Walking in the Way

[InSpiritInTruth]

Things have changed my friend from the teaching in the four gospel to the Jews to what the Apostle Paul teaches to mainly the Gentile church body.

Negative, we are still told to walk in the way of righteousness, Paul also taught this...

Romans 4:12 “And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.”
Romans 6:4 “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
Romans 8:4 “That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
Romans 13:13 “Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.”

That's just a few.

 

[FreeNChrist]

So you know better than I what I was trying to show in MY OP? LOL! Perhaps you should read the title of the OP "Walking in the Way" and all the other scriptures I posted so you might get a little better insight into what I am in fact proving as true in MY OP.

Clearly you have an issue with me, and with having to "walk in the way" Jesus commanded us to walk. But thanks for proving my premise as true.

I have an issue with the perversion of scripture. And specifically with the perversion of scripture for the purpose of trying to sell salvation by works.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Negative, we are still told to walk in the way of righteousness, Paul also taught this...

Romans 4:12 “And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.”
Romans 6:4 “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
Romans 8:4 “That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
Romans 13:13 “Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.”

That's just a few.

You're preaching to the choir.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

God is not pleased with that lack of faith in His Son.

I agree->>>>>>>>>>Matthew 17:5 "While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

1 Corinthians 10:5-14 "But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.[SUP]6 [/SUP]Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I have an issue with the perversion of scripture.

By all means, show me what scriptures I have perverted?

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

You're preaching to the choir.

Oh, now can you hear?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I have an issue with the perversion of scripture. And specifically with the perversion of scripture for the purpose of trying to sell salvation by works.

Why don't you try being a little more honest and call it salvation by doing.

 

[FreeNChrist]

By all means, show me what scriptures I have perverted?

Already done.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Why don't you try being a little more honest and call it salvation by doing.

Why don't you be honest and call it what it is, salvation by doing works.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Why don't you try being a little more honest and call it salvation by doing.

Well walking in the way is doing, but for some that is like an evil word. Reminds me of this......

LOL!

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Why don't you be honest and call it what it is, salvation by doing works.

Because it's salvation by faith that works.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Because it's salvation by faith that works.

Salvation is by grace through faith and not of works. Specifically so that those such as yourself cannot boast about your "self" and your self-efforts.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Well walking in the way is doing, but for some that is like an evil word. Reminds me of this......

LOL!

Work/follow/do/walk-phobic.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Why don't you be honest and call it what it is, salvation by doing works.

We call it faith without works (without walking in the way) is dead.

James 2:14-26 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?[SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Salvation is by grace through faith and not of works. Specifically so that those such as yourself cannot boast about your "self" and your self-efforts.

Oh excuse me. How careless of me. I let my guard down and didn't engage the hyper grace offense shield to keep you from stumbling all over a word.

Salvation through faith that works.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Oh excuse me. How careless of me. I let my guard down and didn't engage the hyper grace offense shield to keep you from stumbling all over a word.

Salvation through faith that works.

Salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, and not your works.

 

[FreeNChrist]

We call it faith without works (without walking in the way) is dead.

James 2:14-26 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?[SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Your works cannot save you.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

1 Corinthians 3:3 “For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?”
1 Corinthians 7:17 “But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.”

2 Corinthians 4:2 “But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.”
2 Corinthians 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

 

[FreeNChrist]

1 Corinthians 3:3 “For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?”
1 Corinthians 7:17 “But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.”

2 Corinthians 4:2 “But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.”
2 Corinthians 5:7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.

There ya go. We walk by faith.

 

[Johnlove]

Jesus said that He is the Way the Truth and the Life. I'll stick with believing in what He has done and is doing in me as His life in and through me bears fruit to God.

I can trust the Holy Spirit in me to lead me in this life now that I am in Christ - sealed with the Holy Spirit.

I am governed by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of love, the law of faith, the law of liberty and the law of Christ - Jesus Himself in me.

What a great salvation we have in Him!

John 3:15-18 (NASB)

[SUP]15 [/SUP] so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

[SUP]16 [/SUP] "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

[SUP]17 [/SUP] "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

[SUP]18 [/SUP] "

He who believes in Him is not judged;

he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of Go

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Yes one is justified by faith in Jesus Christ our Lord and God, but one has to be in Jesus Christ to have faith.

You say to all your brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ. I wonder if you understand what it means to be in Jesus.

Faith? Faith in Jesus? Then one has to be in Jesus is that not right?

(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”


Believing of Jesus, and believing in Jesus are two different things.

When John says one is believing in Jesus, he is saying that one needs to be in Jesus to believe.

You need to read what John says about being in Jesus, or Jesus being in him or her.

(1 John 2:5-6) “But when anyone does obey what he has said, God's love comes to perfection in him." We can be sure that we are in God only when the one who claims to be living in him is living the same kind of life as Christ lived.” Jerusalem Bible

(1 John 2:6) The one who says that he abides in him must live the same way he himself lived. International Standard Version

John says this is how we know we are in him. One who sin can’t believe in Jesus, because they are not living as Jesus lived.

(1 John 3:9) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.” Jerusalem Bible
(1 John 3:9) “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” KJV


Here John says God is in one who does not sin. So Children of God are in God, and God is in them.

(1 John 3: 5 - 6) “Now you know that He appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in Him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen Him or known Him.”

Here John says if one sins they don’t even know God. One can’t believe in someone they do not even know.

(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

Jesus told us what one needs to do to have God be in them. Keeping God’s Word includes not sinning.

The reason my argument does not make sense to most people, is because to understand God’s Word and come to know God his or her teacher needs to be God.

(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”