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VW

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that shows how much you pay attention to ANYTHING ANYONE SAYS.
you're on your own big shot.

i want no hope you have to offer. you're in a very sorry state.
I paid attention, You said over and over again that Jesus is not coming to rule for 1000 years. You even said that there is no tribulation, that it has already been done. You even made the 3 times that the 1000 year rule of our Lord Jesus is symbolic.

Big shot?

Repent, well, you know why.
 
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AnandaHya

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I think that my words were to the entire church. They were only to those who were judged by them, and no one else. My prophecy was not to my pastor. But he felt judged by it all the same. Blessed is the one who is not condemned by what he allows, and cursed is the one who feels condemned.

False churches do not bother you? People being lied to about the gospel of Jesus Christ does not bother you? Sinners told that they are saved when they are not does not bother you?

Okay.
of course lies bother me because they are from Satan but I do not let those thought steal my peace for I place my trust in the Lord and believe HIS words and not the visions demons try and use to torment me about the state of the world.

I believe it when God tells me He has it under control. I follow where He leads me and comfort those who sorrow and rejoice with those who are happy and tell them of God's love and salvation and the need for repentance and confession whenever the Spirit moves me

Psalm 85

8 I will hear what God the LORD will speak,
For He will speak peace
To His people and to His saints;
But let them not turn back to folly.
9 Surely His salvation is near to those who fear Him,
That glory may dwell in our land.

10 Mercy and truth have met together;
Righteousness and peace have kissed.
11 Truth shall spring out of the earth,
And righteousness shall look down from heaven.
12 Yes, the LORD will give what is good;
And our land will yield its increase.
13 Righteousness will go before Him,
And shall make His footsteps our pathway.
 
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Well, the use of scripture has sure brought unity in the Spirit, right?

Everyone seems to want to hear that I despise scripture, that I never read scripture, that I hate scripture. I cannot satisfy your desires. I love scripture as a gift from God. I have for many years now allowed the Holy Spirit to shape my heart and my mind, the way I believe and think, through the scriptures. But it was not the scriptures which shaped my beliefs, my thoughts, but the Holy Spirit.

So I ask this of all of you?

Who shaped your beliefs and the way you think, if these things are from scripture alone?

How do you know that what you believe is of God, if it is from scripture alone?

So many seem to want to see a unity of belief, a continuance of doctrines that are correct and true. And they are willing to do almost anything to have this unity, except one. And every effort but this one will end in utter and complete failure. For there is only one way to the unity of the faith, and only one path to becoming pleasing to God.

Many things are good, many things are true, but only one thing makes us the children of God. Only one thing brings us together as one body, indeed He is the only thing which adds us to the body of Christ. Without Him, there is no truth. Without Him, there is no light. Without Him there is no salvation.

So, scorn at your own peril. He has called, He has drawn, He has sought those who will listen to His voice, who will lay down their own ruler-ship of their heart, to allow Him to become Lord of their lives. He has been seeking those who will follow Him into holiness and truth in Jesus Christ from among the body of believers, but most would not hear. They stopped their ears, saying "lies, lies. We do not need Him, we have the truth. Leave us alone, go away."

You are about to get your request.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is at hand.

There ya go again saying we seperate scripture from the power of the HolySpirit, when in fact its only you doing it then whining and blaming again, should i collect for you proof that daily you are told they are togather?
 

VW

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I am late to work and typed it wrong above. It should have been, "you think my words were to the entire church?"

How shall they know unless one is sent. Oh, they can just read the bible.

Yeah, right. God sends men and women to convict with words given by the Holy Spirit and He opens hearts and eyes and ears to bring the light of the truth into a life, and brings light out of darkness. Salvation.
 
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The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is the same Spirit who came down from heaven when Jesus was baptized, Who led Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil, who sustained Him for 40 days and nights. The Holy Spirit is the Person by Whom Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, and healed the man born blind, and casts out the demons and healed ever sickness and disease.

