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It looks like he was giving some talking points on the below scripture...sometimes things are not what they appear or are made out to be....
Matthew 20:28 (NASB)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."
Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead
IMO this guy is a joke. He teaches that serving GOD dishonors him because GOD wants to serve us. Not kidding. He turns grace on its head.
Matthew 20:28 (NASB)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many."
Ah, this is a good thread. So much flying through my mind right now.God told them to go take the land He was giving them. They sent out spies to see if the land was good. It has seemed to me that their problem began there. Of course it was good land! Why would they need to send spies in the first place? It was fear and mistrust.
Two of the men came back very excited about just how good it was. They saw the giants just like the rest of the spies, but they trusted God for victory over them. All the rest of them didn't, so they refused to enter.
This mistrust of God and what He was able to do is what made God swear they would never enter the blessing and rest He wanted to grace them with.
It's so sad. I see the Spirit of the words, of the story. And I'd like to say I have been like those two spies but I really haven't. I strove for so long to get rid of all the giants in the land, refusing to enter His rest, fearful of them. All the giants I kept seeing were...pride, selfishness, unloving thoughts, murderous rage inside the land. I strove and strove to get rid of the giants but I never could. And it breaks my heart to see others struggling in this same manner, exhausting themselves, falling into deep depressions, becoming so discouraged trying to help God bring about the child who is to receive the blessing just as Abraham did. He started out well, and he ended well, but he got a bit hung up in the middle there with his striving to help God bring the child who would receive the blessing.
And even now, I know some cant hear or see the Spirit of the words and will still struggle and strive to keep trying to bring about this child who is to receive the blessing.
And it is all tied up in a fear that sending away the child of our own efforts will be a bad and scary thing. We have come to love the child of our own effort and badly want HIM to be the one who receives the blessing and the inheritance. What man doesn't love his own flesh? And what man would willingly pick up his cross to follow and agree that he had to send away and crucify this child, himSELF, without first striving to find a way to save him?
We have to become convinced that there IS nothing worth saving there before we will give up.
It's all so stupendously huge and too amazing for words and heartbreaking to see others struggling and striving with it, just as I did for so long.
I was so fearful to cease all striving. Had I known the blessing that was to be mine by agreeing to my death, I would have stopped immediately, but fear kept me from entering. It kept me from discovering how light and easy my Lord's yoke is.
It's just heartbreaking to see others kicking around in their own blood, so desperately needing rest, but unable to help them to that rest. We must seem like senseless beasts to Him. Like animals with our feet caught in a trap, struggling and shrieking and striving to free ourselves when if we would just stop it, He could free our legs in an instant.
I maybe didn't take a long enough break from here because I am sobbing again at this heartbreak.
Two of the men came back very excited about just how good it was. They saw the giants just like the rest of the spies, but they trusted God for victory over them. All the rest of them didn't, so they refused to enter.
This mistrust of God and what He was able to do is what made God swear they would never enter the blessing and rest He wanted to grace them with.
It's so sad. I see the Spirit of the words, of the story. And I'd like to say I have been like those two spies but I really haven't. I strove for so long to get rid of all the giants in the land, refusing to enter His rest, fearful of them. All the giants I kept seeing were...pride, selfishness, unloving thoughts, murderous rage inside the land. I strove and strove to get rid of the giants but I never could. And it breaks my heart to see others struggling in this same manner, exhausting themselves, falling into deep depressions, becoming so discouraged trying to help God bring about the child who is to receive the blessing just as Abraham did. He started out well, and he ended well, but he got a bit hung up in the middle there with his striving to help God bring the child who would receive the blessing.
And even now, I know some cant hear or see the Spirit of the words and will still struggle and strive to keep trying to bring about this child who is to receive the blessing.
And it is all tied up in a fear that sending away the child of our own efforts will be a bad and scary thing. We have come to love the child of our own effort and badly want HIM to be the one who receives the blessing and the inheritance. What man doesn't love his own flesh? And what man would willingly pick up his cross to follow and agree that he had to send away and crucify this child, himSELF, without first striving to find a way to save him?
We have to become convinced that there IS nothing worth saving there before we will give up.
It's all so stupendously huge and too amazing for words and heartbreaking to see others struggling and striving with it, just as I did for so long.
I was so fearful to cease all striving. Had I known the blessing that was to be mine by agreeing to my death, I would have stopped immediately, but fear kept me from entering. It kept me from discovering how light and easy my Lord's yoke is.
It's just heartbreaking to see others kicking around in their own blood, so desperately needing rest, but unable to help them to that rest. We must seem like senseless beasts to Him. Like animals with our feet caught in a trap, struggling and shrieking and striving to free ourselves when if we would just stop it, He could free our legs in an instant.
I maybe didn't take a long enough break from here because I am sobbing again at this heartbreak.
Faith pleases GOD.
A person can be laying down and resting their body and be terribly woried about something.
Entering into HIS rest means that you are totally trusting GOD and not worrying because you know that GOD Is almighty he loves you and If GOD Is for you no one can be against you.
So Its about believing GOD and not being fleshy minded,but being spiritually minded.
A person can be laying down and resting their body and be terribly woried about something.
