Was Paul a deciever or implant by the Jews?

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Jan 24, 2011
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people of the muslim religion are free to post here, clearly.
but there are lines that should not be crossed on a Christian forum.

if i went to an Islamist forum and posted the things you do here i would be banned or worse.
please have some respect.

you will find no converts to Islam here.
Hi Zone

If you checked the site I drew info form you would find it to be a christian site.

The question is Paul a deceiver was posed by a Christian not me. I was only answering it.

So you guys can continue to play the man if you like and not address what was stated by christians. :)
 

zone

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Hi Zone

If you checked the site I drew info form you would find it to be a christian site.

The question is Paul a deceiver was posed by a Christian not me. I was only answering it.

So you guys can continue to play the man if you like and not address what was stated by christians. :)
hi.
i'm aware people who claim to be christians (they aren't) deny paul's authority.

i was addressing specifically your personal two cents worth, and is what i asked you to refrain from (if you would be so kind):

Yes the verse

JESUS prophesied "...IF ANOTHER COMES, IN HIS OWN NAME, YOU (Scribes and Pharisees) WILL RECEIVE HIM"
(John 5:43)

Applies to Paul.

JESUS said to them " I SAW SATAN FALL, LIKE LIGHTNING, FROM HEAVEN"
(Luke 10:18)

So the great DRAGON was cast out FROM HEAVEN, that SERPENT of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; HE WAS CAST TO THE EARTH AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM "
(Revelation 12:9. Matthew 13:39)

As SAUL journeyed he came near Damascus and suddenly A LIGHT FROM HEAVEN (LIGHTNING) shone around him and he fell to the ground
(Acts 9:3,4)

He systematically undid all the work that Jesus pbuh

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19)

Paul declares it's ok to eat meat sacrificed to idols

For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than THESE NECESSARY THINGS:
That you ABSTAIN FROM MEATS offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled and from fornication...
(Acts 15:28:29)

But I (Jesus) have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a STUMBLING BLOCK before the children of Israel, TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS
(Revelation 2:14)

Jesus was circumcised, Paul rejected circumcision:

On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived. (Luke 2:21)

And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, [and said], Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. (Acts 15:1)


Jesus taught Salvation comes through Faith and Works, Paul distorted it:

Jesus taught salvation is attained by keeping the commandments, physical prayer, fasting, and observing the Law of Moses. Paul neglected these commands and distorted the Path to Salvation preached by Jesus.

Paul said that “salvation comes through faith and grace” which is exactly what the missionaries are saying today. Let us read the words of Jesus.


Many historians have found Paul has taken christianity down a different path.

“Paul abolished the Law, which was followed and preached by Jesus (pbuh), and corrupted the whole religion, giving it a new form. The main ambition behind all this was, in his own words, “to win a larger number” of followers; the followers of a new religion “the Pauline Christianity”. (Follow Jesus or Follow Paul p. 69)

Abraham pbuh had to leave his comfort zone to follow the right path. Are you ready to leave your comfort zone and leave Paul behind and follow the teachings of Jesus ?

Information mainly sourced from The Apostle Paul Was A Deceiver
 

duewell

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Jesus was the son of God. paul is a disciple of Jesus. his writtings are some of the clearest examples of the physical and mental proccess of being saved by Jesus.

Duewell
we are all lights
 
Jan 24, 2011
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hi.
i'm aware people who claim to be christians (they aren't) deny paul's authority.

i was addressing specifically your personal two cents worth, and is what i asked you to refrain from (if you would be so kind):
Hi Zone

Telling me how I was wrong would clearly put me in my place. :)
 

zone

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Jun 13, 2010
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Hi Zone

Telling me how I was wrong would clearly put me in my place. :)
i said, people who adhere to the muslim faith are welcomed at this site, clearly.

some Christians (myself included) begin to take offense when assaults on our faith and Bible are overt.
no true christian doubts paul's authority, and i asked if you could refrain from doing so since you are on a Christian forum.

i wouldn't go to a muslim site and begin trashing your beliefs, though i am free to say i disagree.
thank you.
zone.
 

WomanLovesTX

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i still hold that salvation is through GRACE alone and that Faith is a fruit that is displayed when the seed God plants in our hearts take root.

Grace means that God saves us. Faith shows the world our acceptance of Grace. Salvation happened when God decided to save us, and we decided to listen.
I agree. That is very well said and I hope in agreement with most.