This very same Holy Spirit is the One who came into the world to fulfill the prophecy of Joel on the day of Pentecost. This very same Holy Spirit is the One who brought you into the family of God as a child of God. If indeed you have been born of Him. And this same Holy Spirit leads you into righteousness, if you hear Him and follow His leading. And by this very same Holy Spirit, God gives us life, keeps us alive, even though our bodies are dying because of sin. And those who are practicing righteousness are by this very same Holy Spirit, putting to death the deeds of the flesh.

But you have the bible, and do not need to follow the Spirit.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is near.

There you go again VW telling lies again. How many times a day do I catch you lieing. Saying we say we dont need the Spirit. Should i make a count? Do you even know you lie several times a die...or is it called baring false witness?
 
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I am late to work and typed it wrong above. It should have been, "you think my words were to the entire church?"

How shall they know unless one is sent. Oh, they can just read the bible.

Yeah, right. God sends men and women to convict with words given by the Holy Spirit and He opens hearts and eyes and ears to bring the light of the truth into a life, and brings light out of darkness. Salvation.
no i think you typed it right the first time because I think your words are for yourself since God sends people to SPECIFIC churches not a God of Chaos but a God of order. have you study prophecy?

God sends His prophets to certain people.

we have Moses for the Pharoah and the enslaved Israelites.

we have Jonah and Niveneh, etc

you want to know God's message to the WHOLE World?

John 3:17
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.


again VW WHY DID JESUS COME TO THE WORLD?

IF Jesus came to save, why then do YOU condemn?


Matthew 18:16-18
New King James Version (NKJV)
16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’[a] 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
18 “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
 

zone

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Even if Jesus stood before you and told you the truth, you would call Him a liar.

Repent, for the day of the Lord is near and coming swiftly.
oh yes....because, like every fanatic who falls into delusion, you are becoming God.
you will soon be claiming you are Jesus (you have pretty much done that with your verbatim utterances)
you have already usurped the Holy Spirit's Commission, and apparently you are authorized to sit on the White Throne.
 

zone

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I paid attention, You said over and over again that Jesus is not coming to rule for 1000 years. You even said that there is no tribulation, that it has already been done. You even made the 3 times that the 1000 year rule of our Lord Jesus is symbolic.

Big shot?

Repent, well, you know why.
PROVE IT.

i know exactly how it's going down.
while you've been off playing prophet, i've been studying and watching.
can't help it you are confused VW. you brought it on yourself.

you can't be bothered to study. you do not know what Amillennialism is.

that's not my problem.

you were floundering around in pretrib/mid-trib/no clue....you still don't know. and yet it is CLEARLY WRITTEN.

and you have a hotline to the Father: why isn't He telling His prophet what's going to happen VW?
 

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There you go again VW telling lies again. How many times a day do I catch you lieing. Saying we say we dont need the Spirit. Should i make a count? Do you even know you lie several times a die...or is it called baring false witness?
So you follow the Holy Spirit?

He told you to call me a liar? Really?

You say that the bible and the Holy Spirit are the same. You may think that you need the Holy Spirit, but you believe that in reading the bible you are hearing from Him.

That is an error.
 
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Abiding

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I spose this would be a bad time to ask you out zone, so
ill just go make coffee :)
 

VW

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Read the entire passage please, where Jesus is talking to Nicodemus? You will see that part of the judgment is that many will not come to the light.

You are again using scripture rather than letting the Holy Spirit use you.
 
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So you follow the Holy Spirit?

He told you to call me a liar? Really?
yep here it is nail polish and all

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Originally Posted by VW

But you have the bible, and do not need to follow the Spirit.


Let repeat my words:

there you go inserting lies into your message again. the rest I agree with then you have to stick a hook in and call it truth.

NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THEY DID NOT NEED THE HOLY SPIRIT!

