What can we learn from the life/story of Job?
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justsomeone123, the thread is about Job. Do you have anything of value to offer about that book and what we can learn from it? What you are offering is off topic.
Everyone knows Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings. However, Job offers much for Christians to learn from. If you do not agree with that assessment, then just say so and offer why not.
Stay on topic of the thread please.
Everyone knows Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings. However, Job offers much for Christians to learn from. If you do not agree with that assessment, then just say so and offer why not.
Stay on topic of the thread please.
“If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.For whoever would save his life[a] will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.26 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?
true,
And iyov(job) needs help.
true,
And iyov(job) needs help.
Your argumentative stance is showing in your posts. You either cannot read, understand the OP or you just want to troll this thread. Either way, I'm not going to assist you.
Yes, we are on a Christian website and there are categorizes underneath the main and withing those categories there are as well thread TOPICS. I am done with you. You are only desiring an argument, which you will not get from me.
Yes, we are on a Christian website and there are categorizes underneath the main and withing those categories there are as well thread TOPICS. I am done with you. You are only desiring an argument, which you will not get from me.
so first you don't know what I desire second if you thought I was arguing why would you message me over and over again....which means you were trying to argue and third you are not getting the bigger picture...Jesus came to earth and fulfilled the law and the prophets he came to teach us by example because we are too dumb and listen to religious leaders instead of God so here comes Jesus and instead of you learning THE way you are going the wrong way
We serve the same Lord, let us so be in that Lord we serve. Job was in the realm of building up something that was wrong. He was building up himself in his perfection, uprightness, and integrity. He thought that he was absolutely right. He was proud of what he had built up, and he trusted in that and glorified himself in that. That was his robe to cover his entire being, and that was his crown to be his glory.
Actually, Job was wrong. God in His eternal economy has no desire to build up these things. Rather, He considers all these things as frustrations and intends to strip them away from us, consuming them bit by bit. When everything is stripped away, then you will see God, and He will attract you to receive Him. Then you will have God's nature, life, element, essence, and even His being. This will cause a metabolic change within you to transform you from the present form of your human being to another form, the form of the divine being. As a result of this transformation, you will be a person reflecting God, that is, expressing Him and dispensing Him to others.
This was God's intention with Job, and this is His intention with us today experientially. Now you and God may be in two different realms. But God wants to transfer you from your present realm into His realm, not only to make you one with Him but even to make you a part of Him.
Suppose someone had tried to talk to Job about all these things. If someone had done this, Job might have said, "What are you talking about? I have learned a lot about God from my forefathers, and I have been paying attention to what I have learned. Yet you say that I am in the wrong realm and that God intends to build up something of Himself in me. You speak to me about incarnation, regeneration, and transformation, but I do not know what any of these things mean." Job simply did not have the capacity to receive such a revelation. He did not have these terms in his spiritual dictionary.
In principle, the situation is the same with many Christians today. The divine revelation has been given, it has been written, and it has been interpreted. Nevertheless, many believers have no understanding of the economy of God or of the divine dispensing according to the divine economy. They may think that being a Christian is simply a matter of believing that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is our Savior, who shed His blood for our sins and who has saved us through His death; that the Holy Spirit is now with us to help us to behave ourselves well and to do good that God may be glorified; and that we will go to heaven when we die. Those who hold this concept of the Christian life may not realize that being a Christian also involves sanctification, transformation, conformation, the divine dispensing of the divine economy, and the New Jerusalem as the enlargement of the processed and consummated Triune God.
If you want to teach them about these matters, you must do so in a very gradual way, beginning with the most elementary things.
(Respecting others and genteelness is the gentleness and respect Christ had in His character that we are to experientially live out thru righteousness in our life naturally as a part of ourselves toward one another).
Actually, Job was wrong. God in His eternal economy has no desire to build up these things. Rather, He considers all these things as frustrations and intends to strip them away from us, consuming them bit by bit. When everything is stripped away, then you will see God, and He will attract you to receive Him. Then you will have God's nature, life, element, essence, and even His being. This will cause a metabolic change within you to transform you from the present form of your human being to another form, the form of the divine being. As a result of this transformation, you will be a person reflecting God, that is, expressing Him and dispensing Him to others.
This was God's intention with Job, and this is His intention with us today experientially. Now you and God may be in two different realms. But God wants to transfer you from your present realm into His realm, not only to make you one with Him but even to make you a part of Him.
Suppose someone had tried to talk to Job about all these things. If someone had done this, Job might have said, "What are you talking about? I have learned a lot about God from my forefathers, and I have been paying attention to what I have learned. Yet you say that I am in the wrong realm and that God intends to build up something of Himself in me. You speak to me about incarnation, regeneration, and transformation, but I do not know what any of these things mean." Job simply did not have the capacity to receive such a revelation. He did not have these terms in his spiritual dictionary.
In principle, the situation is the same with many Christians today. The divine revelation has been given, it has been written, and it has been interpreted. Nevertheless, many believers have no understanding of the economy of God or of the divine dispensing according to the divine economy. They may think that being a Christian is simply a matter of believing that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is our Savior, who shed His blood for our sins and who has saved us through His death; that the Holy Spirit is now with us to help us to behave ourselves well and to do good that God may be glorified; and that we will go to heaven when we die. Those who hold this concept of the Christian life may not realize that being a Christian also involves sanctification, transformation, conformation, the divine dispensing of the divine economy, and the New Jerusalem as the enlargement of the processed and consummated Triune God.
If you want to teach them about these matters, you must do so in a very gradual way, beginning with the most elementary things.
(Respecting others and genteelness is the gentleness and respect Christ had in His character that we are to experientially live out thru righteousness in our life naturally as a part of ourselves toward one another).
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If you want to teach them about these matters, you must do so in a very gradual way, beginning with the most elementary things.
(Respecting others and genteelness is the gentleness and respect Christ had in His character that we are to experientially live out thru righteousness in our life naturally as a part of ourselves toward one another).[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
define respect......define serve.......
(Respecting others and genteelness is the gentleness and respect Christ had in His character that we are to experientially live out thru righteousness in our life naturally as a part of ourselves toward one another).[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
define respect......define serve.......