We are in the end times

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The bible has authority over all, is that not true? Thus I like to interpret the bible with the bible. Consider what knowledge is:

Proverbs 2:10
When wisdom enters your heart,
And knowledge is pleasant to your soul,


Hosea 4:6-7
[SUP]6 [/SUP]My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,

I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.


[SUP]7 [/SUP]“The more they increased,
The more they sinned against Me;
I will chang[SUP]][/SUP] their glory into shame.




Proverbs 8:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Receive my instruction, and not silver,
And knowledge rather than choice gold;



Proverbs 12:1
Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge,
But he who hates correction is stupid.


1 Corinthians 12:8
[SUP]8 [/SUP]for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,

Hosea 6:6
For I desire mercy and not sacrifice,
And the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.


Isaiah 11:9
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea.


Proverbs 9:10
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.


Colossians 2:2-3
[SUP]2 [/SUP]that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, and attaining to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, both of the Father and[SUP][a][/SUP] of Christ, [SUP]3 [/SUP]in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.


Luke 1:76-77
[SUP]76 [/SUP]“And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Highest;
For you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways,
[SUP]77 [/SUP]To give knowledge of salvation to His people
By the remission of their sins,




Daniel 12:4“But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”


I could have posted more scripture. As you see, whither right or wrong, I have a biblical interpretation of knowledge.
so you are saying very simply that the word knowledge was used before that to signify spiritual knowledge therefore that is what He meant by spiritual knowledge will increase?
 

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so you are saying very simply that the word knowledge was used before that to signify spiritual knowledge therefore that is what He meant by spiritual knowledge will increase?
It's a possible interpretation, and the one I currently hold. I'm not saying it has to mean that.

To say knowledge here is man's knowledge, computers, medicine, transportation is pure speculation and has to be injected by man for the bible doesn't speak of it.
 
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There is a biblical rapture..it comes from the Latin phrase "Raptuo" and Greek "harpazo"...however, the context people use it for today is not biblical. There is no magical disappearance. It's the 2nd Coming, Judgment, Christ's reign...the End.
 

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*God "in the last days knowledge will increase" (simple and direct) *you "God meant an increase in the knowledge of His plan"

prove that with scripture bro..
Peter also says he is in the last days and pentecost was the fulfillment of Joel prophecy in Acts 2. Also the author of Hebrews said in these last days God has spoken to us by His son, Hebrews 1:2.

I thought I proved with the scriptures I gave you, Colossians 2:2-3 for instance.
 
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There is a biblical rapture..it comes from the Latin phrase "Raptuo" and Greek "harpazo"...however, the context people use it for today is not biblical. There is no magical disappearance. It's the 2nd Coming, Judgment, Christ's reign...the End.
Better watch out, they'll accuse you of being authoritative, and woman giving biblical teaching is a no no. lol
 
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It's a possible interpretation, and the one I currently hold. I'm not saying it has to mean that.

To say knowledge here is man's knowledge, computers, medicine, transportation is pure speculation and has to be injected by man for the bible doesn't speak of it.
knowledge in it's most general form is all knowledge. There has been a huge knowledge increase in every sense of the word in the last hundred years.
 
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The only thing I have heard which may not be true is that I heard that it even was found in the code when Jesus returns. Now if this is true, I would be very leary of this bible code because the bible clearly says no man will no the time and day.
Indeed, “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” So says Matthew 24:36.

On a different note it’s interesting that in this passage Jesus does not identify himself as God. The “Son” seems to be a separate entity in his mind.
 
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Indeed, “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” So says Matthew 24:36.

On a different note it’s interesting that in this passage Jesus does not identify himself as God. The “Son” seems to be a separate entity in his mind.

Yes because that is the characteristics that each part are given.
The Almighty God is all knowing, as Jesus in flesh He was made in the flesh to be like us ( no human is all knowing ), as the Holy Spirit He is our guide and helper ( keeps us walking properly if we listen ).

The way I put it in human terms for people to understand it easier is water, ice, steam.
All made up of the same elements, but have their own distinct characteristics.
 

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Indeed, “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” So says Matthew 24:36.

On a different note it’s interesting that in this passage Jesus does not identify himself as God. The “Son” seems to be a separate entity in his mind.

There is a set date for His return......Are we ready for it?......God the Father knows that date. I pray I will see you in Heaven Cycel.
 
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Indeed, “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” So says Matthew 24:36.

On a different note it’s interesting that in this passage Jesus does not identify himself as God. The “Son” seems to be a separate entity in his mind.
Jesus was compassionate that if the Father let Him know the day and time He would have told it and in fact He came very close to telling saying that it would be the same as the time of Noah. Which is the time we are living. Evil consumes the thoughts of men just as Noah time. Rewarding evil for good and good for evil. Prime example, Adrian Peterson is suspended from the NFL for spanking his child.