Entering into HIS rest means that you are totally trusting GOD and not worrying because you know that GOD Is almighty he loves you and If GOD Is for you no one can be against you.
So Its about believing GOD and not being fleshy minded,but being spiritually minded.
Entering Gods rest
When you do a job, at the right time in the right way is simple. But it takes time and patience to get there.
For most their relationships with their father and mother have made them insecure, they do not trust anyone intimately.
If you have not come to this place in yourself, yes rest is hard. The emotional reality for many is their hearts are far from this reality, and boundaries and barriers form in our life generate worries to guarantee we are acceptable.
For me saying I loved my prospective wife was like dying to myself, knowing I would be rebuffed. It was an odd contradiction to admit my love mattered more than the response, because it was being true to who I was.
So resting in Christ is being vulnerable and trusting, knowing that He holds us in our hands. It is not doing less, it just changes the why we do things out of the overflow of our hearts rather than the poverty of our need.
I have seen people minister out of duty, and it is like a shrivelled branch trying to give life to another shrivelled branch which is just not going to work.
When you do a job, at the right time in the right way is simple. But it takes time and patience to get there.
For most their relationships with their father and mother have made them insecure, they do not trust anyone intimately.
If you have not come to this place in yourself, yes rest is hard. The emotional reality for many is their hearts are far from this reality, and boundaries and barriers form in our life generate worries to guarantee we are acceptable.
For me saying I loved my prospective wife was like dying to myself, knowing I would be rebuffed. It was an odd contradiction to admit my love mattered more than the response, because it was being true to who I was.
So resting in Christ is being vulnerable and trusting, knowing that He holds us in our hands. It is not doing less, it just changes the why we do things out of the overflow of our hearts rather than the poverty of our need.
I have seen people minister out of duty, and it is like a shrivelled branch trying to give life to another shrivelled branch which is just not going to work.
Hebrews 10:5-10 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME;
[SUP]6 [/SUP] IN WHOLE BURNT OFFERINGS AND sacrifices FOR SIN YOU HAVE TAKEN NO PLEASURE.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] "THEN I SAID, 'BEHOLD, I HAVE COME (IN THE SCROLL OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME) TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.'"
[SUP]8 [/SUP] After saying above, "SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS AND WHOLE BURNT OFFERINGS AND sacrifices FOR SIN YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, NOR HAVE YOU TAKEN PLEASURE in them" (which are offered according to the Law),
[SUP]9 [/SUP] then He said, "BEHOLD, I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL." He takes away the first in order to establish the second.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
We rest in Jesus's finished work on our behalf. His life in and through us manifests in good works as we see Him - we become like Him. An active Holy Spirit led lifestyle as the Lord works His works in and through us.
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME;
[SUP]6 [/SUP] IN WHOLE BURNT OFFERINGS AND sacrifices FOR SIN YOU HAVE TAKEN NO PLEASURE.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] "THEN I SAID, 'BEHOLD, I HAVE COME (IN THE SCROLL OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME) TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.'"
[SUP]8 [/SUP] After saying above, "SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS AND WHOLE BURNT OFFERINGS AND sacrifices FOR SIN YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, NOR HAVE YOU TAKEN PLEASURE in them" (which are offered according to the Law),
[SUP]9 [/SUP] then He said, "BEHOLD, I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL." He takes away the first in order to establish the second.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
We rest in Jesus's finished work on our behalf. His life in and through us manifests in good works as we see Him - we become like Him. An active Holy Spirit led lifestyle as the Lord works His works in and through us.
2 Corinthians 3:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
On a lighter note, today I'm so sick with a germ warfare type cold
, and all I can do is rest in God.
When you have no strength to do anything, and hardly any strength to even pray, it is so easy to do nothing but to rest in him. Actually feels quite good to do this. Yet, it still requires faith, that he is caring for me, and there is nothing to worry about.
, and all I can do is rest in God. When you have no strength to do anything, and hardly any strength to even pray, it is so easy to do nothing but to rest in him. Actually feels quite good to do this. Yet, it still requires faith, that he is caring for me, and there is nothing to worry about.
John 15:4-5
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
The fruit of abiding in Christ is our Rest. This fruit is the cause of all our good work and the workmanship of Christ in us.
Galatians 5:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
These fruit are the requirement of the law. They are also the Provision of Christ by His Grace and Love.
That is rest. Relying on the provision and Grace of Christ and not our own effort of trying to 'grow' these fruit ourselves.
These fruit, the result of abiding in Christ, will be the cause of our work. We are His Workmanship now.
Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Rest is a gift. By Grace through Faith. By the work of Christ.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
The fruit of abiding in Christ is our Rest. This fruit is the cause of all our good work and the workmanship of Christ in us.
Galatians 5:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
These fruit are the requirement of the law. They are also the Provision of Christ by His Grace and Love.
That is rest. Relying on the provision and Grace of Christ and not our own effort of trying to 'grow' these fruit ourselves.
These fruit, the result of abiding in Christ, will be the cause of our work. We are His Workmanship now.
Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Rest is a gift. By Grace through Faith. By the work of Christ.