VVhat is the Significance of Jesus' Divinity?

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CS1

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no sir i am not, i like it here, have friends here and i dont want to get banned.
then please take the information I have provided and know that I am not at liberty to speak of other people who have been banned. it's a thing called privacy; surely you understand that ? If anyone would like to PM me please do so I will answer in context to the rules of CC and what is allowed to be said I said it. :)
 
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The question is, vvhat is the significance of Jesus being divine? VVhat is the significance of Jesus being God, instead of not being God? If Jesus isn't God, and He isn't divine, does that change anything? If He is, then vvhat repercussions are there for those that don't believe He is, but proclaim belief in Him as Savior (believing He died for them and resurrected, lived a sinless life by the povver of the Holy Spirit, etc)?

I suppose the question that arises is, is belief in Jesus as God a necessity for salvation? Can one be a born-again Christian vvithout the belief that Jesus is God?
The significance of Jesus being divine is found within the doctrine of how we understand God according to the proper manner of spirit.

2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

One cannot be a born-again Christian without His belief or faith that he exercises towards us that Jesus is God. But not in respect that his literal flesh and blood did not profit .it is the pouring out unseen Spirit of Christ that does.?


It is because in the beginning Adam and Eve walked after empiricism and not by faith (the unseen) that we have the confusion today.
 
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The significance of Jesus being divine is found within the doctrine of how we understand God according to the proper manner of spirit.

2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

One cannot be a born-again Christian without His belief or faith that he exercises towards us that Jesus is God. But not in respect that his literal flesh and blood did not profit .it is the pouring out unseen Spirit of Christ that does.?


It is because in the beginning Adam and Eve walked after empiricism and not by faith (the unseen) that we have the confusion today.
you are correct about the confusion. i thnk much of it comes from taking bible passages out of context, twisting them and manipulating them to make doctrines of man work.

the passage you posted makes no mention of one must believe the trinity to receive salvation.
 
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the passage you posted makes no mention of one must believe the trinity to receive salvation.
Hi thanks for the reply.

I believe that passage( 2 Corinthians 2:5) is more in how we come or hear God to that conclusion, there are differences.

The scriptures do not inform us to trust in a trinity without any understanding on how a person could come to that conclusion.

Indirectly the verse I offered is the foundation of coming to what I believe is a proper conclusion, if a person is following walking by faith and not by sight to the end of the matter. A clear distinction must be made .It’s not part by faith (the unseen) the other half walking by sight(as that seen) as if we did know Christ, the anointing Holy Spirit of God after the rudiments of this world.

When speaking of the divinity of Jesus the Christ. Believing in the what some call the trinity depending on how they come to their conclusion the verse I offed I believe is the foundation of coming to a proper manner of spirit.

We do not look to the flesh of Christ as part the conclusion of deity. Christ in the flesh could not profit .Although in His Spirit it did.

Those who walked away in John 6 walked in unbelief (no faith).They were walking by sight in a hope it could profit. They rejected Jesus as the wrong prophet according to the parable (drink blood) because they thought he would come and wipe out what they thought was the competition .It’s what walking by sight promotes. Out of sight out of mind, murder the competition was the spirit of antichrist during the first century reformation. It is the same standard as the fifteenth century refomation.(not a revival) . Again it was the foundation for the fall in which the serpent became the god of this world.

Christ in that way said now you see me what happens if I decide to go where I came form?

What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Joh 6:62

This is just as some denominations today whether in part mixing that seen with that not seen or the whole of the flesh as the bases of their doctrines. The Catholics would be the extreme example. they followed the fathers (Christ's nemesis) in respect to the Apostate Jews who also walked by sight.. They have their man made doctrines based on what they call the Real Presence in order to take away the spiritual authority of the scriptures as the correct manner of spirit.(walking by faith) .

Christ in respect to His flesh which could never profit resisted all forms of worship . When approached as God in respect to His flesh Christ would direct the attention away from what is seen and reply :"only God is good" to make that point.It does not mean he was any less God .But God has no form . The form was for a one time demonstration according to the old testament prophesy . Never again, forever more to appear in an outward form.
 
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Hi thanks for the reply.

I believe that passage( 2 Corinthians 2:5) is more in how we come or hear God to that conclusion, there are differences.
i know this is a serious belief for many of you. those that dont follow it are just as serious and for the same biblical reasons as you. i would never tell anyone they are not a Christian, not saved if they believe/ didnt believe in a certain doctrine.

so with that being said, can we not agree that this doctrine, for those that believe it, is a love issue and not a salvation issue.
 

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Jesus Christ is the mediator between God and man. To be the mediator He has to be equal to and acceptable to both parties in the mediation.

Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one.

1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1Ti 2:6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.
 
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i know this is a serious belief for many of you. those that dont follow it are just as serious and for the same biblical reasons as you. i would never tell anyone they are not a Christian, not saved if they believe/ didnt believe in a certain doctrine.

so with that being said, can we not agree that this doctrine, for those that believe it, is a love issue and not a salvation issue.

I would agree we are not to use the doctrine of God to judge one another .If any man says he is a Christian we should approach him form that standpoint .Only God can see into the hearts of all men and apply His word if he does have grace through His mercy.

We are to be salt which speaks of God's judgment but we are not in the place of God. He will sort out the lambs from the sheep on the last day.
 
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its cool CS1 they banned him. and he didnt attack anyone he just asked a question. banned for asking a question. this is how Jesus taught right? shut up and dont ask questions?
This is what I'm trying to figure out in the suggestion forum jaybird, I asked a question " why I got an infraction " immediate ban .... Still no answer, guess I don't deserve a response.

Anyways peace to you

-Brainfreeze
 
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This is what I'm trying to figure out in the suggestion forum jaybird, I asked a question " why I got an infraction " immediate ban .... Still no answer, guess I don't deserve a response.

Anyways peace to you

-Brainfreeze
i dont think its fair.
 
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i dont think its fair.
I think people ( including myself ) who has invested a lot of time sharing here, learning and helping. Don't deserve to get banned for asking a question. I ask why did I get the infraction? ... Only for a response with immediate ban? How does that work?