to a Catholic priest. But i suppose stopping to read the distinction would've been too easy.

She sent me to a private school to learn more about God.

I can tell the difference between a spiritual related issue and medical related issue

Please enlighten us all with scripture and details. Ariel has asked once already.

We never engaged in occult practices.

between the hours of 12pm and 2am when witches have covens.

You are just demonstrating your ignorance about the issue.

In all of your non-involvement in the occult, share with us how you became such an expert as to call others ignorant on the subject. And i mean besides quoting a few random OT scriptures.

No one will ever convince me otherwise!

Proverbs 12:11 - To learn, you must love discipline; it is stupid to hate correction.



I posted a few simple questions, all of which you ignored because you were too busy going on a rampage about how ignorant everyone is. I have a few more questions posted, of which i'm certain you'll completely ignore and fling more accusations at people, much like a monkey flinging it's poo.

You're so busy yelling 'WHY DIDN'T GOD DO MY WILL?!?!?!?!', did you ever stop to think maybe YOUR will wasn't the top of His priority list? You talk about having so much faith in God, but when things don't go according to how YOU want them to your faith goes out the window. Why have you not once considered maybe this was what God intended? And trust that, even if you can't understand it. Since you are such a pious and holy person with such much greater wisdom and understanding than everyone else.

 

[ukok102nak]

:smoke: it takes time to heal thats why she never meant to throw such words unto others for even us couldnt answered how many times a brocken soul could healed itself from the works of those evil things literally and spiritually

she was devastated from the evil things that were happened on their lives
perhaps when the time comes she would answer most of those questions which could enlighten each and everyone of us
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Matthew 21:24
but Jesus answered them, I also will ask you one question, which if ye tell me, I will likewise tell you by what authority I do these things.
25*The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves saying, If we say, from heaven, He will reply, Why then did ye not believe him?
26*But if we say, of men, we fear the people, for they all esteem John as a prophet.
27*And therefore in answer to Jesus, they said, We do not know: and He said unto them, Neither do I tell you, by what authority I do these things.

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godbless us all always

 

[TMS]

I can't judge what is demonic forces and what isn't but i do know that the closer we come to God the more Satan attacts us.
We are told to ENDURE the trials in many places. Look it up in your bible. God knew His people would need to endure hardship, He didn't say it would be an easy walk in the park. Look at Paul, and Joseph, and Job, Daniel, and Jeremiah just to mention a few. This is surely a time of trial but a time when your faith is being tried. To Trust in God and believe that He is on your side and will answer all your questions one day that's Faith.

 

[TMS]

3 Things remain
FAITH
HOPE
LOVE

 

[Demi777]

I'm sorry Demi777, her mother already passed away according to her post. Blessings sis!

Well I guess I missread that. oh well

 

[Ariel82]

Op is a troll...she may come back on to stir the pot, but she/he is just looking for a laugh not Christian fellowship.

 

[Ariel82]

Also why would anyone ask permission to pray for someone?

It's like asking a person in a burning house....would you mind if I came in there and rescued you?

We should definitely pray for the OP.

Dear Heavenly Father, you see the heart of everyone. May Your truth shine a light into all who have spent time and love responding to this thread. May Your love encompass them. May Your truth free them from their chains. May Your angels guide, protect and heal them of their spiritual scars. May your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. In Jesus name we pray, amen.

 

[ukok102nak]

:8) should we ask the holy scriptures about that
:read:
James 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

as our understanding about this verse is
we should seek the elders of the church and ask them to pray unto those people who were sick because of evil things
and if we continue to
:read:
James 5:15
and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16*Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another, that ye may be healed: the fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

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godbless us all always

 

[ZEEK]

Hi Lilian,
I am sorry your mother suffered so much, but she is at least now in a perfect place.

Ok, witchcraft is very very real. Moses encountered black magic of a very high level in Egypt.

A lot of magician's are Satanists, practising extreme forms of witchcraft. I saw one magician disembody his upper torso from his lower torso. This is Satanism. Lying Wonders. I know African people who have observed Voodoo Ceremonies. Many unbelievable things happen; for instance the witch doctor reaches in to the chest of a person, takes out a beating heart, and then puts it back. I have personal experience of deep occult attack, and I have had Christian friends beg me for intercession when they were under attack.

I had an occult woman once on a train try to control my thoughts; she just stared at me. I just sat there praying inwardly to Jesus. After an hour she ran out the carriage.

We are on the winning side.

 

[jaybird88]

the post makes no sense. the OP makes it very clear they know a great deal about witchcraft, occult and possession but yet has no idea what one does to counter it.

 

[Church2u2]

Also why would anyone ask permission to pray for someone?

It's like asking a person in a burning house....would you mind if I came in there and rescued you?

We should definitely pray for the OP.

Dear Heavenly Father, you see the heart of everyone. May Your truth shine a light into all who have spent time and love responding to this thread. May Your love encompass them. May Your truth free them from their chains. May Your angels guide, protect and heal them of their spiritual scars. May your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. In Jesus name we pray, amen.

I always ask that because sometimes people don't accept prayers from strangers. Some only accept prayer from their own pastor or some other Christian that they know.

 

[popeye]

:smoke: her statement were true and has nothing to do with intruducing someone
as she only wants all the help she could get to this bible forum as she believe in spirits she also believe to those people who were manifested by the holy spirit
and to those people who were enslave by the unholy spirits which she intruduced unto this thread that she made
as we also intruduced our selves in unexpected manner ... .

