What about the Roman Catholic religion and her daughters?

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There is and never has been such a thing as a A protestant crown.
Umm...King Henry VIII claimed a Protestant Crown, as did his son and his daughter, and his cousin, James. Also, the Lutheran Princes were nobility, but not truly absolute monarchs, due to the Holy Roman Emperor. So not a wholly true statement there.
 
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posts like this one are the real reason there are so many anti roman catholic posts on this forum...and why there is so much anti roman catholic opinion in protestantism in general...

yes christ created a unified church...people later worked to created a hierarchical and clerically driven institution that had little resemblance to the church christ founded...and now they want to claim that their detractors are opposed to 'the church christ started'

the -real- issue is that you cannot assert that a novel organization is synonymous with the original organization to which it bears little resemblance...and then claim that anyone who rejects your novel organization is in fact also rejecting the original organization...

you don't get to try to form a club in an attempt to hijack a movement...and then say that anyone who rejects your club is not part of the movement...
Did Jesus not say that the Kingdom was like a mustard seed that would grow into the largest plant. The plant bears a similarity to the seed, due to its origins, but has grown and become a plant. So to was and is the Catholic Church.
 
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it made me sad, I opened the thread hoping to learn more about the Catholic church. oh well back to my own research. you guys have any good sermons about church history I could listen to? .
In all these posts, I think you are looking for the truth. Finding that isn't looking for what is wrong with the Catholic Church as a goal, but looking at the history of the development of all the organized churches and comparing them to scripture. I think this is something we all must do, today.

The net has good authentic history, and some very distorted views. In order to use information it has, you need to look at the source to see if they report with a bias, but the net has information that would take years and lots of money to search out if we didn't have it. There is the very same information on it that we used to have to find scattered over the world in our libraries. The dead sea scrolls has given man a peek into things that were hidden by years separating us from that time that is invaluable. I just found out that of the 812 scrolls found, the bulk used the Hebrew language, when it was thought before that by the time of Christ they weren't using Hebrew, especially classical Hebrew. That language is unique and says a lot about their thinking.

The OP said that the Catholic church started in 325, and of course that is making some blanket assumptions. But the reports we have about what went on at the Nicene Council at that time tell LOTS about the thinking that was done in the church up to that time. After that council, there were often gatherings of leaders of the organized church to make decisions about what they were to teach and we can follow many of the reports of what was decided. These things tell us what was decided by what scripture says and what was decided by what men added to scripture.

You will find that a leading desire of man from the last rebellion of the Jews against Rome so most Jewish Christians were killed, was between the Jew/gentile jealousy and almost hatred, not by scripture. Oh, dear!! I am exaggerating to make a point!! But Constantine put it like this: if it is Jewish, we must get rid of it. We still find this in our churches, today.
 
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Cult groups always get mad when they face a real christian who knows the Word of God. The Bible is to be taught not to cause conflict or arguments. I've known for many years that Roman Catholic Church is wicked. They pray to Mary like she is God. Mary was not God, she was someone that God chose to fulfill the plan he had for her life. They also worship the Pope. That's idol worship. God never told us to worship Mary and the Pope. Duetoronomy 6:4-5 Hear o Israel the Lord are God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. Satan hates to be exposed. He wants the body of Christ to be quiet. I refuse to be silent. People are on their way to hell, unless they repent and come to Jesus. I'm talking about the real Jesus. Not this strange Jesus that the cult groups are talking about. Acts 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. Romans 5:8 while we were still sinners Christ died for us. Jesus is our high priest we confessour sins to him not to sisome wicked catholic priest! The Pope claims to be sinless? That's blasphemous. God. Is the sinless one. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God Romans 3:23 All these scriptures I've quoted came from the New King James Version. The King James Version is one of the most accurate Bibles ever written. Its not like these paraphrased Bibles that change what God said.Step up aand preach the gospel, reach lost souls. That is very pleasing to God.God wants us to preach the gospel and bring people into the kingdom of God. Remember its God that saves people. You're just the vessel he wants to use. Preacha24-7