Warning! Catholic church is a FALSE religion

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Another group hard to witness to are those OSAS believers living in sin. They really think they are on their way to heaven even though they do not serve God. It is much easier to witness to someone who knows they are lost than trying to convince a ''saved sinner'' in their need for repentance.
Onwingsaseagles...I have rarely seen any truth in any of your statments. I highly recommend people to not listen to anything you say because your beliefs are contrary to the Bible. You have stated that you don't believe in the Trinity and you don't believe Once saved Always saved. Paul warns true believers in the Galatians to stay away from false teachers, which I seriously think you are. I'm not going to beat around the bush about it. A false teacher should be exposed.
 
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Because these existed as Scripture before the New Testament. Therefore, it's not likely that the New Testament would be pertaining to them. The New Testament said that we must believe Jesus died for us in order to be saved.. but Moses didn't have to believe that in order to be saved. It's even argued that Jesus would have known these books. I'm not really sure there's any evidence to back that part up, however.

hmmm i see....
 
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christiancanadian

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I was catholic and I'm in the process of becoming a Baptist. When I started reading the Bible and attending the Baptist church I was shocked at how the catholic church didn't go by the bible. We can confess our sins directly to Jesus, instead of a human priest a with the catholic church. Mary was the human mother of Jesus, she carried him, and gave birth to him on earth. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that she is anything other than the woman chosen for the earthly birth of Jesus. Catholics think you can pray to Mary??? what about the Pope??? I felt really let down by the catholic church. I was catholic for 30 years and I'm pretty sure I wasn't "saved" during that time. I've never been to a catholic mass where they clearly say..ok...this is what you need to do to be saved. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Sincerely ask him into your heart. Ask for forgiveness of your sins. Repent of your sins. Read the actual Bible and walk with Jesus and Trust in him. That's it. It would take less than five minutes, but I don't recall in 30 years ever being told clearly how the Bible tells us to be born again. I didn't even know what to repent meant until last year!!! And what's with the Baptism?? To be baptized as an infant is not Biblical. We're supposed to be Baptised as believers. I just feel that during my life as a catholic, they danced around the issue of the biblical way of being saved. The real reason I like the Baptist church is because the church I go to preaches directly out of the Bible. Which is how it is supposed to be. It's God's word.
 
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Lil_warrior

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wow amen..
 
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Charles

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Even the Lord tells them, the people, to come out of the Catholic Church: Rev. 18:4.
 
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Baptistrw

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Because these existed as Scripture before the New Testament. Therefore, it's not likely that the New Testament would be pertaining to them. The New Testament said that we must believe Jesus died for us in order to be saved.. but Moses didn't have to believe that in order to be saved. It's even argued that Jesus would have known these books. I'm not really sure there's any evidence to back that part up, however.
If the Apocrypha was scriptural someone would have quoted from it in the NT, since it was written before the NT period.But no one does. And it clearly denies the claim of being inspired. And it doesn't have prophetic or apostolic authority. It was included in the Catholic Bible after the reformation to try to sway people to believe in the Catholic churches heretical doctrines.
 
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I was catholic and I'm in the process of becoming a Baptist. When I started reading the Bible and attending the Baptist church I was shocked at how the catholic church didn't go by the bible. We can confess our sins directly to Jesus, instead of a human priest a with the catholic church. Mary was the human mother of Jesus, she carried him, and gave birth to him on earth. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that she is anything other than the woman chosen for the earthly birth of Jesus. Catholics think you can pray to Mary??? what about the Pope??? I felt really let down by the catholic church. I was catholic for 30 years and I'm pretty sure I wasn't "saved" during that time. I've never been to a catholic mass where they clearly say..ok...this is what you need to do to be saved. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Sincerely ask him into your heart. Ask for forgiveness of your sins. Repent of your sins. Read the actual Bible and walk with Jesus and Trust in him. That's it. It would take less than five minutes, but I don't recall in 30 years ever being told clearly how the Bible tells us to be born again. I didn't even know what to repent meant until last year!!! And what's with the Baptism?? To be baptized as an infant is not Biblical. We're supposed to be Baptised as believers. I just feel that during my life as a catholic, they danced around the issue of the biblical way of being saved. The real reason I like the Baptist church is because the church I go to preaches directly out of the Bible. Which is how it is supposed to be. It's God's word.
Amen, that's a great testimony. My best friends flute teacher is Catholic and we're desperately praying she comes to a true knowledge of Christ as her Savior, and stops depending on her own works.
 