:8) did anyone remembered our brethren who was a former antichrist :rofl:
he has a lot story to tell which could open our heart and soul
from such situation like this involving evil things that leads a human body
to experienced those unexplainable pains and agony on their lives
even in the holy scriptures it is written
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Job: 2. 1. Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. 2. And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. 3. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. 4. And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. 5. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. 6. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. 7. So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown. 8. And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes. 9. Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die. 10. But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.
~:> AS WE CAN SEE HERE EVEN THE WIFE OF JOB ACCUSED HIM OF NOT BEING FAITHFUL TO GOD BUT BECAUSE JOB IS A HONEST PERSON HE EVEN TOLD WHAT IS REALLY GOIN ON TO HIM FOR HE IS BEEN PUNISHED BY THE EVIL THINGS AND NOT BY THE GOD HE TRULLY WORSHIPPED

:happy: also let us listen to this verse
:read:
1 Samuel: 16. 13. Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah. 14. But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. 15. And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. 16. Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well. 17. And Saul said unto his servants, Provide me now a man that can play well, and bring him to me. 18. Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing, and a mighty valiant man, and a man of war, and prudent in matters, and a comely person, and the LORD is with him. 19. Wherefore Saul sent messengers unto Jesse, and said, Send me David thy son, which is with the sheep. 20. And Jesse took an ass laden with bread, and a bottle of wine, and a kid, and sent them by David his son unto Saul. 21. And David came to Saul, and stood before him: and he loved him greatly; and he became his armourbearer. 22. And Saul sent to Jesse, saying, Let David, I pray thee, stand before me; for he hath found favour in my sight. 23. And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.
~:> SEE HOW GOD TESTED HIS PEOPLE FOR THIS IS WHAT THEY CALL
THE TRIAL OF WHICH IS TO COME .. . .

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godbless bless us all always

That analogy of Saul and the evil spirit upon him is not applicable.

That scenario resulted from the kingdom stripped from him THEN CAME THE EVIL SPIRIT. ( unless you are saying this dynamic is the case with the lady)

 

[popeye]

the post makes no sense. the OP makes it very clear they know a great deal about witchcraft, occult and possession but yet has no idea what one does to counter it.

Bingo.

We were given the power.

Cessationists can only attribute circumstances to God.

Hence "why did God blah,blah,blah"

We are poor carriers of power. God already did so all is DONE.

That is WHY God said "whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven...."

"whatever you ALLOW on earth will be allowed in heaven"

 

[popeye]

The strong man.

"then comes one stronger tan he and spoils,defeats the strong man.

Believer,"devil come out of her"

Devil " you can't cast us out"

Believer" Jesus can,He is up to any task"

Anytime you see a scenario where it appears the devil is stronger. You are looking straight at DECEPTION.

The devil looses every single time.

The devil however,is in the business of kickin our ever-loving rear ends all over this planet.

The remedy is multifaceted. But when Jesus handed the keys to us,and offers the power,and left us a bible,discernment,and even relevant words through his quickening voice,and teachers are busy disenfranchising the body of Christ of power through ignorant cessationist doctrine??????

No wonder someone comes in here with a "powerful" devil and believers hitting all around the core problem because we are too lazy and diluted to understand what is really happening.

Are we that dumb that we see a wimp in a believers house injecting her with viruses,disease,and filth,and we wonder why the homeowners association is not doing something??

Kick that sorry,no good punk outta there

 

[Ariel82]

I always ask that because sometimes people don't accept prayers from strangers. Some only accept prayer from their own pastor or some other Christian that they know.

I guess I am rude like that, I choose to pray for them even if they curse me for it.

 

[Ariel82]

No wonder someone comes in here with a "powerful" devil and believers hitting all around the core problem because we are too lazy and diluted to understand what is really happening.

Are we that dumb that we see a wimp in a believers house injecting her with viruses,disease,and filth,and we wonder why the homeowners association is not doing something??

Kick that sorry,no good punk outta there

Okay....now walk the talk

 

[popeye]

Okay....now walk the talk

Was walking with Jesus before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye

 

[ukok102nak]

That analogy of Saul and the evil spirit upon him is not applicable.

That scenario resulted from the kingdom stripped from him THEN CAME THE EVIL SPIRIT. ( unless you are saying this dynamic is the case with the lady)

:8) uless this part of the holy scriptures was known by your understanding
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1 Samuel: 15. 2. Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. 3. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 4. And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah. 5. And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley. 6. And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites. 7. And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt. 8. And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword. 9. But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.

SAUL SPARED ALL THAT WAS GOOD
BUT EVERY THING THAT WAS VILE AND REFUSE, THAT THEY DESTROYED UTTERLY

:now: we may ask you if saul is really a good man or not :hrmm:

:smoke: as it is written
:read:
Matthew 5:43
Ye have heard, that it has been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy:
44*but I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that abuse you and persecute you;
45*that ye may be the children of your heavenly Father; for He causeth his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain upon the just and the unjust.

AND REMEMBER THIS ARE NOT OUR WORDS
FOR THIS IS THE WORD OF OUR LORD GOD THE SON JESUS CHRIST

those evil spirits never learn to forgive but not all of them were unable to corrupt
those people who learned to forgive one another according to their sins
:read:
James 5:15
and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16*Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another, that ye may be healed: the fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

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godbless us all always

 

[Church2u2]

I guess I am rude like that, I choose to pray for them even if they curse me for it.

Well..if.that's how you choose to do it..Then all I can do is respect that.