We are as foolish as pharisees to believe NOONE else gets in

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You can quote all the scripture you want. To believe our God of love. Our Father, would close the doors on those who havent had our opportunity of information is ridiculous. Hyprocrisy. Arrogant and foolish. To believe that is to say a lowly, sinful man as myself, has more love for Gods creation than God himself. Thats simply nonsense.
Its time we know God through our actions of faith rather than whats written.
For since creation of the world God's invisible qualities -- his eternal power and divine nature -- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
 
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Thats all sweet sounding, but the fact remains, you are are a sinner, we are all sinners while we in this flesh. Why do you think Paul couldnt wait to die and be with the Lord?
You are right as long as we are in this flesh we will sin. I may be a sinner, but the difference is I have an advocate, Jesus Christ the righteous who stands by the throne of God making intercession for me to the Father. That is the difference between a sinner who is not born again and a sinner who is born again.
 
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honestly all i can say is god know who is predestinated to be saved
 
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You can quote all the scripture you want. To believe our God of love. Our Father, would close the doors on those who havent had our opportunity of information is ridiculous. Hyprocrisy. Arrogant and foolish. To believe that is to say a lowly, sinful man as myself, has more love for Gods creation than God himself. Thats simply nonsense.
Its time we know God through our actions of faith rather than whats written.
You can quote all the scripture you want.
Thank you I will.

The Impartiality of God
Romans 2
2 Therefore you have no excuse, [a]everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God [b]rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, [c]when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you think lightly ofthe riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?5 But [d]because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who will render to each person according to his deeds: 7 to those who byperseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. 9 There will be tribulation and distress [e]for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.
12 For all who have sinned [f]without the Law will also perish [g]without the Law, and all who have sinned [h]under the Law will be judged [i]by the Law; 13 for it is not the hearers [j]of the Law who are [k]just before God, but the doers [l]of the Law will be justified. 14For when Gentiles who do not have [m]the Law do [n]instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having [o]the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when,according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.




 
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Thank you I will.

The Impartiality of God
Romans 2
2 Therefore you have no excuse, [a]everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 And we know that the judgment of God [b]rightly falls upon those who practice such things. 3 But do you suppose this, O man, [c]when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you think lightly ofthe riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?5 But [d]because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, 6 who will render to each person according to his deeds: 7 to those who byperseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. 9 There will be tribulation and distress [e]for every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace to everyone who does good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 11 For there is no partiality with God.
12 For all who have sinned [f]without the Law will also perish [g]without the Law, and all who have sinned [h]under the Law will be judged [i]by the Law; 13 for it is not the hearers [j]of the Law who are [k]just before God, but the doers [l]of the Law will be justified. 14For when Gentiles who do not have [m]the Law do [n]instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having [o][/Bithe Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when,according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.





Whats your point? Its you who passes judgement, not i. You play God, saying this person or that persons goung to hell. Not i. Look in the mirror.
 
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My point EXACTLY. Before the Bible, God reached peoples minds and hearts.And He still does to this day.
For since creation of the world God's invisible qualities -- his eternal power and divine nature -- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
 
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Thats fine and dandy. I believe the same. My original intention of this thread was to call out those who try to say who is and who are not going to heaven. We have become demi gods because of the secrets we have been graciously given through Gods word.
You are right as long as we are in this flesh we will sin. I may be a sinner, but the difference is I have an advocate, Jesus Christ the righteous who stands by the throne of God making intercession for me to the Father. That is the difference between a sinner who is not born again and a sinner who is born again.
 
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Someone's grumpy.

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Thats fine and dandy. I believe the same. My original intention of this thread was to call out those who try to say who is and who are not going to heaven. We have become demi gods because of the secrets we have been graciously given through Gods word.
But we do know in a general sense who is and who isn't going to heaven. . .don't we? John 3:16 and John 3:18. . .EASY.

And I didn't say it. . . .God did!
 
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No, we dont. Youre dead wrong. We can see the direction a soul is going, but clueless of final destination. Ex. Thief on the cross. NOT easy and to think it is is arrogance.
But we do know in a general sense who is and who isn't going to heaven. . .don't we? John 3:16 and John 3:18. . .EASY.

And I didn't say it. . . .God did!
 
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I cant reason with someone who wants to play God.
Go ahead and believe whatever you want.
Unfortunately my point wont be proven until you reach heaven. Then youll be as the orthodox jews are to the gentiles, saying to God "hey! How did they get in here!"
 
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I believe Christ died for my sins. Take that and categorize it any way you want.
His conversation with Christ showed us he believed in him. Also Christ said he would be with him in paradise. What religion are you ? Universalist or some nonsense ?
 
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If you dont hear it on earth then you are given a choice after you die according to your thinking.If you dont believe that, then you must believe eveyone who the Word did not reach, those people are screwed.Your arrogance, you probably believe the latter.
Thats for those that heard. I did take it up with Him. He told me you are an idiot.
 
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Whats your point? Its you who passes judgement, not i. You play God, saying this person or that persons goung to hell. Not i. Look in the mirror.
I did not write the bible. I don't get any say in who goes where. You are making quite a leap by saying that I judge where people go.
 
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No you didnt write it, but if youre gonna quote from it, know what youre talking about
I did not write the bible. I don't get any say in who goes where. You are making quite a leap by saying that I judge where people go.
 
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No you didnt write it, but if youre gonna quote from it, know what youre talking about
I gave you direct quote from the bible pertaining to the object of your original post. I didn't paraphrase it or change it in anyway. If you have an issue with what I said, then you have a direct issue with God himself, I just cut and paste His Word to you. You could at least make some sense when you tell me to know what I am talking bout.

This is like you saying we need air to breath but don't you bring science into it. I went ahead and said ''Yes we need air to breath because we will die without oxygen.'' Then you replied '' you didn't come up with that on your own so it doesn't apply you don't know anything '' . To which I say back ''Ok, sure go ahead and stop breathing and see where it gets you''

At 80 some posts it is obvious to all you just posted this to try to be right about something.

Me thinks thou dost protest much......