YOU do not like to LISTEN.

do you know what false prophets and apostles are doing to the world? do you know of the 7000 killed because of the Camping prophecy? (look at schoolofyoungprophet's thread)

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/27589-sad.html


go on continue your self righteous tirade.
 

zone

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I am late to work and typed it wrong above. It should have been, "you think my words were to the entire church?"

How shall they know unless one is sent. Oh, they can just read the bible.

Yeah, right. God sends men and women to convict with words given by the Holy Spirit and He opens hearts and eyes and ears to bring the light of the truth into a life, and brings light out of darkness. Salvation.
Oh, they can just read the bible. TRUE

God sends men and women to convict with words FALSE.

that's where the True Holy Spirit comes in...on both counts.

but, you do not believe.
 
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Abiding

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So you follow the Holy Spirit?

He told you to call me a liar? Really?

You say that the bible and the Holy Spirit are the same. You may think that you need the Holy Spirit, but you believe that in reading the bible you are hearing from Him.

That is an error.
No i didnt say they were the same. and no He didnt tell me to call you a liar.
But read my posts, you do then lie. If you dont want me to say you lie...well just stop it
can i possiblt have conversations with you and say the same thing daily, and have you say
the opposite and not bring it up? and today i had to just stay on it.
 

VW

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PROVE IT.

i know exactly how it's going down.
while you've been off playing prophet, i've been studying and watching.
can't help it you are confused VW. you brought it on yourself.

you can't be bothered to study. you do not know what Amillennialism is.

that's not my problem.

you were floundering around in pretrib/mid-trib/no clue....you still don't know. and yet it is CLEARLY WRITTEN.

and you have a hotline to the Father: why isn't He telling His prophet what's going to happen VW?
He did tell me. It will come to pass. The sky will split open like a sheet and Jesus will come down from heaven, with His saints with Him, and He will trod out the wine press of God's wrath, and many there will be that day who perish. The dayof the Lord is terrible and awful to behold.

And then He will rule from the teme in Jerusalem for a thousand years, with a rod of iron over all the nations. Afterthe thousand years are done, then comes the second resurrection, after the last revolt of mankind lead by the devil, and all those who follow him are destroyed by fire. Then come the judgment, and a new heavens and a new earth will be created by God.

This is not exhaustive, just a bare outline.
Do you agree with this?
 

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is this fun for you VW?

you're in serious trouble. if i were you i would contact Red33
 

zone

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He did tell me. It will come to pass. The sky will split open like a sheet and Jesus will come down from heaven, with His saints with Him, and He will trod out the wine press of God's wrath, and many there will be that day who perish. The dayof the Lord is terrible and awful to behold.

And then He will rule from the teme in Jerusalem for a thousand years, with a rod of iron over all the nations. Afterthe thousand years are done, then comes the second resurrection, after the last revolt of mankind lead by the devil, and all those who follow him are destroyed by fire. Then come the judgment, and a new heavens and a new earth will be created by God.

This is not exhaustive, just a bare outline.
Do you agree with this?
nice try.
you're on your own.
 
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will there be animal sacrifices in that thousand years VW?
 
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AnandaHya

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forgot the whole FAKE Christ part:

2 Thessalonians 2

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness


of course this being will need his prophets around him...

Revelation 13:13-15
New King James Version (NKJV)
13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those[a] who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
 
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VW

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Oh, they can just read the bible. TRUE

God sends men and women to convict with words FALSE.

that's where the True Holy Spirit comes in...on both counts.

but, you do not believe.
I hope that you do not read the bible in the same way you read my words, taking things out of context because they do not agree with what you believe. How shallthey hear unless one is sent? Who do you think does the sending? Who do you think does the empowering?
You don't believe anyone empowers those who testify, because that means someone would have to hear the voice of Jesus through the Holy Spirit in orderto speak the gospel. It is something called preaching so those who hear have faith based in and on the power of God.

But we have to be careful, lest some spirit deceive us into preaching another gospel.

Yeah right. Every spirit thatconcesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not of God.