Proverbs 22

15 Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
 
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Israel is the fig tree

Matthew 24

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Mark 13


28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

Luke 21

30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

Israel became a nation in 1948 and recognized by the world in 1968. So I thinking that the 1968 date is in effect. My Father was born in 1935 so hi generation is not in effect. I was born in 1969 so my generation is in effect and this genereation shall not pass away, will I live to be 100?


 

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knowledge in it's most general form is all knowledge. There has been a huge knowledge increase in every sense of the word in the last hundred years.
Prove it from the bible?
 
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As the END gets closer, we will see and understand that we are in the END time. there is not enough prophecy fulfilled yet for us to be in the END time. Israel as a nation, "the fig tree" has shown us that we are in the "last generation" Mt 24:32-ff; But it takes over 100yrs for a gen. to past away, so, we could have 60 yrs? left, before the rapture. I am looking for the peace treaty that will give Israel "peace and safety" and the nations are not set up for the END time yet, then I will know we are in the end time. The "king of the south" (Egypt ??)He will make the treaty, or reaffirm a cov. treaty. for 7 yrs., once the treaty is made, the rapture will be 3.5 yrs. later. I think the 10 nation agreement, federation, or what ever, will be the Arab nations. Daniel gets very specific on the number of days at the END. and Rev.17:12 says the 10 kings will reign with the beast for i hr. But Jesus will destroy them and take over the world. v.14. And Dan. 11:12-13 says Daniel will rise from the grave after the 1,335 days. at Jesus 2nd RETURN. to earth. Love to all. Hoffco
 
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Prove it from the bible?
Proving the word knowledge in it's most general form is all knowledge was not a biblical principal. It's a dictionary principal

knowl·edge (n
l
j)n.1. The state or fact of knowing.
2. Familiarity, awareness, or understanding gained through experience or study.
3. The sum or range of what has been perceived, discovered, or learned.
4. Learning; erudition: teachers of great knowledge.
5. Specific information about something.
6. Carnal knowledge.
 
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As the END gets closer, we will see and understand that we are in the END time. there is not enough prophecy fulfilled yet for us to be in the END time. Israel as a nation, "the fig tree" has shown us that we are in the "last generation" Mt 24:32-ff; But it takes over 100yrs for a gen. to past away, so, we could have 60 yrs? left, before the rapture. I am looking for the peace treaty that will give Israel "peace and safety" and the nations are not set up for the END time yet, then I will know we are in the end time. The "king of the south" (Egypt ??)He will make the treaty, or reaffirm a cov. treaty. for 7 yrs., once the treaty is made, the rapture will be 3.5 yrs. later. I think the 10 nation agreement, federation, or what ever, will be the Arab nations. Daniel gets very specific on the number of days at the END. and Rev.17:12 says the 10 kings will reign with the beast for i hr. But Jesus will destroy them and take over the world. v.14. And Dan. 11:12-13 says Daniel will rise from the grave after the 1,335 days. at Jesus 2nd RETURN. to earth. Love to all. Hoffco
Israel became a nation in 1948, so we are 66 years past that, leaving 34 years max according to scripture.
 
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To Deadtosin, I think you are on the right track. So, before 2050 the rapture should happen. or sooner. I think I need to correct the time of Daniel's resurrection from the dead, because Daniel will go up , with us, at the rapture. Then 1335 days, after the rapture, Jesus returns to rule. Love to all, Hoffco
 
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Sometimes i catch myself locked on something of god so much that when I pull myself away from the magnifying glass search in for the answers in frustration.... it dawns on me.... gods yolk is easy..and he gives very simple answers... it is then I realize that He is very capable of revealing to me what it is he wants me to know... I find when I release it back to him and start talking to him about it and ask him to bring clarification as he wants me to understand it...something very interesting transpires having confidence in him over my ability to search it out... it is usually my inability and when I finally relax and trust him more by handing it all back over to him that the answers start coming into focus...
 
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I think god likes to wow us...he gets great glory being allowed to reveal things we habe a desire to understand... I also think about the verse that say lean not onto your understanding..... god will reveal it the way he wants us to understand it and in a very personal way... thats just my two scents...

1 cor 1:25
 
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Ecclesiastes 3:11

[*God Set*Eternity*in the Heart of Man*] He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set*eternity*in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end.
 
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This reminds me of the essence of the bible... which keeps coming to mind lately....

Ive posted this but I thinks its worth mentioning again...

"The essence of the bible is not to get man into heaven... it is getting god into man.... god came as a man to the earth...... jesus "a vessel like us" is by whom God worked through... jesus heart was the doorway by wich god worked through to reveal himself to us.... jesus is gods heart walking around outside himself... I can see the picture in my minds eye... im not so sure its coming out the right way lol