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There are many examples of Catholic priests who finally turned to the Lord for salvation....They had to separate from the Catholic church because they saw how much of a prison house religion it was....Here is a great testimony by one of them:

http://www.biblebelievers.com/XRCCPRIEST.html
 
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christiancanadian

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Amen, that's a great testimony. My best friends flute teacher is Catholic and we're desperately praying she comes to a true knowledge of Christ as her Savior, and stops depending on her own works.

thank you. I'm very joyful because I finally feel like I'm on the right track with the Lord. I have a heavy desire to get Baptized, and I'm going through the process with my church Pastor (who is very good). In fact, I'm going to ask him to speed it up more because I want to get Baptized faster!! lol!

Praise Jesus for showing me the way!!!!!! amen!
 
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jnrz7292

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i have a lot of Catholic friends. i know how they feel about their religion so when I talk to them (religion is very fragile talk) I choose my words. i have told them about salvation and they believed and still believe. however, there are just some traditions that they don't want to abandon. like praying the rosary... you know. stuff like that. it's hard to confront people about things where there are discrepancies between you and them. the right time will come that i will gain enough courage to speak up about their religion. i also have 4 JW friends. and 1 mormon friend. there's really a lot of work to do. with God's help, the road will get shorter. :)
 
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There are many examples of Catholic priests who finally turned to the Lord for salvation....They had to separate from the Catholic church because they saw how much of a prison house religion it was....Here is a great testimony by one of them:

http://www.biblebelievers.com/XRCCPRIEST.html
Yeah, like Alberto Rivera, he was deep deep in there, but he didn't believe everything he was told and got out of there quick. well, that was after they tried killing him...
 
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Rev. 17:8, "...when they behold the beast that was and is not, and yet is." "The beast that was" was the Roman Empire. "and is not", You can't see the Roman Empire because it is the Roman Catholic Church. "and yet is", Because it is the Roman Catholic Church.
 
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Lil_warrior

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wow, that's so true...
 
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roaringkitten

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If there are any Catholics that are reading this, I wrote this because I love you. And I want you to be warned about Catholicism....


BTW, Whatever denomination you hold to, it is faith in Christ ALONE that comes through conviction of your sins so Jesus can save you....Your works of righteousness will NOT save you.....They are FRUITS of faith in Christ....Do not confuse the FRUITS of salvation, with the OBJECT of saving faith(Jesus)...See Galatians 2:16, Galatians 3:2-3, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 11:6, Isaiah 64:60

Anyone telling Jesus that they did this or that and a number of other things APART from the precious blood of Jesus Christ is condemned! There is NO ROOM for boasting on the day you meet Jesus!!!

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Romans 4:5

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. . . MANY will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7: 21-23
 
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dodolah

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not that i don't agree on some of the points in here..
But, i found it funny that this conversation is so heavily 1 sided.
If we gonna talk about how wrong and evil catholicism is, I think we should have catholics listening to this and perhaps given a chance to defend their perspective.
 
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Lu 6:37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

we have to be very careful about what we do, we will not stand before God one day and be judged by the catholic way, but we will be judged by what we have done.

1jo 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.1jo 4:2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:1jo 4:3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.1jo 4:4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.1jo 4:5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.1jo 4:6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.1jo 4:7Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.1jo 4:8He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.1jo 4:9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.1jo 4:10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.1jo 4:11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.1jo 4:12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.1jo 4:13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.1jo 4:14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.1jo 4:15Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.1jo 4:16And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.1jo 4:17Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.1jo 4:18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.1jo 4:19We love him, because he first loved us.1jo 4:20If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?1jo 4:21And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.


Here God says to try the Spirits If the Catholic teaches that the Christ has came in the flesh then they are of God. Wait I didn't say that but however merely read it from the Word of God, go take it up with Him , I asked a Jehova witness the other day if they believed the the Christ had come in the Flesh and if they Believed that Jesus was that Christ and that He had died for them amazingly they said Yes they confessed that.
 
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Lil_warrior

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this speaks clearly about the catholic church, very clearly.

Revelation 17
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
THE great babylon, babylon is gone but yet it's remnants exist. "I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints," there is no one else who has killed so many christians as the catholic church, look at the history. the seven mountains are where she sits. the only city that sits on seven mountains is ROME. no lie. the Bible proves it geographically. no one can argue with the geography and say there are not SEVEN mountains!
 
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this speaks clearly about the catholic church, very clearly.


More like the Roman Empire.
They are the ones who had the blood of the saints on their hands, at the time when Revelations was written.


is no one else who has killed so many christians as the catholic church, look at the history.
It can't really be established whether they killed any more than protestants, no accurate records were kept. Protestants killed a lot of people too, are they also the Babylon? Catholics were hung, drawn and quartered since the 1500's in protestant countries.

 
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Lil_warrior

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More like the Roman Empire.
They are the ones who had the blood of the saints on their hands, at the time when Revelations was written.




It can't really be established whether they killed any more than protestants, no accurate records were kept. Protestants killed a lot of people too, are they also the Babylon? Catholics were hung, drawn and quartered since the 1500's in protestant countries.
it's clear
 
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